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post Mar 25 2011, 23:25
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QUOTE(Koshinator @ Mar 25 2011, 22:50) *

Well, that vase + gum + channeling combo worked like a charm.....

I quickly threw together a curse weaver set (well, sorta - just what i could scrounge from the bazaar and what i already had), and it gave me a total of about 220 deprecating prof... and with channeling gave me 196 rounds of poison damage of 2192, enough to kill it outright with no more help from me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

374 12 You are Victorious!

spark only triggered once (perplexing paradox), and the rest of it was ET, Soul Harvest and keeping up the buffs, damn sight easier than my previous try...

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Did you just cast it once? 196 rounds of poison, yet you won in 374 turns o.o

QUOTE(paul23 @ Mar 25 2011, 22:45) *

hmm makes sense I guess (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif).

Are people actually "hybriding" (doing both magic damage as well as melee dmg with 1 set).. So are people using weaponry with the suffix "of the battlecaster"?

Also I'm a bit ashamed to ask this: but what is nowadays a decent way to gain credits (and crystal?).. - I gain like 4-5 credits every round on an average cake-grind (till round 50) - and hardly ever get crystals and such (like 2 every 50 rounds). Yet I see people buying/selling hundreds of them at once, are those just lots and lots of cakegrinds, or are there better methods to make profit?

Some do, but not that many.

If you want credits, do your daily arenas, your hourly encounters and grind some equip in IW. For IW, get a lvl ~300 piece of crap equip and go into it to the last level and then flee. I used to cake grind a lvl 250ish flimsy helm with my heavy and niten sets -> fuckloads of potions, elixirs, equips, artifacts, etc. Sell all that shit -> Profit.
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post Mar 25 2011, 23:31
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QUOTE((Cheater) KamuiSeph @ Mar 26 2011, 07:25) *

Did you just cast it once? 196 rounds of poison, yet you won in 374 turns o.o


Well, i was mucking about at the start, getting all buffed and ready, but the main reason it's 374 turns is that i was hasted and IPU was slowed the entire time - and posion doesn't hit on every one of your turns in that instance (all dependent on your speed)

And yes, just the once (and it still had 80 or so turns left when it died)

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post Mar 25 2011, 23:39
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QUOTE((Cheater) KamuiSeph @ Mar 26 2011, 00:25) *

If you want credits, do your daily arenas, your hourly encounters and grind some equip in IW. For IW, get a lvl ~300 piece of crap equip and go into it to the last level and then flee. I used to cake grind a lvl 250ish flimsy helm with my heavy and niten sets -> fuckloads of potions, elixirs, equips, artifacts, etc. Sell all that shit -> Profit.

How is item world better for drops than grindfest, isn't it the same as grindfest but more xp (yet no coins)? - More xp would mean faster lvls which would mean the proficiencies would be "less than ideal".

Besides surviving a 300 round game seems impossible for me lol.
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post Mar 26 2011, 00:07
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QUOTE(paul23 @ Mar 25 2011, 23:39) *

How is item world better for drops than grindfest, isn't it the same as grindfest but more xp (yet no coins)? - More xp would mean faster lvls which would mean the proficiencies would be "less than ideal".

Besides surviving a 300 round game seems impossible for me lol.

It's not more exp. Especially not on cake + flimsy/crude equip.
In fact *runs to check*
312 Exp (full round of 9 mobs, no mini-bosses) cake grindfest.
328 Exp (blah blah, the same thing) cake IW on a crude Item.

That's 16 exp. That's 0.0005% of my level requirement.
Not to mention that I have a significant Exp increase boost, which should make the difference even bigger.

The point of cake+crude IW is that it's fucking easy. Sure, you don't get the credits, but you get the rounds. More rounds -> higher chance of drops.
Sure, equip drops suck balls, but for some reason I always got an amazing amount of elixirs (expensive bitches) and quite a few artifacts out of cakegrinding IW.
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post Mar 26 2011, 00:49
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And there goes FSM in less turns (Mainly due to the fact that my holy rating is maxed)

298 19 You gain 202020 Credits!
298 18 You gain 25874.34 EXP!
298 17 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
298 16 Arena Token Bonus! [Token of Blood]
298 15 Arena Clear Bonus! [Fine Club of the Raccoon]
298 14 Flying Spaghetti Monster dropped [Noodly Appendage]
298 13 You are Victorious!
298 12 The effect Coalesced Mana on Flying Spaghetti Monster has expired.
298 11 The effect Breached Defense on Flying Spaghetti Monster has expired.
298 10 The effect Weakened on Flying Spaghetti Monster has expired.
298 9 The effect Slowed on Flying Spaghetti Monster has expired.
298 8 Flying Spaghetti Monster has been defeated.
298 7 Spreading Poison hits Flying Spaghetti Monster for 2290 damage.
298 6 Flying Spaghetti Monster misses the attack against you.
298 5 Flying Spaghetti Monster casts Puff of Logic
298 4 Flying Spaghetti Monster gains the effect Breached Defense.
298 3 Banish hits Flying Spaghetti Monster for 520 holy damage.
298 2 You cast Banish.

At least i know i can kill the gods without vase/gum - it's just going to take much, much longer.....
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post Mar 26 2011, 02:29
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Mar 25 2011, 20:08) *

Shield (it makes sense the cheaper being the faster at raising prof)
More slots occupied = more spells running =more prof.


Shield is the shortest spell in all prof spells...
Does it means IA raises prof when the spell finish their effect? Then how about elemental shield series? Can it raise prof when I use a gem to override it...or elemental shields can't be put in IA?
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post Mar 26 2011, 02:39
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QUOTE(vean @ Mar 26 2011, 00:29) *

Shield is the shortest spell in all prof spells...
Does it means IA raises prof when the spell finish their effect? Then how about elemental shield series? Can it raise prof when I use a gem to override it...or elemental shields can't be put in IA?
You can only put Haste, SV, Shield or Barrier spells in IA.
It's supposedly to raise prof like you're casting the spells over and over again, as such the same probability to gain prof.
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post Mar 26 2011, 02:39
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Meh double post.

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post Mar 26 2011, 04:26
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I would like to know: will the casting cost of spells affect the probability of raising prof?
Or it is solely dependent on the number of times you cast that type of spell?

For example, will the casting of FoL have 3 times the chance to gain prof. than inferno?
I think the another should be no, but i would like to re-confirm
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post Mar 26 2011, 12:44
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QUOTE(varst @ Mar 26 2011, 04:26) *

Or it is solely dependent on the number of times you cast that type of spell?

Yes.
Therefore, get the cheapest spell for that category.
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post Mar 26 2011, 15:24
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QUOTE((Cheater) KamuiSeph @ Mar 26 2011, 18:44) *

Yes.
Therefore, get the cheapest spell for that category.


Thanks, i am just thinking whether or not to use a skill point on flame spikes
Since it has lower cost than shield and that i can cast it more times
Raising prof. is always as important as gaining level
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post Mar 26 2011, 16:13
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QUOTE(varst @ Mar 26 2011, 15:24) *

Thanks, i am just thinking whether or not to use a skill point on flame spikes
Since it has lower cost than shield and that i can cast it more times
Raising prof. is always as important as gaining level

Flame spikes are worth it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Especially if you don't have IA (automatic supportive prof (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif))
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post Mar 26 2011, 17:27
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QUOTE((Cheater) KamuiSeph @ Mar 26 2011, 22:13) *

Flame spikes are worth it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Especially if you don't have IA (automatic supportive prof (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif))


I have IA 1 right now, chasing for IA2
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post Mar 26 2011, 19:35
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Hello Grandmasters,

im a New Member of the mighty Horde of HentaiSlayers muhahaha (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
im now at lvl 25 and i want to get some Advice from you how to go further in my Gameplay
i just dont like clicken stats in the dark and hope that it is the right choice (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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Im want to make a Paladin ;p
so basicly a guy who runs around with Heavy armor, Shild and a Sword
that can also heal himself
i used everytime i coude cure to push the rating
the lightarmor stats i have, are from light pieces i had to wear realy long because i didnt found any Heavy Armor for the slot.

the last few level i was mainly running arena or item worlds on eqipment i wearing. so i stripped one piece and made the 20 level or so on Hard to get better eqipment.
atm i am on Heroic to make some arena.

basicly i want to know which stats i shoude focus on and the abilitys.
and whats with Training, shoude i get the exp boost or stick to pushing ability points
there is for sure some more important things i dont do atm (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

greez Seraph

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post Mar 26 2011, 20:17
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I'm not an expert.. But if I were you I'd unlock at least 1 deprecating spell (weaken is least cost to cast, at around 3 mp).. Allows you to get proficiency in that role (and lategame deprecating spells are very important in boss fights)..
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post Mar 26 2011, 20:20
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QUOTE(Seraphita @ Mar 26 2011, 19:35) *
Im want to make a Paladin ;p
so basicly a guy who runs around with Heavy armor, Shild and a Sword
that can also heal himself

Lol, just a heads up. Everyone can and DO heal themselves. Shield+sword (especially shortsword) is fucking useless.
Right off the bat, heavy equip+ a decent 2handed weapon is pretty ok.
Later on it will get a shit load harder. Then you're gonna have to get silk armor for lots and lots of evade and dual wield your way through the hordes of monsters.
And even further down the line, your ass is gonna have to become a mage.

So if you are not up for grinding the shit out of your character for 2 years to accomplish anything, save your life and just quit while you can.


Also, keep your stats balanced. As a melee char, you can neglect INT for a while, but not WIS. WIS = mana. More mana = more chance to cast healing spells = longer alive.
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post Mar 26 2011, 21:28
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ok i stop (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Mar 26 2011, 22:56
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QUOTE(Koshinator @ Mar 25 2011, 22:50) *

Well, that vase + gum + channeling combo worked like a charm.....

I quickly threw together a curse weaver set (well, sorta - just what i could scrounge from the bazaar and what i already had), and it gave me a total of about 220 deprecating prof... and with channeling gave me 196 rounds of poison damage of 2192, enough to kill it outright with no more help from me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

spark only triggered once (perplexing paradox), and the rest of it was ET, Soul Harvest and keeping up the buffs, damn sight easier than my previous try...

Ta muchly for the tips (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Just did the same:

207 12 You gain 200034 Credits!
207 11 You gain 28483.66 EXP!
207 10 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
207 9 Arena Token Bonus! [Token of Healing]
207 8 Arena Clear Bonus! [Average Rapier of Slaughter]
207 7 Flying Spaghetti Monster dropped [Noodly Appendage]
207 6 You are Victorious!

3 Godlies, 4 Divinity infusions, Bubble gum+Vase.

Though my dep prof from my thrown together set was only 160 :/
Where the heck did you get your set?
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post Mar 27 2011, 03:17
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I'm a spellcaster- is there any reason to raise my shield proficiency (the one I can see in the character screen)?

How about light and heavy armor proficiencies?

Or any of the weapon proficiencies other than staff?

Or STR or DEX? (presumably its okay to raise all of the other stats equally...?)
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post Mar 27 2011, 03:53
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QUOTE(ForbiddenOne @ Mar 26 2011, 20:17) *

I'm a spellcaster- is there any reason to raise my shield proficiency (the one I can see in the character screen)?

How about light and heavy armor proficiencies?

Or any of the weapon proficiencies other than staff?

Or STR or DEX? (presumably its okay to raise all of the other stats equally...?)

You don't need to raise prof for any weapons /armor you don't use.
STR and DEX contribute to your shield/barrier ratings IIRC. I'm sure it's in the wiki somewhere.

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