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post Jan 20 2010, 05:06
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QUOTE(coredumperror @ Jan 19 2010, 21:36) *

To add to cmal's post, it's true that nothing affects burden directly, but AGI increases your action speed, which helps negate your burden.

It doesn't so much negate it as it alleviates the effect of Burden on the Time Units your actions take by increasing your Action Speed. You'll need a lot of AGI (3 points for every point of AS) to have much of an effect on high Burden, since every point of Burden over 20 is subtracted from your AS. Your Burden will always be there, making you slower than you could be, but not necessarily slower than the mobs (since we don't know how how the stats of monsters are generated compared to ours).
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post Jan 20 2010, 07:17
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post Jan 20 2010, 07:27
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The current going rate is roughly 10k credits.
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post Jan 21 2010, 00:00
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I'm trying to make a tank char, and I need advise for the ability tree. Can you high lvl people show me a picture of yours ability tree?

I wanna know if its viable to spend points in Spirit and Overcharge Boost. If it's viable to maximize Redemption to boost Curative Magic. Which magic (deprecating/supportive...) comb it's better. It's ok to maximize Magic Tank, or just use mana potion.
I'll be thankful for yours opinions.
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post Jan 21 2010, 00:21
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QUOTE(_MSK_ @ Jan 20 2010, 17:00) *

I'm trying to make a tank char, and I need advise for the ability tree. Can you high lvl people show me a picture of yours ability tree?

I wanna know if its viable to spend points in Spirit and Overcharge Boost. If it's viable to maximize Redemption to boost Curative Magic. Which magic (deprecating/supportive...) comb it's better. It's ok to maximize Magic Tank, or just use mana potion.
I'll be thankful for yours opinions.

Max MP Tanks, you'll need the MP to cast support spells. I can't emphasize enough that just because you're a melee character doesn't mean you don't need MP. SP-OC you don't need until you get higher in level and have spare AP. You don't need to get the Holy trees for Holy rating because the effect is negligible for such a high cost in AP, but if you have spare AP go for it.

Tank-wise, I have every HP, MP, and SP-OC available to me maxed (42 tanks and 70 OC). Spell-wise, I have Shield, Cure/II, Regen/II, Weaken, Bewilder, Silence, Absorb, Spark, Haste, SV. I'll probably re-get Poison and maybe spec in Slow eventually.
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post Jan 21 2010, 02:44
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QUOTE(cmal @ Jan 20 2010, 14:21) *
Tank-wise, I have every HP, MP, and SP-OC available to me maxed (42 tanks and 70 OC). Spell-wise, I have Shield, Cure/II, Regen/II, Weaken, Bewilder, Silence, Absorb, Spark, Haste, SV. I'll probably re-get Poison and maybe spec in Slow eventually.


How do you like Absorb? I've never picked it up, mostly because my magic avoidance is so high (32% evade, 32% block, 10% resist) that it seems unlikely to actually catch enough spells to be worthwhile. Am I totally wrong? How often does it restore enough MP to totally refund the mana cost?

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post Jan 21 2010, 02:54
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QUOTE(coredumperror @ Jan 20 2010, 19:44) *

How do you like Absorb? I've never picked it up, mostly because my magic avoidance is so high (32% evade, 32% block, 10% resist) that it seems unlikely to actually catch enough spells to be worthwhile. Am I totally wrong? How often does it restore enough MP to totally refund the mana cost?

I rarely ever cast it. Normally, I just throw it up during Boss rounds to give me some extra protection while I'm setting up. Half the time, it never triggers when I need it to anyway, since I either kill everything that casts, nobody casts, they miss, or its a crit. Its not an essential spell, but its good to have.
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post Jan 21 2010, 02:55
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I used to use it alot before I switched from heavy armor to an avoidance based setup. At 30+ evade and 30+ block I was finding that is wasn't mana efficient anymore, and I dropped in after the next reset. I wouldn't advise getting it, especially after Tenboro let us know that it does not absorb critical hits, so it will never save your from "toddlerguro crits your face for 75% of you hp" or the like.
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post Jan 21 2010, 04:03
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Would using bewilder make absorb more useful since it prevents magical crits (I'm assuming)?
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post Jan 21 2010, 04:20
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well, in most cases if you have bewilder up the damage isn't going to be high enough to warrant another skill to deal with magic damage.

Does anyone know if bewilder does prevent magic crits? I know weaken prevents physical crits but the last time bewilder was brought up I didn't get a solid answer.
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post Jan 21 2010, 09:24
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post Jan 21 2010, 15:35
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thats my new mage build

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post Jan 22 2010, 01:31
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Hey guys, thanks heaps for the advice you gave me previously, helped heaps!

This is where I am now. (Below)

I'm thinking I should upgrade my pants and shirt, should I switch to full cloth, or is it ok to have one heavy?

About ablities, have I got the right ones? I've been thinking about a bunch of others (Slow, Shadow Veil, Haste- would they be woth it? I've no Auto-Cast Slots)

Any training I should focus on? Any help is much appreciated.

Fine Ruby Rapier of Balance
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Fine Platinum Plate Cuirass
Fair Phase Gloves of the Curse-weaver
Average Silk Pants of the Raccoon
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post Jan 22 2010, 02:00
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QUOTE(nick321 @ Jan 21 2010, 18:31) *

Hey guys, thanks heaps for the advice you gave me previously, helped heaps!

This is where I am now. (Below)

I'm thinking I should upgrade my pants and shirt, should I switch to full cloth, or is it ok to have one heavy?

About ablities, have I got the right ones? I've been thinking about a bunch of others (Slow, Shadow Veil, Haste- would they be woth it? I've no Auto-Cast Slots)

Any training I should focus on? Any help is much appreciated.

Fine Ruby Rapier of Balance
Fine Titanium Rapier of Balance
Superior Phase Cap of Heimdall
Fine Platinum Plate Cuirass
Fair Phase Gloves of the Curse-weaver
Average Silk Pants of the Raccoon
Fine Phase Shoes of Surtr

I think you're doing fine. If you can find a better plate cuirass with lower interference, by all means switch into it. Or if you find something better that's not plate, go with that, its your call. Same with your pants.

Haste is is great, especially since you're low-Burden, high-AS. You'll reap more benefits from it. SV not so much since you've already got a good bit of Evade, but its still useful, especially against large mobs. Can't say anything about Slow since I have no first-hand experience with it, but it should be useful against RoB-level monsters.

As for training, maxing Pack Rat should be a goal at some point.
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post Jan 22 2010, 05:29
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Whats the best way to level magical proficiencies? i just hit lvl 30 and im trying to level up my supportive proficiency so i can make shield more worthwhile for the mana cost.
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post Jan 22 2010, 06:45
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The best general way to level magic is to use the low arenas for spell spamming. You can bring low power mana restoratives to get more casts, and once you clear the arena you get a free refill. If you've cleared your arenas already, you can repeat this in cakefests or low quality item worlds.

In other words, the only way to get proficiency up to is to cast a lot. These are just some of the cost efficient ways to do so.
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post Jan 22 2010, 06:46
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Sadly, the only way is to spam your cheapest spell over and over. At your level, your cheapest supportive spell is shield.

What I do is go into a low arena, kill all but one monster, and then spam shield and pop lesser mana potions until I run out of potions and mana, then kill the last monster and get the arena full-heal.

You should level deprecating prof with a staff, regardless of your usual fighting style. The reason for that Coalesced Mana halves the mana cost of Weaken, which is your cheapest deprecating spell. The only way to proc Coa is with a staff equipped.

Curative leveling is the same as supportive, but with casting Cure.

As for leveling armor and weapon profs I've found that high level Flimsy item worlds are best. Monsters in Flimsy items deal very, very low damage, so you can spam melee attacks while taking tons and tons of hits that deal 0 damage. The high-level part is important because you're limited to only 10 IW entrances per day, so you want to get as many rounds as possible from each IW.
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post Jan 22 2010, 18:28
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How does the trade system between users work? I send the credits by the "User Control Panel", and the seller sends me the item/equip by MoogleMail? I'm asking because I heard about sending the credits by MoogleMail, but did not find this option. I heard also about a 10% fee charged by MoogleMail (this fee is to send credits or items/equip? Thanks in advance.
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post Jan 22 2010, 19:26
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QUOTE(_MSK_ @ Jan 22 2010, 08:28) *

How does the trade system between users work? I send the credits by the "User Control Panel", and the seller sends me the item/equip by MoogleMail? I'm asking because I heard about sending the credits by MoogleMail, but did not find this option. I heard also about a 10% fee charged by MoogleMail (this fee is to send credits or items/equip? Thanks in advance.

You can't send credits by MoogleMail per se. What happens, is if a person sets a COD cost on the item/equip, you pay via MoogleMail rather than directly through the control panel. The 10% fee is a percentage of the COD cost that the seller pays for using the COD system (they will usually pass along the fee to the buyer if they insist on using the COD method of payment).
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post Jan 23 2010, 17:52
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i have You have 3 Aura Slots (0 free), and 2 Aura Points available.

so if i deactivate my one aura and activate new one i can use the new one with just 1 aura point

deactive maybe need aura point i think for a sec its why i asking

nvm i tried and its ok

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