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post Oct 28 2014, 10:27
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QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Oct 28 2014, 19:25) *

I can easily play all arenas on IWTBH, that's enough for me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Main question is - 2H Heavy really noticeably worse than 2H Light?


At your level I would think so.... its dodging rather than taking everything.... counts on equipment quality as well...
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post Oct 28 2014, 10:34
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I think I found the problem with ninten.

You can clear the mob acceptably fast after you hit it with skyward sword, however it takes 10 turns to recharge another one so thats like a speed cap for ninten especially at higher rounds when there are more than 5 monsters.

It would be cool if skyward sword could be used more often or could hit all enemies like in the good old days. Why was that nerf anyways?
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post Oct 28 2014, 10:38
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QUOTE(gynew @ Oct 28 2014, 15:24) *

Hello experts,

Apart from obsoletes, of course.
Is there ANY piece of equipment with Superior quality (or lower) that could actually worth something? Or Should I just salvage/sell to bazzar all of them, without considering anything at all?

Thanks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

My lazy rules
- Salvage Avg and below.
- Bazzar Sup unless it's worth selling in the WTS forum.

Some examples of "worth selling":

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=2166783
CPC 01 Superior Phase Cap of Heimdall 25k

CPR 01 Superior Phase Robe of Heimdall 50k
CPR 02 Superior Phase Robe of Heimdall 60k

CPH 01 Superior Frugal Phase Gloves of Fenrir 25k
CPH 02 Superior Mystic Phase Gloves of Niflheim 25k
CPH 03 Superior Phase Gloves of Heimdall 25k
CPH 04 Superior Phase Gloves of Heimdall 25k
CPH 05
CPH 06 Superior Phase Gloves of Fenrir 25k

CPP 01 Superior Mystic Phase Pants of Fenrir 25k
CPP 02 Superior Radiant Phase Pants of Mjolnir 40k

CPS 01 Superior Phase Shoes of Heimdall 40k
CPS 02 Superior Phase Shoes of Fenrir 30k
CPS 03 Superior Phase Shoes of Heimdall 40k
CPS 04 Superior Phase Shoes of Heimdall 40k

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=2166784

SHH 01 Superior Shade Helmet of the Shadowdancer 20k
SHH 02 Superior Shade Helmet of the Fleet 20k

SHB 03 Superior Shade Breastplate of the Fleet 15k
SHB 04 Superior Shade Breastplate of the Fleet 15k

SHL 01 Superior Jade Shade Leggings of the Shadowdancer 25k

SHF 01 Superior Shade Boots of the Fleet 15k
SHF 02 Superior Shade Boots of the Fleet 15k
SHF 03
SHF 04 Superior Shade Boots of the Shadowdancer 25k


https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=2166785
SLG 02 Superior Power Gauntlets of Slaughter 75k
SLG 03 Superior Power Gauntlets of Slaughter 150k
SLG 04 Superior Power Gauntlets of Slaughter 100k

SLL 01 Average Power Leggings of Slaughter 100k
SLL 02 Superior Mithril Power Leggings of Slaughter 150k
SLL 03 Superior Power Leggings of Slaughter 100k
SLL 04 Superior Power Leggings of Slaughter 300k
SLL 05 Superior Power Leggings of Slaughter 600k
SLL 06 Superior Power Leggings of Slaughter 450k

SLB 01 Superior Power Boots of Slaughter 500k

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=1952306
TH-EEC1 Superior Ethereal Estoc of the Cheetah - 60K......(22% PA)

TH-MEV1 Superior Ethereal Mace of the Vampire | 80K | ......(37.7 damage, 23% stun; 17% SH)

TH-MEBC1 Superior Ethereal Mace of the Battlecaster - 200K......(33.14 damage, 20% stun, 17.83 MC, 3 PABs)
TH-MEBC2 Superior Ethereal Mace of the Battlecaster - 70K......(35.65 damage, 22% stun, 14.76 MC)

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=1952309
C-PRFC3 Superior Radiant Phase Cap of Freyr | | ......EDB(11.86 Wind) 2.93EVADE 3.23INT 3.23WIS
C-PNP1 Superior Radiant Phase Shoes of Niflheim | 80K | ......EDB(10.30 Cold) 3.21EVADE 3.24INT 2.64WIS 2.64AGI

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=1952312
H-PAS1 Superior Power Armor of Slaughter - 350K......(18.56 AD, 4 PABs)

H-PGAS Superior Power Gauntlets of Slaughter - (stolen)......(15.22 AD, 4.45 STR, 3.55 DEX)
H-PGAS1 Superior Power Gauntlets of Slaughter - 180K......(14.32AD, 2.63 STR, 4.13 DEX, 1.73 END)
H-PGAS2 Superior Power Gauntlets of Slaughter | 100K | ......16.91DMG 4.79PMI 2PABs(STR,END)

H-PGRS1 Superior Power Leggings of Slaughter - 100K......(16.07 AD, 5.65 STR, 3.25 END, 2.35 AGI)

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=1952359
H-PLGAS1 Superior Shield Gauntlets of Protection (old shield) | 40K | ......4.81BLK 3PABs(STR,DEX,END)

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=2913149
[40110769] Superior Ethereal Estoc of Slaughter | 10k |
[47523592] Superior Ethereal Estoc of Slaughter | 10k |
[39514094] Superior Ethereal Estoc of Slaughter | 10k |
[47320986] Superior Ethereal Estoc of Slaughter | 10k |
[41620713] Superior Ethereal Estoc of Slaughter | 10k |
[44301285] Superior Ethereal Estoc of Slaughter | 10k |
[41560290] Superior Ethereal Estoc of Slaughter | 10k |
[44890466] Superior Ethereal Estoc of Slaughter | 10k |
[45949535] Superior Ethereal Estoc of Slaughter | 10k |
[44805323] Superior Ethereal Estoc of Slaughter | 10k |
[42335428] Superior Ethereal Estoc of Slaughter | 10k |
[47522529] Superior Ethereal Estoc of Slaughter | 10k |

[47522488] Superior Ethereal Mace of Slaughter | 20k |
[47522390] Superior Ethereal Mace of Slaughter | 20k |
[43262098] Superior Ethereal Mace of Slaughter | 20k |
[48940061] Superior Ethereal Mace of Slaughter | 20k |
[47998983] Superior Ethereal Mace of Slaughter | 20k |
[43435781] Superior Ethereal Mace of Slaughter | 20k |
[50661394] Superior Ethereal Mace of Slaughter | 20k |

[46076487] Superior Ethereal Katana of Slaughter | 50k |
[43537006] Superior Ethereal Katana of Slaughter | 70k |

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=2913150
[47888496] Superior Power Helmet of Slaughter | 10k |
[48570305] Superior Power Helmet of Slaughter | 20k |
[49667381] Superior Savage Power Helmet of Slaughter | 100k |
[47242674] Superior Power Helmet of Slaughter | 70k |
[49242456] Superior Power Armor of Slaughter | 10k |
[47873006] Superior Power Armor of Slaughter | 20k |
[48077939] Superior Power Gauntlets of Slaughter | 20k |
[51239324] Superior Ruby Power Leggings of Slaughter | 30k |
[49669274] Superior Power Leggings of Slaughter | 20k |
[50062632] Superior Power Leggings of Slaughter | 20k |
[49675149] Superior Power Boots of Slaughter | 10k |

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=3017633
(all 20k, Savage add 20k, 2PAB or less half price)
[SupPow0]Superior Power Helmet of Slaughter
[SupPow1]Superior Power Helmet of Slaughter
[SupPow2]Superior Power Armor of Slaughter
[SupPow3]Superior Power Armor of Slaughter
[SupPow4]Superior Power Armor of Slaughter
[SupPow5]Superior Power Armor of Slaughter
[SupPow6]Superior Zircon Power Armor of Slaughter
[SupPow7]Superior Power Gauntlets of Slaughter
[SupPow8]Superior Power Gauntlets of Slaughter
[SupPow9]Superior Power Gauntlets of Slaughter
[SupPow10]Superior Power Gauntlets of Slaughter
[SupPow11]Superior Power Gauntlets of Slaughter
[SupPow12]Superior Power Gauntlets of Slaughter
[SupPow13]Superior Power Gauntlets of Slaughter
[SupPow14]Superior Power Leggings of Slaughter
[SupPow15]Superior Power Leggings of Slaughter
[SupPow16]Superior Power Boots of Slaughter
[SupPow17]Superior Power Boots of Slaughter
[SupPow18]Superior Power Boots of Slaughter
[SupPow19]Superior Power Boots of Slaughter

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...t&p=2815227
[H82213]Superior Power Armor of Slaughter 50K
[H82215]Superior Power Leggings of Slaughter 30K
[H82216]Superior Power Boots of Slaughter 30K
[H82228]Superior Savage Power Leggings of Slaughter 50K
[H82229]Superior Power Leggings of Slaughter 50K
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post Oct 28 2014, 10:43
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experts,, whats kind of shield is best? buckler, kite or what? ^^
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post Oct 28 2014, 10:46
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QUOTE(Toru Ikeda @ Oct 28 2014, 11:43) *

experts,, whats kind of shield is best? buckler, kite or what? ^^


depends, but force I think (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Oct 28 2014, 10:49
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QUOTE(TygerTyger @ Oct 28 2014, 11:27) *

At your level I would think so.... its dodging rather than taking everything.... counts on equipment quality as well...


And what level do I need? 500 and full peerless power slaughter 100|50 forged?)
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post Oct 28 2014, 11:23
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QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Oct 28 2014, 19:49) *

And what level do I need? 500 and full peerless power slaughter 100|50 forged?)


No, I meant because stats on equipment scale to your level, so 2h shade would be better because the dodge is better than taking all hits, if you really like heavy go with 1h, with a rapier and a force shield so you can block when you play at PF taking all hits isn't a good thing. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Oct 28 2014, 11:24
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Oct 28 2014, 09:34) *

I think I found the problem with ninten.

You can clear the mob acceptably fast after you hit it with skyward sword, however it takes 10 turns to recharge another one so thats like a speed cap for ninten especially at higher rounds when there are more than 5 monsters.

It would be cool if skyward sword could be used more often or could hit all enemies like in the good old days. Why was that nerf anyways?

and pairing it with fus ro dah?
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post Oct 28 2014, 11:29
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QUOTE(TygerTyger @ Oct 28 2014, 11:23) *

No, I meant because stats on equipment scale to your level, so 2h shade would be better because the dodge is better than taking all hits, if you really like heavy go with 1h, with a rapier and a force shield so you can block when you play at PF taking all hits isn't a good thing. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


ok, Ill try to find some nice shade and check this out (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Oct 28 2014, 11:56
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QUOTE(djackallstar @ Oct 28 2014, 02:38) *

Some examples of "worth selling":
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Thanks a lot djack (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) That was very informative.
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post Oct 28 2014, 12:07
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 27 2014, 23:24) *

and pairing it with fus ro dah?


Yeah I was wondering about Fus ro dah and friendship cannon, however they can not be used consistently, like every few waves. Fus ro dah also has a 10% dmg sacrifice.
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post Oct 28 2014, 12:19
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Derp too late.

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post Oct 28 2014, 14:53
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QUOTE(EsotericSatire @ Oct 28 2014, 18:07) *

Yeah I was wondering about Fus ro dah and friendship cannon, however they can not be used consistently, like every few waves. Fus ro dah also has a 10% dmg sacrifice.

Fus ro dah + estoc is ok.
However, Niten lacking PA, it is necessary to use skyward sword anyway. No reason to give up 10% attack.
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post Oct 28 2014, 14:59
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QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Oct 28 2014, 10:25) *

I can easily play all arenas on IWTBH, that's enough for me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Main question is - 2H Heavy really noticeably worse than 2H Light?


Depends on who you're talking to. There's people who consider anything sub-optimal as nothing but trash and there's people who consider it viable.

IMO, if you're playing fine without struggling too much and having some fun it shouldn't be all that bad...
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post Oct 28 2014, 17:25
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QUOTE(gynew @ Oct 28 2014, 12:54) *

Apart from obsoletes, of course.
Is there ANY piece of equipment with Superior quality (or lower) that could actually worth something? Or Should I just salvage/sell to bazzar all of them, without considering anything at all?

Only viable gear in this case would be Superior grade Power Slaughter with Smax ADB.

QUOTE(Toru Ikeda @ Oct 28 2014, 14:13) *

whats kind of shield is best? buckler, kite or what? ^^


Kite: Totally useless. Don't use it.

Buckler:
Best suffix - Battlecaster (with minimum 19% MC).
Best use - Clearing Grindfest without "Focus".

Force Shield:
Best Suffix - Warding
Best use - Everywhere! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


BTW, I have some questions again:
1. Which happens first? Parry or Block?
2. Umm...forgot it! Shall ask when I remember! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
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post Oct 28 2014, 17:25
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QUOTE(Hoheneim @ Oct 28 2014, 14:59) *

Depends on who you're talking to. There's people who consider anything sub-optimal as nothing but trash and there's people who consider it viable.

IMO, if you're playing fine without struggling too much and having some fun it shouldn't be all that bad...


Actually I am slowly working for the PFUDOR everything, so I may end up get stuck with mage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
But I am lazy, so I play 2H now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Oct 28 2014, 17:31
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QUOTE(tetron @ Oct 28 2014, 16:25) *

1. Which happens first? Parry or Block?

1. block. and parry is only for physical attacks, btw.
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post Oct 28 2014, 17:51
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QUOTE(tetron @ Oct 28 2014, 23:25) *

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Kite: Totally useless. Don't use it.

Almost everything has an exception.
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post Oct 28 2014, 18:05
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QUOTE(tetron @ Oct 28 2014, 23:25) *
Kite: Totally useless. Don't use it.

Old kite of barrier is good. New kite is rubbish.
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post Oct 28 2014, 18:11
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QUOTE(Colman @ Oct 28 2014, 18:05) *

Old kite of barrier is good. New kite is rubbish.


Old Tower Shield of the Barrier is very good too.

also, damn you kuro009. damn you... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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