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May 22 2014, 06:39
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Colman
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ May 22 2014, 12:24)  So I just ran all 3 SG with elemental infusion by accident, speed is exactly the same as with holy/dark infusion
I reckon there's really no point to paying extra money for demonic weapon (hallowed is somewhat justifiable, cos of the cure bonus) or holy/dark infusion/strike, is there?
The extra money should pay for the internet. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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May 22 2014, 06:43
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Cats Lover
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 2,800
Joined: 18-April 13

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QUOTE(holy_demon @ May 22 2014, 13:24)  So I just ran SG with elemental infusion by accident, speed is exactly the same as with holy/dark infusion
I reckon there's really no point to paying extra money for demonic weapon (hallowed is somewhat justifiable, cos of the cure bonus) or holy/dark infusion, is there?
Well, this is just my case, I tested a month ago on DwD. 1. Demonic rapier + no infusion + only using normal hit (not ever using OFC and 1H skills) - 62:30 (4 mana pot + 5 sp pot) 2. Demonic rapier + holy infusion + only using normal hit (not ever using OFC and 1H skills) - 56:15 (5 mana pot + 4 sp pot) 3. Demonic rapier + wind infusion + only using normal hit (not ever using OFC and 1H skills) - 58:44 (4 mana pot + 5 sp pot) 4. Demonic rapier + no infusion + using OFC and 1H skills - 52:58 (3 mana pot + 2 sp pot) 5. Demonic rapier + holy infusion + using OFC and 1H skills - 50:31 (4 mana pot + 2 sp pot) 6. Demonic rapier + wind infusion + using OFC and 1H skills - 51:10 (3 mana pot + 2 sp pot) Eh... maybe not a meaningful data. Sorry... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) It would be more precise and meaningful if I have elemental rapier which has almost same WD with my demonic rapier. But at least, the record is saying that when you use OFC and 1H skill, more strike has no much differences regardless of holy and wind as expected.
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May 22 2014, 06:53
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MidNightPass
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Joined: 20-March 11

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The only drawback of one handed: efficiency.
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May 22 2014, 07:07
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Colman
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 7,333
Joined: 15-November 10

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QUOTE(Cats Lover @ May 22 2014, 12:43)  Well, this is just my case, I tested a month ago on DwD. 1. Demonic rapier + no infusion + only using normal hit (not ever using OFC and 1H skills) - 62:30 (4 mana pot + 5 sp pot) 2. Demonic rapier + holy infusion + only using normal hit (not ever using OFC and 1H skills) - 56:15 (5 mana pot + 4 sp pot) 3. Demonic rapier + wind infusion + only using normal hit (not ever using OFC and 1H skills) - 58:44 (4 mana pot + 5 sp pot) 4. Demonic rapier + no infusion + using OFC and 1H skills - 52:58 (3 mana pot + 2 sp pot) 5. Demonic rapier + holy infusion + using OFC and 1H skills - 50:31 (4 mana pot + 2 sp pot) 6. Demonic rapier + wind infusion + using OFC and 1H skills - 51:10 (3 mana pot + 2 sp pot) Eh... maybe not a meaningful data. Sorry... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) It would be more precise and meaningful if I have elemental rapier which has almost same WD with my demonic rapier. But at least, the record is saying that when you use OFC and 1H skill, more strike has no much differences regardless of holy and wind as expected. I like electric more than wind. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) BTW, the network condition is far more important than the elemental strike IMO.
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May 22 2014, 07:20
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Cats Lover
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 2,800
Joined: 18-April 13

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QUOTE(Colman @ May 22 2014, 14:07)  BTW, the network condition is far more important than the elemental strike IMO.
Yep. Fortunately, the network was stable (2.0 turn/sec) during the 1-week test. So it's trustworthy one at least for me. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) In fact I tested it because I'm recently too lazy to use OFC and skills on DwD so want to do it using only normal hits. And I'm satisfied with a hour by normal hits (just mouse up & down) + elemental infusion, watching animation. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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May 22 2014, 07:24
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holy_demon
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Cats Lover @ May 22 2014, 14:43)  Well, this is just my case, I tested a month ago on DwD. 1. Demonic rapier + no infusion + only using normal hit (not ever using OFC and 1H skills) - 62:30 (4 mana pot + 5 sp pot) 2. Demonic rapier + holy infusion + only using normal hit (not ever using OFC and 1H skills) - 56:15 (5 mana pot + 4 sp pot) 3. Demonic rapier + wind infusion + only using normal hit (not ever using OFC and 1H skills) - 58:44 (4 mana pot + 5 sp pot) 4. Demonic rapier + no infusion + using OFC and 1H skills - 52:58 (3 mana pot + 2 sp pot) 5. Demonic rapier + holy infusion + using OFC and 1H skills - 50:31 (4 mana pot + 2 sp pot) 6. Demonic rapier + wind infusion + using OFC and 1H skills - 51:10 (3 mana pot + 2 sp pot) Eh... maybe not a meaningful data. Sorry... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) It would be more precise and meaningful if I have elemental rapier which has almost same WD with my demonic rapier. But at least, the record is saying that when you use OFC and 1H skill, more strike has no much differences regardless of holy and wind as expected. As for me, both holy+dark and fire+cold cleared DwD in 66mins. I can't really test around much since my internet is too unstable for consistency. QUOTE(MidNightPass @ May 22 2014, 14:53)  The only drawback of one handed: efficiency.
It has very high cost efficiency though, being able to do hard runs with significantly less investment (in forging) than other styles This post has been edited by holy_demon: May 22 2014, 07:28
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May 22 2014, 10:15
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TygerTyger
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 6-January 11

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How many amnesia shards does it take to reset an item level from 10 to 0
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May 22 2014, 10:16
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Colman
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Mikey_Mike @ May 22 2014, 16:15)  How many amnesia shards does it take to reset an item level from 10 to 0
10 (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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May 22 2014, 10:41
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TygerTyger
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Colman @ May 22 2014, 10:16)  Okay thanks
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May 22 2014, 17:51
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darkx
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Who has the best proxy selling service? Not talking about auctions, just selling stuff in a shop
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May 22 2014, 18:51
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zen_zen
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(darkx @ May 22 2014, 08:51)  Who has the best proxy selling service? Not talking about auctions, just selling stuff in a shop
Arialinnoc sells equipment on a consignment basis, I believe Colman has sold his stuff through him/her.
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May 22 2014, 19:18
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Colman
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QUOTE(zen_zen @ May 23 2014, 00:51)  Arialinnoc sells equipment on a consignment basis, I believe Colman has sold his stuff through him/her.
I have only tried his proxy auction, but never the proxy shop. BTW, the best proxy shop does not exist. You need to ask the shop owner to see who is willing to sell stuff for you. This post has been edited by Colman: May 22 2014, 19:19
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May 22 2014, 19:29
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malkatmp
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 30-April 12

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QUOTE(darkx @ May 22 2014, 17:51)  Who has the best proxy selling service? Not talking about auctions, just selling stuff in a shop
imo, if you just have a few items to sell, you can just advertise them in your signature. if you're somewhat active it can be more effective than running a smallish-shop. ie a walking billboard. if you've 5-10 "good enough" items, you can just run your own shop. ie dongchun's shopor i can list your items for free in my shop, but it doesn't really get any traffic. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) This post has been edited by malkatmp: May 22 2014, 19:30
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May 22 2014, 19:40
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darkx
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Joined: 3-December 06

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QUOTE(Colman @ May 22 2014, 13:18)  I have only tried his proxy auction, but never the proxy shop. BTW, the best proxy shop does not exist. You need to ask the shop owner to see who is willing to sell stuff for you.
Guess I'll ask around QUOTE(malkatmp @ May 22 2014, 13:29)  imo, if you just have a few items to sell, you can just advertise them in your signature. if you're somewhat active it can be more effective than running a smallish-shop. ie a walking billboard. if you've 5-10 "good enough" items, you can just run your own shop. ie dongchun's shopor i can list your items for free in my shop, but it doesn't really get any traffic. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) I can't find your shop! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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May 22 2014, 20:00
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malkatmp
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 30-April 12

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QUOTE(darkx @ May 22 2014, 19:40)  QUOTE(malkatmp @ May 22 2014, 19:29)  or i can list your items for free in my shop, but it doesn't really get any traffic. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) I can't find your shop! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) i wasn't joking about the "it doesn't really get any traffic." part. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) generally, i don't have anything worthwhile to sell combined that with i'm horrible at making up prices. it doesn't get any customers. i'm also too lazy to bump it everyday. so most of the time it ends up on pg4-6, whenever i'm desperate for credits, i'll restock a bit & give it a bump. iirc, currently it's on pg4. it's also listed in my signature too.
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May 22 2014, 20:12
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darkx
Group: Members
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Joined: 3-December 06

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QUOTE(malkatmp @ May 22 2014, 14:00)  I can't find your shop! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) i wasn't joking about the "it doesn't really get any traffic." part. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) generally, i don't have anything worthwhile to sell combined that with i'm horrible at making up prices. it doesn't get any customers. i'm also too lazy to bump it everyday. so most of the time it ends up on pg4-6, whenever i'm desperate for credits, i'll restock a bit & give it a bump. iirc, currently it's on pg4. it's also listed in my signature too. I shall consider your generous offer (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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May 22 2014, 20:15
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 24,317
Joined: 18-January 07

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QUOTE(malkatmp @ May 22 2014, 20:00)  generally, i don't have anything worthwhile to sell combined that with i'm horrible at making up prices. it doesn't get any customers. i'm also too lazy to bump it everyday. so most of the time it ends up on pg4-6, whenever i'm desperate for credits, i'll restock a bit & give it a bump.
somehow it doesn't seem so new of a condition (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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May 22 2014, 20:42
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dnbdave
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(jenga201 @ May 21 2014, 15:56)  My advice is.. stick to lvl 5 of some potency for your IW's.
Potency lvl 5 ~0-50 shards. Potency lvl 5 with no single type of potency (swift strike?) ~50-200 shards Potency with only 2 types ~possible/impossible? you tell me
Went out and pre-emptively bought x100 amnesias to reset the rapier and get butcher 5 on it again. It was IW9 before but so many bindings on it pushed max and got cold strike, of all damn things. Anyway it was surprising that it only took 20 to get b5 on it. Jenga must've had a lucky window yesterday. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Not sure I care really about what other potencies unlock on it. Need to finish upgrading it before I IW it back to level 9. Forge level 49 now, so almost done grinding that too. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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