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post May 22 2014, 06:39
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ May 22 2014, 12:24) *

So I just ran all 3 SG with elemental infusion by accident, speed is exactly the same as with holy/dark infusion

I reckon there's really no point to paying extra money for demonic weapon (hallowed is somewhat justifiable, cos of the cure bonus) or holy/dark infusion/strike, is there?

The extra money should pay for the internet. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post May 22 2014, 06:43
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ May 22 2014, 13:24) *

So I just ran SG with elemental infusion by accident, speed is exactly the same as with holy/dark infusion

I reckon there's really no point to paying extra money for demonic weapon (hallowed is somewhat justifiable, cos of the cure bonus) or holy/dark infusion, is there?

Well, this is just my case, I tested a month ago on DwD.

1. Demonic rapier + no infusion + only using normal hit (not ever using OFC and 1H skills)
- 62:30 (4 mana pot + 5 sp pot)

2. Demonic rapier + holy infusion + only using normal hit (not ever using OFC and 1H skills)
- 56:15 (5 mana pot + 4 sp pot)

3. Demonic rapier + wind infusion + only using normal hit (not ever using OFC and 1H skills)
- 58:44 (4 mana pot + 5 sp pot)

4. Demonic rapier + no infusion + using OFC and 1H skills
- 52:58 (3 mana pot + 2 sp pot)

5. Demonic rapier + holy infusion + using OFC and 1H skills
- 50:31 (4 mana pot + 2 sp pot)

6. Demonic rapier + wind infusion + using OFC and 1H skills
- 51:10 (3 mana pot + 2 sp pot)

Eh... maybe not a meaningful data. Sorry... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
It would be more precise and meaningful if I have elemental rapier which has almost same WD with my demonic rapier.
But at least, the record is saying that when you use OFC and 1H skill, more strike has no much differences regardless of holy and wind as expected.
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post May 22 2014, 06:53
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post May 22 2014, 07:07
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QUOTE(Cats Lover @ May 22 2014, 12:43) *

Well, this is just my case, I tested a month ago on DwD.

1. Demonic rapier + no infusion + only using normal hit (not ever using OFC and 1H skills)
- 62:30 (4 mana pot + 5 sp pot)

2. Demonic rapier + holy infusion + only using normal hit (not ever using OFC and 1H skills)
- 56:15 (5 mana pot + 4 sp pot)

3. Demonic rapier + wind infusion + only using normal hit (not ever using OFC and 1H skills)
- 58:44 (4 mana pot + 5 sp pot)

4. Demonic rapier + no infusion + using OFC and 1H skills
- 52:58 (3 mana pot + 2 sp pot)

5. Demonic rapier + holy infusion + using OFC and 1H skills
- 50:31 (4 mana pot + 2 sp pot)

6. Demonic rapier + wind infusion + using OFC and 1H skills
- 51:10 (3 mana pot + 2 sp pot)

Eh... maybe not a meaningful data. Sorry... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
It would be more precise and meaningful if I have elemental rapier which has almost same WD with my demonic rapier.
But at least, the record is saying that when you use OFC and 1H skill, more strike has no much differences regardless of holy and wind as expected.

I like electric more than wind. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
BTW, the network condition is far more important than the elemental strike IMO.
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post May 22 2014, 07:20
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QUOTE(Colman @ May 22 2014, 14:07) *

BTW, the network condition is far more important than the elemental strike IMO.

Yep. Fortunately, the network was stable (2.0 turn/sec) during the 1-week test. So it's trustworthy one at least for me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
In fact I tested it because I'm recently too lazy to use OFC and skills on DwD so want to do it using only normal hits.
And I'm satisfied with a hour by normal hits (just mouse up & down) + elemental infusion, watching animation. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post May 22 2014, 07:24
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QUOTE(Cats Lover @ May 22 2014, 14:43) *

Well, this is just my case, I tested a month ago on DwD.

1. Demonic rapier + no infusion + only using normal hit (not ever using OFC and 1H skills)
- 62:30 (4 mana pot + 5 sp pot)

2. Demonic rapier + holy infusion + only using normal hit (not ever using OFC and 1H skills)
- 56:15 (5 mana pot + 4 sp pot)

3. Demonic rapier + wind infusion + only using normal hit (not ever using OFC and 1H skills)
- 58:44 (4 mana pot + 5 sp pot)

4. Demonic rapier + no infusion + using OFC and 1H skills
- 52:58 (3 mana pot + 2 sp pot)

5. Demonic rapier + holy infusion + using OFC and 1H skills
- 50:31 (4 mana pot + 2 sp pot)

6. Demonic rapier + wind infusion + using OFC and 1H skills
- 51:10 (3 mana pot + 2 sp pot)

Eh... maybe not a meaningful data. Sorry... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
It would be more precise and meaningful if I have elemental rapier which has almost same WD with my demonic rapier.
But at least, the record is saying that when you use OFC and 1H skill, more strike has no much differences regardless of holy and wind as expected.


As for me, both holy+dark and fire+cold cleared DwD in 66mins. I can't really test around much since my internet is too unstable for consistency.

QUOTE(MidNightPass @ May 22 2014, 14:53) *

The only drawback of one handed: efficiency.

It has very high cost efficiency though, being able to do hard runs with significantly less investment (in forging) than other styles

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post May 22 2014, 10:15
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post May 22 2014, 10:16
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QUOTE(Mikey_Mike @ May 22 2014, 16:15) *

How many amnesia shards does it take to reset an item level from 10 to 0

10 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post May 22 2014, 10:41
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Okay thanks
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post May 22 2014, 17:51
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Who has the best proxy selling service? Not talking about auctions, just selling stuff in a shop
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post May 22 2014, 18:51
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QUOTE(darkx @ May 22 2014, 08:51) *

Who has the best proxy selling service? Not talking about auctions, just selling stuff in a shop


Arialinnoc sells equipment on a consignment basis, I believe Colman has sold his stuff through him/her.
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post May 22 2014, 19:18
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QUOTE(zen_zen @ May 23 2014, 00:51) *

Arialinnoc sells equipment on a consignment basis, I believe Colman has sold his stuff through him/her.

I have only tried his proxy auction, but never the proxy shop.
BTW, the best proxy shop does not exist. You need to ask the shop owner to see who is willing to sell stuff for you.

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post May 22 2014, 19:29
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QUOTE(darkx @ May 22 2014, 17:51) *

Who has the best proxy selling service? Not talking about auctions, just selling stuff in a shop


imo, if you just have a few items to sell, you can just advertise them in your signature. if you're somewhat active it can be more effective than running a smallish-shop. ie a walking billboard. if you've 5-10 "good enough" items, you can just run your own shop. ie dongchun's shop

or i can list your items for free in my shop, but it doesn't really get any traffic. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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post May 22 2014, 19:40
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QUOTE(Colman @ May 22 2014, 13:18) *

I have only tried his proxy auction, but never the proxy shop.
BTW, the best proxy shop does not exist. You need to ask the shop owner to see who is willing to sell stuff for you.


Guess I'll ask around

QUOTE(malkatmp @ May 22 2014, 13:29) *

imo, if you just have a few items to sell, you can just advertise them in your signature. if you're somewhat active it can be more effective than running a smallish-shop. ie a walking billboard. if you've 5-10 "good enough" items, you can just run your own shop. ie dongchun's shop

or i can list your items for free in my shop, but it doesn't really get any traffic. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


I can't find your shop! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post May 22 2014, 20:00
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QUOTE(darkx @ May 22 2014, 19:40) *

QUOTE(malkatmp @ May 22 2014, 19:29) *

or i can list your items for free in my shop, but it doesn't really get any traffic. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


I can't find your shop! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)


i wasn't joking about the "it doesn't really get any traffic." part. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

generally, i don't have anything worthwhile to sell combined that with i'm horrible at making up prices. it doesn't get any customers. i'm also too lazy to bump it everyday. so most of the time it ends up on pg4-6, whenever i'm desperate for credits, i'll restock a bit & give it a bump.

iirc, currently it's on pg4. it's also listed in my signature too.
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post May 22 2014, 20:12
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ May 22 2014, 14:00) *

I can't find your shop! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
i wasn't joking about the "it doesn't really get any traffic." part. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

generally, i don't have anything worthwhile to sell combined that with i'm horrible at making up prices. it doesn't get any customers. i'm also too lazy to bump it everyday. so most of the time it ends up on pg4-6, whenever i'm desperate for credits, i'll restock a bit & give it a bump.

iirc, currently it's on pg4. it's also listed in my signature too.


I shall consider your generous offer (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post May 22 2014, 20:15
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ May 22 2014, 20:00) *

generally, i don't have anything worthwhile to sell combined that with i'm horrible at making up prices. it doesn't get any customers. i'm also too lazy to bump it everyday. so most of the time it ends up on pg4-6, whenever i'm desperate for credits, i'll restock a bit & give it a bump.

somehow it doesn't seem so new of a condition (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post May 22 2014, 20:20
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 22 2014, 20:15) *

somehow it doesn't seem so new of a condition (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


i guess my shop is lacking the 3 essential Bs in life. Boobs, Babes & Bears. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post May 22 2014, 20:26
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ May 22 2014, 20:20) *

i guess my shop is lacking the 3 essential Bs in life. Boobs, Babes & Bears. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

i only meant that my shop lacks visitors too even with boobs and bears, nothing against yours eh... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

btw, 3PAB exq power at 5k like similar with only 1PAB? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
and how come you aren't able to sell the former? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post May 22 2014, 20:42
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QUOTE(jenga201 @ May 21 2014, 15:56) *

My advice is.. stick to lvl 5 of some potency for your IW's.

Potency lvl 5 ~0-50 shards.
Potency lvl 5 with no single type of potency (swift strike?) ~50-200 shards
Potency with only 2 types ~possible/impossible? you tell me


Went out and pre-emptively bought x100 amnesias to reset the rapier and get butcher 5 on it again. It was IW9 before but so many bindings on it pushed max and got cold strike, of all damn things. Anyway it was surprising that it only took 20 to get b5 on it. Jenga must've had a lucky window yesterday. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Not sure I care really about what other potencies unlock on it. Need to finish upgrading it before I IW it back to level 9. Forge level 49 now, so almost done grinding that too. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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