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Nov 13 2014, 14:47
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boulay
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QUOTE(derp-z2 @ Nov 13 2014, 11:10)  Dear experts is this table dynamic for each player if not can some kind soul please update the wiki page with complete table list for each training section ability or is ther an HV script that can genrate this for you . Thanks
Dunno what you mean by that but I just did it with excel using the wiki's formula. The costs are the same for everyone ^^'
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Nov 13 2014, 15:23
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colosseum_guy
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Question about 1H stat distribution: Why doesn't the wiki advice suggests a bit more DEX for 1H? I thought more DEX and less AGI looks more reasonable for 1H....
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Nov 13 2014, 15:31
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tetron
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Nov 13 2014, 17:59)  Tenb doesn't give a shit about what you MM to other people. Sending to banned users is because they can't ever see those MM. It has more to do with not disturbing other people (unless you're trolling) and nothing with avoiding bans
Oh, now I get it. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Okay, then My prediction: A new Hath Perk tree soon™ Level 1 (2500 hath): Increases the Inventory limit by 250. Level 2 (5000 hath): Increases the Inventory limit by 500. Level 3 (10000 hath): Increases the Inventory limit by 1000. And whatever, so no one is currently selling Gold Star? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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Nov 13 2014, 16:13
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Dan31
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QUOTE(colosseum_guy @ Nov 13 2014, 14:23)  Question about 1H stat distribution: Why doesn't the wiki advice suggests a bit more DEX for 1H? I thought more DEX and less AGI looks more reasonable for 1H....
Where on the wiki?
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Nov 13 2014, 16:58
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Colman
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QUOTE(tetron @ Nov 13 2014, 21:31)  Oh, now I get it. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Okay, then My prediction: A new Hath Perk tree soon™ Level 1 (2500 hath): Increases the Inventory limit by 250. Level 2 (5000 hath): Increases the Inventory limit by 500. Level 3 (10000 hath): Increases the Inventory limit by 1000. And whatever, so no one is currently selling Gold Star? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) It won't happen, as it affect the database structure.
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Nov 13 2014, 17:23
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colosseum_guy
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Nov 13 2014, 17:27
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kumosu
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QUOTE(tetron @ Nov 13 2014, 22:31)  Oh, now I get it. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Okay, then My prediction: A new Hath Perk tree soon™ Level 1 (2500 hath): Increases the Inventory limit by 250. Level 2 (5000 hath): Increases the Inventory limit by 500. Level 3 (10000 hath): Increases the Inventory limit by 1000. The 1000 limit that we have simply stops equip from dropping, a certain hero found out the true limit (5k) a while ago. He'll forever be remembered. Amen. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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Nov 13 2014, 17:36
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stonewarrior
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QUOTE(something @ Nov 13 2014, 16:39)  you can't increase the targets, but you can use better blind to make the duration longer(200 turns) and have the opponent miss more(30%? too lazy to check)
Thanks.
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Nov 13 2014, 17:39
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Hoheneim
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Nov 13 2014, 13:29)  Tenb doesn't give a shit about what you MM to other people. Sending to banned users is because they can't ever see those MM. It has more to do with not disturbing other people (unless you're trolling) and nothing with avoiding bans
Let's just say that if people start to exploit this en masse then Tenboro might start looking into this matter. I, for one, see it as an abuse and would punish it.
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Nov 13 2014, 17:42
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malkatmp
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QUOTE(Hoheneim @ Nov 13 2014, 17:39)  Let's just say that if people start to exploit this en masse then Tenboro might start looking into this matter.
I, for one, see it as an abuse and would punish it.
or one day, 10B will just ninja patch it in a way that you can't recover MM from banned users. This post has been edited by malkatmp: Nov 13 2014, 19:12
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Nov 13 2014, 18:09
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(tetron @ Nov 13 2014, 14:31)  And whatever, so no one is currently selling Gold Star? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) there was the twilight samurai iirc. otherwise you can always open a wtb or ask g, he bought a catgirl status not so much ago (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) QUOTE(colosseum_guy @ Nov 13 2014, 16:23)  every now and then wiki is obsolete. i'd say to raise DEX a bit more than STR too
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Nov 13 2014, 19:33
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nec1986
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Can soneone check if this system is ok for estimation?
So our main goal is good ratio between attack and defense. We have log in defense which means higher values gives huge reduction. Small example is 40 and 60 mitg. The difference in value is only 20, but ratio is 1.5. Anothet 20 between 60 and 80 gives 2 ratio instead 1.5 (so we have increase). Another one is damage. This time we have opposite, because any equal number increase d give us smaller % increase.
F.e. 1 set gives us 2000 attack, 50% protection (i mean all factors like evade, block and finally mitg with specific gives us half reduction). So we have something like 4k equivalent. Set 2 gives us 2200 attack, but only 45% protection. So we have another 4k equivalent, but in high risk, high speed way. But something like 46% protection with same attack is better than 2k with 50%.
Could it be good enough for estimate?
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Nov 13 2014, 19:53
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Cats Lover
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IMO more or less, there's some threshold for them. If you have high enough attack power - AD for melee, MD * (1 + EDB) for mage - beyond the threshold, the priority of defense can be decreased a bit. We can say "Attack is the best defence" in this case, since dead monster can't harm you. But with low attack power, you should focus on defense to survive first. (Or lower challenge difficulty (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)) That's one of the reasons why defensive gears (plate or leather) are recommended especially for low level users. This post has been edited by Cats Lover: Nov 13 2014, 19:55
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Nov 13 2014, 20:40
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derp-z2
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QUOTE(boulay @ Nov 13 2014, 14:47)  Dunno what you mean by that but I just did it with excel using the wiki's formula. The costs are the same for everyone ^^'
Greetings Please post training abilities wiki's formula link URL. Thankyou
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Nov 13 2014, 20:43
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derp-z2
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Greetings Scremaz
question
was checking conversation
Cat girl status gold star bronze star are donation unlocking status / perks . i was not aware you can purchase them using in game currency / credits . is that possible ?
This post has been edited by derp-z2: Nov 13 2014, 20:45
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Nov 13 2014, 20:49
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boulay
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QUOTE(derp-z2 @ Nov 13 2014, 19:40)  Greetings
Please post training abilities wiki's formula link URL. Thankyou
QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 12 2014, 23:54)  you can easily do it on the fly with excel and this formula
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Nov 13 2014, 21:17
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Dan31
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QUOTE(derp-z2 @ Nov 13 2014, 19:43)  Greetings Scremaz
question
was checking conversation
Cat girl status gold star bronze star are donation unlocking status / perks . i was not aware you can purchase them using in game currency / credits . is that possible ?
You can't do it directly, but you can make a deal with a user willing to pay. This post has been edited by Dan31: Nov 13 2014, 21:17
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Nov 13 2014, 21:57
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derp-z2
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QUOTE(Dan31 @ Nov 13 2014, 21:17)  You can't do it directly, but you can make a deal with a user willing to pay.
Greetings Dan31 So its just hotwire transfer for non-US based users . that cannot directly partake in donation . understood This post has been edited by derp-z2: Nov 13 2014, 21:57
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Nov 13 2014, 22:17
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Dan31
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QUOTE(derp-z2 @ Nov 13 2014, 20:57)  Greetings Dan31
So its just hotwire transfer for non-US based users . that cannot directly partake in donation . understood
Hum, what? I said that you cannot use credits directly to pay for a gold star, but you may find someone else willing to pay bitcoin to your donation bitcoin address in exchange of your credits.
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Nov 13 2014, 23:44
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derp-z2
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QUOTE(Dan31 @ Nov 13 2014, 22:17)  Hum, what? I said that you cannot use credits directly to pay for a gold star, but you may find someone else willing to pay bitcoin to your donation bitcoin address in exchange of your credits.
My point exactly . Allow me to explain *puts on geek/nerd glasses takes a tone of dexter from dexter's laboratory* bitcoin is now a universal currency with only 3 countries in the world including USA and britain kingdom 2 of 3 to hold a value in 3 digit real currency to bitcoin unit rate. This HV is NOT like second world whose currency can be converted to real currency so the only way to deal here is either through hath or credits and only once you contribiute to the site through REAL WORLD currency donation is when you can also progress/access additional services and bonuses to the site . Therefore seeing discussion about 3rd party vendors selling this or trading this unique feature IMHO was alien to me frankly. This post has been edited by derp-z2: Nov 13 2014, 23:52
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