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Oct 22 2014, 06:37
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djackallstar
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QUOTE(Colman @ Oct 21 2014, 16:21)  In PF, monsters have higher chance to cast magic and use special skill. Making the weak point of DW heavy (magic resist/MMI) deadly. -snip-
Pardon me if the following sounds like shit, as I don't play DW at all, but will these setups work? 1) For PFMain-hand: Ethereal Axe of Slaughter Off-hand: Ethereal Waki of the Nimble Armor: Full Phase With this setup, the player is gonna have very good MMI, Resist & Evade (thanks to full phase), nice Parry (off-hand waki), decent speed (two ethereal weapons) and good damage output (axe of slaughter). 2) For Non-PFMain-hand: Ethereal Axe of Slaughter Off-hand: Non-Ethereal-Prefix Rapier of the Battlecaster Armor: Full Phase If the player also plays mage, and if he plays at lower difficulty and doesn't need that much parry, he can replace the waki with a Hallowed/Demonic/Tempestuous/Shocking/Arctic/Fiery Rapier of the Battlecaster. The rapier is like a mini staff which provides not only EDB to increase the magic damage, but also PA to drastically increase the physical damage. Using the rapier with a high-WD axe, the player may be able to cruise through arenas @non-PF, or even @PF. What do you guys think? This post has been edited by djackallstar: Oct 22 2014, 06:42
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Oct 22 2014, 06:54
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tetron
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QUOTE(djackallstar @ Oct 22 2014, 10:07)  Pardon me if the following sounds like shit, as I don't play DW at all, but will these setups work?
1) For PF Main-hand: Ethereal Axe of Slaughter Off-hand: Ethereal Waki of the Nimble Armor: Full Phase
With this setup, the player is gonna have very good MMI, Resist & Evade (thanks to full phase), nice Parry (off-hand waki), decent speed (two ethereal weapons) and good damage output (axe of slaughter).
2) For Non-PF Main-hand: Ethereal Axe of Slaughter Off-hand: Non-Ethereal-Prefix Rapier of the Battlecaster Armor: Full Phase
If the player also plays mage, and if he plays at lower difficulty and doesn't need that much parry, he can replace the waki with a Hallowed/Demonic/Tempestuous/Shocking/Arctic/Fiery Rapier of the Battlecaster. The rapier is like a mini staff which provides not only EDB to increase the magic damage, but also PA to drastically increase the physical damage. Using the rapier with a high-WD axe, the player may be able to cruise through arenas @non-PF, or even @PF.
What do you guys think?
For PF, a far more simple and effective way would be to use a full Shade-Negation set. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) And Axe is shit, literally. If you want Bleeding Wound proc, use Shortsword. It may lack a bit of ADB compared to Axe, but it more than makes up for that firepower with it's Parry Chance. For PF especially, the difference is significant. This post has been edited by tetron: Oct 22 2014, 06:58
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Oct 22 2014, 06:59
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Cats Lover
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QUOTE(djackallstar @ Oct 22 2014, 13:37)  Pardon me if the following sounds like shit, as I don't play DW at all, but will these setups work?
1) For PF Main-hand: Ethereal Axe of Slaughter Off-hand: Ethereal Waki of the Nimble Armor: Full Phase
With this setup, the player is gonna have very good MMI, Resist & Evade (thanks to full phase), nice Parry (off-hand waki), decent speed (two ethereal weapons) and good damage output (axe of slaughter).
2) For Non-PF Main-hand: Ethereal Axe of Slaughter Off-hand: Non-Ethereal-Prefix Rapier of the Battlecaster Armor: Full Phase
If the player also plays mage, and if he plays at lower difficulty and doesn't need that much parry, he can replace the waki with a Hallowed/Demonic/Tempestuous/Shocking/Arctic/Fiery Rapier of the Battlecaster. The rapier is like a mini staff which provides not only EDB to increase the magic damage, but also PA to drastically increase the physical damage. Using the rapier with a high-WD axe, the player may be able to cruise through arenas @non-PF, or even @PF.
What do you guys think?
You may have good MMI, Resist, Evade with phase but would easily die by monster's normal attack because of bad PMI and 0% physical mitigation. Full time mages cover their weakness against physical attack by killing enemies fast, but DW + Phase can't do anything IMO. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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Oct 22 2014, 07:07
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malkatmp
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QUOTE(djackallstar @ Oct 22 2014, 06:37)  Pardon me if the following sounds like shit, as I don't play DW at all, but will these setups work?
1) For PF Main-hand: Ethereal Axe of Slaughter Off-hand: Ethereal Waki of the Nimble Armor: Full Phase
With this setup, the player is gonna have very good MMI, Resist & Evade (thanks to full phase), nice Parry (off-hand waki), decent speed (two ethereal weapons) and good damage output (axe of slaughter).
2) For Non-PF Main-hand: Ethereal Axe of Slaughter Off-hand: Non-Ethereal-Prefix Rapier of the Battlecaster Armor: Full Phase
If the player also plays mage, and if he plays at lower difficulty and doesn't need that much parry, he can replace the waki with a Hallowed/Demonic/Tempestuous/Shocking/Arctic/Fiery Rapier of the Battlecaster. The rapier is like a mini staff which provides not only EDB to increase the magic damage, but also PA to drastically increase the physical damage. Using the rapier with a high-WD axe, the player may be able to cruise through arenas @non-PF, or even @PF.
What do you guys think?
imo, for PF you'll either need Imperil or PA to speed things up. That's why a lot of DW users have Rapier Balance for offhand. The 100% offhand strike is a good thing too. Second thing is Shade provides more defense & offense. iirc, shade has more evades, more PMI/MMI and resist (?!). also, MMI is less of an issue when you've good resist, SS & SOL. Shade also provide more ADB and Str/Dex/Agi/End are more useful PAB for melee than Wis/Int/Agi in phase. Lastly, forging Shade is quite cheap/easy. CP goes for 200-280k, HG Wood/Cloth goes for 8+k. Shade Fragment goes for 25-35k(?!), HG leather goes for 2-3k. This post has been edited by malkatmp: Oct 22 2014, 07:13
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Oct 22 2014, 08:12
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Colman
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QUOTE(djackallstar @ Oct 22 2014, 12:37)  Pardon me if the following sounds like shit, as I don't play DW at all, but will these setups work?
1) For PF Main-hand: Ethereal Axe of Slaughter Off-hand: Ethereal Waki of the Nimble Armor: Full Phase
With this setup, the player is gonna have very good MMI, Resist & Evade (thanks to full phase), nice Parry (off-hand waki), decent speed (two ethereal weapons) and good damage output (axe of slaughter).
2) For Non-PF Main-hand: Ethereal Axe of Slaughter Off-hand: Non-Ethereal-Prefix Rapier of the Battlecaster Armor: Full Phase
If the player also plays mage, and if he plays at lower difficulty and doesn't need that much parry, he can replace the waki with a Hallowed/Demonic/Tempestuous/Shocking/Arctic/Fiery Rapier of the Battlecaster. The rapier is like a mini staff which provides not only EDB to increase the magic damage, but also PA to drastically increase the physical damage. Using the rapier with a high-WD axe, the player may be able to cruise through arenas @non-PF, or even @PF.
What do you guys think?
Hybrid melee/mage? Do you think you can play melee @ PF with full phase armor? At least you need a 50%+ block shield and some (33%+) parry. It make Rapier + force shield + phase the only working hybrid I know so far. If you replace the rapier with waki or shortsword, I doubt you can melee more than 10 rounds in PF. If you use axe, you need some ADB forge to make OFC useful.
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Oct 22 2014, 08:28
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Al2aNoS
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Is it ok? And how to find much credits?
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Oct 22 2014, 08:36
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Cats Lover
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QUOTE(Al2aNoS @ Oct 22 2014, 15:28)  Is it ok? Not bad for low level, but raise more WIS. QUOTE And how to find much credits?
Level up to 300 at least and get the first clear credits of all the arenas and all the ring of bloods first. It's your seed money for initial gears and some minimal trainings. After that you should run all the highest arenas including SGs to get stable income, aiming for decent equipment with luck. Go Grindfest with Crystarium perk if you have much time to play. Running a lot of H@H clients, donation, and bounty hunting are for outside of playing the game. This post has been edited by Cats Lover: Oct 22 2014, 08:41
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Oct 22 2014, 10:51
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Closed Account
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Oct 22 2014, 11:31
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Colman
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QUOTE(crazy3d @ Oct 22 2014, 16:51)  It is rather good IMO, at least for exq staff.
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Oct 22 2014, 12:20
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Yahoohoo
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 I used two handed weapon and heavy armor every parts. I started today, so I need many information. please give me any information. Thank you. This post has been edited by Yahoohoo: Oct 22 2014, 12:21
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Oct 22 2014, 13:08
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Dan31
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QUOTE(Yahoohoo @ Oct 22 2014, 12:20)   I used two handed weapon and heavy armor every parts. I started today, so I need many information. please give me any information. Thank you. I've sent you some stuff that should considerably lower your burden, so you will be able to raise your DEX to the level of STR and END. Try to get an ethereal mace of slaughter, stun is great for survivability. Be sure to slot in HP and MP tank abilities, as well as better pots, 2H/heavy abilities, better protection/cure/regen, and a spike shield (either flame or frost). Better haste/shadow veil when you get them. Train Ability Boost if you need more ability points. Don't unlock the Drain Augment ability slot (pink slot) for now. Regarding trainings, train Adept Learner to ~100, Ability Boost as needed, Pack Rat as high as you can (bringing more pots to battle will greatly increase your survivability), and drop-related trainings when you can. This post has been edited by Dan31: Oct 22 2014, 13:09
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Oct 22 2014, 13:21
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TygerTyger
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Price check on these two
Also is max amount of block you can forge 50?
This post has been edited by TygerTyger: Oct 22 2014, 13:39
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Oct 22 2014, 13:30
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Cats Lover
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QUOTE(TygerTyger @ Oct 22 2014, 20:21)  Price check on these two?Exquisite Plate is a bazaar fodder. Magnificent Jade Plate Cuirass of Warding is 5~10k or high-grade metals worth.
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Oct 22 2014, 13:42
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(TygerTyger @ Oct 22 2014, 13:21)  Also is max amount of block you can forge 50?
yes. ADB/EDB until lv100, and all the others until lv50, but you need to have maximum forge level to do so
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Oct 22 2014, 13:43
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TygerTyger
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 22 2014, 21:42)  yes. ADB/EDB until lv100, and all the others until lv50, but you need to have maximum forge level to do so Sigh, One day..... (at 21 atm) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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Oct 22 2014, 13:52
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(TygerTyger @ Oct 22 2014, 13:43)  Sigh, One day..... (at 21 atm) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) 11 here (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) wannaf has lv50 and you can take advantage of it for free (obviously if you provide him the needed materials), ask him if you need it
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Oct 22 2014, 13:57
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TygerTyger
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 22 2014, 21:52)  11 here (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) wannaf has lv50 and you can take advantage of it for free (obviously if you provide him the needed materials), ask him if you need it Would If there was a mat calculator (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Oct 22 2014, 14:58
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djackallstar
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QUOTE(TygerTyger @ Oct 22 2014, 19:43)  Sigh, One day..... (at 21 atm) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) 1) wannaf's running a "free forge" service that can help you upgrade your equips to specified levels. The only thing you need to do is provide enough forge materials. 2) kainord's holding an auction that has many pieces of leather armor @5k, you can salvage them to increase your forge level using this method suggested by Cats Lover. 3) You can also send the equips and enough materials to me and I can forge them to Lv.31 for you.
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