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post Nov 9 2014, 19:22
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Speaking of Hellfest, can elemental mages clear it without Shard, Infusion, Scroll and the Damage Perks? I mean only based on the HP/MP/SP perks and Forging? If so, then how many level of forging is suggested?
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post Nov 9 2014, 20:31
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QUOTE(tetron @ Nov 9 2014, 19:03) *

Leg radiant phase? Then I guessed right! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
BT is the best choice. There is a huuuuuge gap in clearing speed if you compare PFUDOR and BT. In general PFUDOR is much more slow of a choice if your primary goal is to farm Crystal.

hmmm?

QUOTE(holy_demon @ Nov 9 2014, 19:07) *

hellfest

prepare to chuck energy drink though (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

hmmmmm?

QUOTE(Colman @ Nov 9 2014, 19:13) *

I already do this. It is so slow.

But what about drops. is highest difficulty setting Quality boost still pure trolling and not worth it?
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post Nov 9 2014, 21:53
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Nov 10 2014, 00:01) *

hmmm?
hmmmmm?
I already do this. It is so slow.

But what about drops. is highest difficulty setting Quality boost still pure trolling and not worth it?

Let me simplify the matter a little:

PFUDOR - Produces the biggest amount of Crystal drops, but is not Mage friendly, thus it's usually slow.

BT - Produces a little less crystal then PFUDOR, but if you play Mage (Any element) in this difficulty, you'll earn far more crystals (than PFUDOR) in a very short time.

So,

PFUDOR - If you are a cheapskate like frugality and are super calculative.

BT - If you want to farm Crystals ASAP. (Mind that you'll also need tons of ED)

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post Nov 9 2014, 22:06
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I need just a few Crystals.
100-200 million of each sort should do.
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post Nov 9 2014, 22:12
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Nov 10 2014, 01:36) *

I need just a few Crystals.
100-200 million of each sort should do.

Then get some ED and start farming Crystals in BT with a mage set. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
You'll definitely reach your target faster this way (compared to PFUDOR). (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

But as I said before, ED will be burning out very quickly, so... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Nov 9 2014, 22:14
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Nov 9 2014, 21:06) *

I need just a few Crystals.
100-200 million of each sort should do.

Provided that you have Crystarium 3, hellfest should be your best bet. At your level you should be able to clear a lot of those per day and get a nice amount of crystals.
BTfest and higher are just a pain in the arse, so if you want to grind those smootly, go for hellfest. But as said above, energy drinks are a must...

Also, PFUDOR does give better drop. But it's a pain in the arse. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Nov 9 2014, 22:28
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Could someone price this for me? http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=612f540105
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post Nov 9 2014, 23:31
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How to price items? I mean some as i think average gear can cost huge amount of credits. Stats? Grade?
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post Nov 9 2014, 23:32
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QUOTE(djackallstar @ Nov 9 2014, 08:45) *
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These guides won't be useful unless you make an index for them in your sig, a separate index post linked in your sig, or a new thread altogether, since noobs can't/won't search through the ~3000 pages of this thread to find them. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

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post Nov 9 2014, 23:37
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QUOTE(RibbonsCan @ Nov 9 2014, 22:32) *

These guides won't be useful unless you make an index for them in your sig, a separate index post linked in your sig, or a new thread altogether, since noobs can't/won't search through the ~3000 pages of this thread to find them. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

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they may be useful for someone but as for now they are only words written here and there. you should really group them

QUOTE(kainord @ Nov 9 2014, 21:28) *

nice parry/DEX but horrible PA chance. personally i'm not sure i'd pay 50k for it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

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post Nov 10 2014, 01:37
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Nov 9 2014, 22:31) *

How to price items? I mean some as i think average gear can cost huge amount of credits. Stats? Grade?


Answer: Stats

There are mags with all the right stats maxed or close to that outperform legendary items. Reason is Grade/Quality is applied only based on the sum average amount of all stats on an item. Thus 2 exquisites items of the same type can be either 200k in shop or barely worth the bazaar sell price or salvage. Same reason why a mag staff is worth 10k from salvaged high grade wood or half a million in a shop.

The stats are what people are after. There as exquisite phases/power that are better than mags/ due to maxed elemental damage bonus or added damage bonus etc. Its up to the the player to check the wiki for references. Things get tricky when items are forged and such but its doable.

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post Nov 10 2014, 03:37
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Nov 10 2014, 06:31) *

How to price items? I mean some as i think average gear can cost huge amount of credits. Stats? Grade?

QUOTE(smurf123 @ Nov 10 2014, 08:37) *

Answer: Stats

There are mags with all the right stats maxed or close to that outperform legendary items. Reason is Grade/Quality is applied only based on the sum average amount of all stats on an item. Thus 2 exquisites items of the same type can be either 200k in shop or barely worth the bazaar sell price or salvage. Same reason why a mag staff is worth 10k from salvaged high grade wood or half a million in a shop.

The stats are what people are after. There as exquisite phases/power that are better than mags/ due to maxed elemental damage bonus or added damage bonus etc. Its up to the the player to check the wiki for references. Things get tricky when items are forged and such but its doable.

Add "popularity" too.
Current trend in HV0.81:
1. Holy mage
Their prefer:
Mag+ Hallowed Oak/Katalox Staff of Destruction/Heimdall
Exq+ Radiant/Charged/Frugal/Mystic Phase suits of Heimdall
2. Wind mage
Mag+ Tempestuous Willow/Redwood Staff of Destruction/Freyr
Exq+ Radiant/Charged/Frugal/Mystic Phase suits of Freyr
3. 1H Power
Mag+ Hallowed/Demonic/Ethereal Rapier of Slaughter/Nimble
Mag+ any prefix Force Shield of any suffix (M+ block)
Exq+ any prefix Power suits of Slaughter

All of the matching up here can auction for ridiculous among of dollar (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Nov 10 2014, 03:55
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QUOTE(djackallstar @ Nov 10 2014, 03:45) *

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I'll probably do any exq piece for 150k (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Though may take a day or two.

QUOTE(kainord @ Nov 10 2014, 07:28) *


Well tetron paid 160k for a similar one I think in ariahs auction.

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post Nov 10 2014, 18:11
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QUOTE(TygerTyger @ Nov 10 2014, 07:25) *

Well tetron paid 160k for a similar one I think in ariahs auction.

I'll gladly pay another 160k (or higher) for another one! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (If he's interested in selling, that is)
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post Nov 10 2014, 18:35
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Nov 9 2014, 10:55) *

What is the best setting for farming Crystals?
QUOTE(Ichy @ Nov 9 2014, 12:31) *

hmmm?
hmmmmm?
I already do this. It is so slow.
QUOTE(Ichy @ Nov 9 2014, 14:06) *

I need just a few Crystals.
100-200 million of each sort should do.

Sell your hath on the exchange and offer credits.
Buy in packs. Offer 75000 per pack.
You'll get millions of crystals quickly.

Play grindfest concurrently on the highest difficulty that you can clear without much slowdown near the end.

Having frith-level neurosis would probably help as well...

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post Nov 10 2014, 19:02
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I just noticed i don't have a good Shield.

Force Shield is way to go?

Force Shield of ____ what is best for latex leather warrior?
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post Nov 10 2014, 19:08
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Nov 11 2014, 01:02) *

I just noticed i don't have a good Shield.

Force Shield is way to go?

Force Shield of ____ what is best for latex leather warrior?

Protection/Warding/Deflection for light armor.
Protection/Warding/Dampening for heavy armor.

A high-level player's comment (Zack_CN):
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=3571418
I strongly suggest you buy a crushing one if you use Heavy or Piercing if you are Light.
Warding and protection work like shit.


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post Nov 10 2014, 19:18
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QUOTE(djackallstar @ Nov 10 2014, 18:08) *

Protection/Warding/Deflection for light armor.
Protection/Warding/Dampening for heavy armor.

A high-level player's comment (Zack_CN):
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=3571418
I strongly suggest you buy a crushing one if you use Heavy or Piercing if you are Light.
Warding and protection work like shit.


it may be not so wrong. afterall, PMI/MMI are multiplicative while piercing/crushing are additive, so you won't lose so many mitigation points...
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post Nov 10 2014, 19:26
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 10 2014, 22:48) *

it may be not so wrong. afterall, PMI/MMI are multiplicative while piercing/crushing are additive, so you won't lose so many mitigation points...

Not to mention that Forging Mitigations are also super frustrating. No matter how much you forge, you'll never get a satisfactory result because of their utter low base values! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

BTW, I have some questions (again):
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post Nov 10 2014, 19:55
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 11 2014, 02:18) *

it may be not so wrong. afterall, PMI/MMI are multiplicative while piercing/crushing are additive, so you won't lose so many mitigation points...

No, all the mitigations are multiplicative, including crushing, slashing and piercing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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