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post Nov 26 2014, 11:19
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QUOTE(kumosu @ Nov 26 2014, 16:13) *

High level mages found out that having 1 cloth mix in with other phase suits gave much better result against strong mobs due to bonus counter-resist, but at your level you should keep full phase Surtr when going for the kills.

Alright, guess I'll give some advice about grinding proficiency:
1. For equip profs, go and fight the Trio and Tree in arena. Because Yggdra can heal, you can go on indefinitely without any ponies to disrupt (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif). Set up Spellspam and a good night sleep recommended. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Oh, do train your Staff this way for Staff prof, mage need it.
2. For Supportive, having at least 1 IA is the easiest way, otherwise spam cure.
3. For Deprecating, simply go Normal fest, leave one mob alive and spam Weaken, Slow until out of mana. Note that you don't have to wait for full cycle Depr spells, just mix Defend in the missing part of combo and you're set.
4. Now, Elemental, Divine and Forbidden are not easy to train. I recommend wear 1H battlecasters + cloth or Shade with high evade/resist, then go Hellfest to spam spells while staying alive as long as possible, having IAs would be helpful here.


Well thanks for the advice, I just have no idea what IAs is, yep, my brain can't process it, stupid brain, sad girl here (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I get the rest of the things, except for elemental. What's with the battlecaster? Is it for the mana conservation or the magic accuracy? Fiery Blast costs like 6 Mana, yeah I don't think I need mana conservation XD


QUOTE(Dan31 @ Nov 26 2014, 16:19) *

Maybe make the switch at lvl 310 for the 0-cooldown Imperil?


Hey might as well start now or at lvl 310, I can't even get to Imperil cause my deprecating prof. are so little, like 1.54, I just started getting prof. for it. Besides, I am surviving even better as a mage than a melee, even if I have void damage on my melees. I read up on the Imperil thing, it looks pretty cool, though does it only target one enemy at a time? Then that's gonna take like a lot of mana to get them all.
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post Nov 26 2014, 11:23
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 26 2014, 17:10) *

50 base prof is needed, just tested a week ago: this means that your prof without elementalist pieces has to be 50. as for shoes, well, since MDB/EDB will scale more i guess at higher levels you may replace them (especially if they have a low damage) with an elementalist piece with quite high prof, but for now keep surtr ones. as for staff (even if you didn't ask for (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ) consider that a destruction one may come quite handy too. and also, as someone other before me said, waiting until 0-cooldown imperil is the best choice


I don't have destruction staff, first I thought it would be overpowered, but then I got a surtr staff instead, cause fire mage. I don't see how destruction is better than surtr. Cause if it is, I am in big trouble cause I ran out of credits to buy another one. Seriously though, holy_demon took like 700k credits just for two IW runs T_T
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post Nov 26 2014, 11:46
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QUOTE(Twilight Sparkle1998 @ Nov 26 2014, 10:19) *

Well thanks for the advice, I just have no idea what IAs is, yep, my brain can't process it, stupid brain, sad girl here (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I get the rest of the things, except for elemental. What's with the battlecaster? Is it for the mana conservation or the magic accuracy? Fiery Blast costs like 6 Mana, yeah I don't think I need mana conservation XD

Hey might as well start now or at lvl 310, I can't even get to Imperil cause my deprecating prof. are so little, like 1.54, I just started getting prof. for it. Besides, I am surviving even better as a mage than a melee, even if I have void damage on my melees. I read up on the Imperil thing, it looks pretty cool, though does it only target one enemy at a time? Then that's gonna take like a lot of mana to get them all.

IA = Innate Arcana hath perk.

At lvl 310, with Faster Imperil maxed, you can hit up to 3 targets with Imperil, with a 0-cooldown. And elemental mages need that.

I'm surprised when you say you survive more easily as a mage than a fighter.

QUOTE(Twilight Sparkle1998 @ Nov 26 2014, 10:23) *

I don't have destruction staff, first I thought it would be overpowered, but then I got a surtr staff instead, cause fire mage. I don't see how destruction is better than surtr. Cause if it is, I am in big trouble cause I ran out of credits to buy another one. Seriously though, holy_demon took like 700k credits just for two IW runs T_T

Is it a Fiery staff of Surtr at least?

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post Nov 26 2014, 11:57
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QUOTE(Dan31 @ Nov 26 2014, 17:46) *

IA = Innate Arcana hath perk.

At lvl 310, with Faster Imperil maxed, you can hit up to 3 targets with Imperil, with a 0-cooldown. And elemental mages need that.

I'm surprised when you say you survive more easily as a mage than a fighter.
Is it a Fiery staff of Surtr at least?


Understood but yeah, I just do better as a mage, And no. It is not a Fiery staff of Surtr, it's an Arctic staff of Surtr.
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post Nov 26 2014, 12:13
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QUOTE(Twilight Sparkle1998 @ Nov 26 2014, 10:19) *

Well thanks for the advice, I just have no idea what IAs is

IA = Innate Arcana: it's a perk that allows you to automatically re-cast a spell under certain conditions. further infos here

QUOTE(Twilight Sparkle1998 @ Nov 26 2014, 10:19) *

What's with the battlecaster? Is it for the mana conservation or the magic accuracy?

i guess it's more for mana conservation, but consider that the chance to raise prof slows by approaching the cap and is related to the cost of the spell used: basically, while profs are still low ( = it's somehow easier to raise them) you may want to spare a bit of mana to have more chances to cast them, and while they become to grow ( = it becomes harder to raise them) you may want to leave battlecaster gears and augment a bit the ITR of your gears to speed up the process. note that this is only needed for profs that may come useful to you yet you don't use too much (ie 2H if you're 1H user but plan to go niten or forbidden spells if you're a melee), while the others will catch you up little by little. further infos here and here, if needed

QUOTE(Twilight Sparkle1998 @ Nov 26 2014, 10:19) *

sad girl here (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

nice news

(IMG:[cs403618.vk.me] http://cs403618.vk.me/v403618257/1d93/S_k_SKaLnNg.jpg)

are you interested in entering the 'miss hentaiverse' contest? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[edit]: now that i think better about it, that 1998 may be your birth year, so maybe within further two years (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

QUOTE(Twilight Sparkle1998 @ Nov 26 2014, 10:57) *

It is not a Fiery staff of Surtr, it's an Arctic staff of Surtr.

not good since the most important element would be cold. you should aim for a matching fiery redwood staff of surtr or fiery redwood of destruction for best results. oak don't have useful suffixes, maybe ebony if you manage to find them...

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post Nov 26 2014, 12:20
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 26 2014, 18:13) *

while the others will catch you up little by little. further infos here and here, if needed

are you interested in entering the 'miss hentaiverse' contest? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[edit]: now that i think better about it, that 1998 may be your birth year, so maybe within further two years (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
not good. you should aim for a fiery redwood staff os surtr or fiery redwood of destruction for best results


Nice links, I got a long way to go. It may be my birth year, it may be my lucky number, it may be the lottery number, it may also be my birthday, nobody knows, it's a mystery. Oooh~ Spooky~ Yeah I just put in an order for a fiery redwood of destruction. From 1M to 70k just to get mage gear, my luck ran out. T_T Was gonna host a lottery too.
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post Nov 26 2014, 13:07
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QUOTE(Twilight Sparkle1998 @ Nov 26 2014, 11:20) *

It may be my birth year, it may be my lucky number, it may be the lottery number, it may also be my birthday, nobody knows, it's a mystery. Oooh~ Spooky~

interesting i'd say. especially because my chances to ever see a 'miss hentaiverse' are still up :3
but i guess you wrote it wrong in your sig, unless you have 816 years (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

QUOTE(Twilight Sparkle1998 @ Nov 26 2014, 11:20) *

Yeah I just put in an order for a fiery redwood of destruction.

was just going to point it out

QUOTE(Twilight Sparkle1998 @ Nov 26 2014, 11:20) *

From 1M to 70k just to get mage gear, my luck ran out. T_T Was gonna host a lottery too.

just wondering, may i see your pants and shoes? not a perverted this time, it only happens that i have a couple of spare EMax ones if you need them (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Nov 26 2014, 13:09
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You better not say its your birthday cause you will get banned for two years.


You can also train your spells efficiently by doing IWTBTH item world on low quality crude cotton items. The monsters will have high HP but low damage. Then you just escape before finishing the IW.
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post Nov 26 2014, 13:17
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Nov 26 2014, 12:09) *

You better not say its your birthday cause you will get banned for two years.
You can also train your spells efficiently by doing IWTBTH item world on low quality crude cotton items. The monsters will have high HP but low damage. Then you just escape before finishing the IW.

in fact, she said that she once won the lottery with that number and now it's her lucky number (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

however i didn't know this thing, only 18+ allowed here? i may be very dumb but i thought it only applied to galleries and not the forum...
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post Nov 26 2014, 13:22
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 26 2014, 12:17) *

in fact, she said that she once won the lottery with that number and now it's her lucky number (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

however i didn't know this thing, only 18+ allowed here? i may be very dumb but i thought it only applied to galleries and not the forum...

From the Registration Terms & Use:
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post Nov 26 2014, 13:30
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 26 2014, 19:17) *

in fact, she said that she once won the lottery with that number and now it's her lucky number (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

however i didn't know this thing, only 18+ allowed here? i may be very dumb but i thought it only applied to galleries and not the forum...



I did won a lottery with that number, it was like a $100, yeah I only tried the lottery once to see if I could win. Sadly, that $100 was used up in a day. yeah I am not good in saving money, I spent money mostly on shopping! Woohoo! Plus, I read the ToS before.

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 26 2014, 19:07) *

interesting i'd say. especially because my chances to ever see a 'miss hentaiverse' are still up :3
but i guess you wrote it wrong in your sig, unless you have 816 years (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


Really? Aww and I was trying my best to make a pun for it, oh well, might as well remove it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Oops! I think I went a little off-topic here. This is the place for 'Asking Experts' not 'Chit-Chat'. Anyway, I think I have enough information for being a mage. Thanks guys! This girl loves you all!

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post Nov 26 2014, 14:04
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Sharing some lists I just compiled. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

The lists consist of wind staves, but their stats apply to other elementals.

Elemental MDB Staff (sorted by MDB)
Minimum Requirements
    1) MDB >= 43 and EDB >= 12
    2) MDB < 43, but MDB + EDB ~ 55
    3) EDB < 12, but MDB + EDB ~ 55
Magnificent Tempestuous Ebony Staff of DestructionMagnificent Tempestuous Willow Staff of DestructionMagnificent Tempestuous Redwood Staff of DestructionElemental EDB Staff (sorted by EDB)
Minimum Requirements
    1) MDB >= 25 and EDB >= 28
    2) MDB < 25, but MDB + EDB ~ 53
    3) EDB < 28, but MDB + EDB ~ 53
Magnificent Tempestuous Ebony Staff of Freyr
    None of them satisfy the minimum requirements.
Magnificent Tempestuous Redwood Staff of FreyrProficiency Staff (sorted by Proficiency)
Magnificent Tempestuous Redwood Staff of the Elementalist
    Not interested in Mag-quality prof staves.
Magnificent Tempestuous Ebony Staff of the Elementalist
    Not interested in Mag-quality prof staves.


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post Nov 26 2014, 14:06
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QUOTE(djackallstar @ Nov 26 2014, 20:04) *

Sharing some lists I just compiled. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


Well it sure looks nice, but I don't really need it anymore. Plus I think you got it wrong. I am a fire mage, not a wind mage.
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post Nov 26 2014, 14:16
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QUOTE(Twilight Sparkle1998 @ Nov 26 2014, 13:06) *

Well it sure looks nice, but I don't really need it anymore. Plus I think you got it wrong. I am a fire mage, not a wind mage.

Wind is better than Fire though. Actually, any element is better than Fire. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Nov 26 2014, 14:22
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QUOTE(Dan31 @ Nov 26 2014, 20:16) *

Wind is better than Fire though. Actually, any element is better than Fire. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)


Nah, I just wanna get rid of the attack damage. It only has a damage reduction of 10% but still something. Besides, it's too late to build another set. I already have a full Fire set.
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post Nov 26 2014, 14:26
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QUOTE(Dan31 @ Nov 26 2014, 12:22) *

From the Registration Terms & Use:

uh. well, next forum i'll read them better, promised. for now i'd better keep my age a mystery to everyone (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

QUOTE(Twilight Sparkle1998 @ Nov 26 2014, 12:30) *

Oops! I think I went a little off-topic here. This is the place for 'Asking Experts' not 'Chit-Chat'. Anyway, I think I have enough information for being a mage. Thanks guys! This girl loves you all!

it's always a good time to go off-topic (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif)

QUOTE(Twilight Sparkle1998 @ Nov 26 2014, 13:06) *

Well it sure looks nice, but I don't really need it anymore. Plus I think you got it wrong. I am a fire mage, not a wind mage.

my impression is that he compiles them less or more randomly. sometimes they are related to the topic, sometimes not

QUOTE(Dan31 @ Nov 26 2014, 13:16) *

Wind is better than Fire though. Actually, any element is better than Fire. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

yup. especially on the staff front, i'd say. am i wrong?

QUOTE(Twilight Sparkle1998 @ Nov 26 2014, 13:22) *

Nah, I just wanna get rid of the attack damage. It only has a damage reduction of 10% but still something. Besides, it's too late to build another set. I already have a full Fire set.

yes, but you're literally forced to use willow staffs, and market isn't exactly so flexible. plus, other elements have their advantages too: wind raises the chance that a mob misses hits by 10%, and cold lowers the speed by 10%. fire is more a cure than a prevention. but obviously, if you find it working, who am i to make you change your mind? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Nov 26 2014, 14:31
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 26 2014, 20:26) *

yup. especially on the staff front, i'd say. am i wrong?
yes, but you're literally forced to use willow staffs, and market isn't exactly so flexible. plus, other elements have their advantages too: wind raises the chance that a mob misses hits by 10%, and cold lowers the speed by 10%. fire is more a cure than a prevention...


Oh darn it, how am I supposed to change now? I already spent like 500k on the Fire set, where am I supposed to get more credits? If it's grinding, it's gonna take forever. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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QUOTE(Twilight Sparkle1998 @ Nov 26 2014, 13:31) *

Oh darn it, how am I supposed to change now? I already spent like 500k on the Fire set, where am I supposed to get more credits? If it's grinding, it's gonna take forever. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

well, just to start you should consider this table of status. also, you're still under lv200, so you can take a free item from FS, just to begin with. what are your best ones atm?

[edit]: for the sake of your wallet, avoid holy and dark in a first moment. you can still mix one heimdall piece for the cure bonus if you really need, but that's it for now

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post Nov 26 2014, 14:43
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 26 2014, 21:26) *

uh. well, next forum i'll read them better, promised. for now i'd better keep my age a mystery to everyone (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

Sigh, I though that's her birthyear too, now I feel like the youngest one again (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) .
QUOTE(Dan31 @ Nov 26 2014, 21:16) *

Wind is better than Fire though. Actually, any element is better than Fire. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

Cool, then everyone should stop bidding for fire sets, I have enough competitors already. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 26 2014, 20:40) *

well, just to start you should consider this table of status. also, you're still under lv200, so you can take a free item from FS, just to begin with. what are your best ones atm?


What do you mean my best ones? No seriously, what do you mean by that?
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