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Feb 3 2011, 19:44
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Frith
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If I cast Silence on a boss and then cast Weaken it immediately causes Silence to expire, so it seems I can only have one deprecating spell active at a time. Is the reason for this because of my low deprecating proficiency (0.92)?
I only ever use deprecating spells on bosses, since it seems pointless to cast them on an enemy that's going to die after one or two attacks. Are there any deprecating spells that would be useful in the itemworld/grindfest that I could use to increase my proficiency?
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Feb 3 2011, 19:48
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buktore
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Feb 3 2011, 20:12
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Frith
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QUOTE(buktore @ Feb 3 2011, 17:48)  Ah, thanks for the link. This is...a problem. Since switching to cloth armour I've been taking a lot of physical damage from the bosses and end up wasting all my MP curing myself. I was hoping to Silence and Weaken them or Silence and Blind them but it seems neither combination is possible. Looks like I'll have to find another solution. I'll try Shadow Veil, but it never seems to give that much benefit. This post has been edited by Frith: Feb 3 2011, 20:13
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Feb 3 2011, 20:43
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xlee
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hi all experts, after the latest update, what is the best method to kill the legendary and above monsters? i tried using DW with main hand: Superior AxeOffhand: Average Rapierall my armor is cloth i killed Konata using scroll of haste,infusions of storm, scroll of gods, greater mana potions + spirit potions, spirit attack (arnd 1300dmg per hit), weaken, bewilder, poison. PA + poison is useless, my poison only hit Konota for 40+ dmg and wind magic is also useless (arnd 150+dmg) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) my melee attack hit arnd 130+dmg without PA, and with PA arnd 200+dmg.. is all the above normal? or am i missing something? my stats with DW: FYI, originally i am a mage but due to PA + magic is useless, i tried DW (my 2nd best option) or should i try mage instead.. my staff: Ebony staffplease advise.. cos i am planning to take on Mikuru next.. thank you.
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Feb 3 2011, 20:55
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hyl
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QUOTE(xlee @ Feb 3 2011, 19:43)  hi all experts, after the latest update, what is the best method to kill the legendary and above monsters? i tried using DW with main hand: Superior AxeOffhand: Average Rapierall my armor is cloth i killed Konata using scroll of haste,infusions of storm, scroll of gods, greater mana potions + spirit potions, spirit attack (arnd 1300dmg per hit), weaken, bewilder, poison. PA + poison is useless, my poison only hit Konota for 40+ dmg and wind magic is also useless (arnd 150+dmg) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) my melee attack hit arnd 130+dmg without PA, and with PA arnd 200+dmg.. is all the above normal? or am i missing something? my stats with DW: FYI, originally i am a mage but due to PA + magic is useless, i tried DW (my 2nd best option) or should i try mage instead.. my staff: Ebony staffplease advise.. cos i am planning to take on Mikuru next.. thank you. Regardless that pa and poison doesn't work, you will need to use poison. Because it lower the shield ratings of monsters now. Not to mention, you slow down their mp and sp regen. You have the option of going to dual wield her or mage her (slightly harder, but still possible) But what you are using now seems to be a strange combination of both, which doesn't work that well. Either you should get a full silk set and ditch the owl or if you are going to pure mage the legendaries get an elemental gear or divine gear (incase of the other 3 legendaries) and ditch the rapier and axe. Also regardless what method you are trying , get some infusions. They increase the damage decently (nice damage boost for melee or elemental rating for mages) This post has been edited by hyl: Feb 3 2011, 20:56
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Feb 4 2011, 09:36
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BenderBRodriguez
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infusions work for mages as well? does it matter which spell you cast or are they all made the same elem?
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Feb 4 2011, 09:52
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vean
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QUOTE(BenderBRodriguez @ Feb 4 2011, 09:36)  infusions work for mages as well? does it matter which spell you cast or are they all made the same elem?
Of crouse the right infusion spell of your spell elemental. Very useful, it's +50% elemental rating. For most bosses I carry 2 kinds of infusions: 1 for attack, 1 for defense. Somebody said that elemental rating from infusions is effective when you hit by their spirit attack...If that's true that means +25% extra mitigations.
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Feb 4 2011, 11:01
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xlee
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QUOTE(hyl @ Feb 4 2011, 02:55)  Also regardless what method you are trying , get some infusions. They increase the damage decently (nice damage boost for melee or elemental rating for mages)
hum.... which means now the most effective method is using infusions + PA for maximum dmg... by the way, does my spirit attack gains the property of my infusion?? if yes, then infusions + PA + spirit attack might work very well... thank you.
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Feb 4 2011, 11:06
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hyl
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not sure, but i don't think it effects spirit attacks
edit:i meant changing the element
This post has been edited by hyl: Feb 4 2011, 11:07
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Feb 4 2011, 11:33
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Rakanishu
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QUOTE(cmal @ Feb 1 2011, 23:31)  Not anymore. A small group of us got it up to its current state and added a ton of info, but most of us have since stopped. Not like anyone reads the damn thing, anyway.
While I can see how the Godslayers won't often look at the wikia, it's a boon for us new players. So thanks & karma your way, cmal. However, the more outdated it gets, the more your statement will become true. QUOTE(Mashiro @ Feb 2 2011, 06:27)  Hello, i'm really new to all the things related to Hentaiverse...but i'm interested so i'm here asking for all the advice you can give me (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ... 1. I don't know how to improve my killing, if i use a staff and elemental magic, i get hurt badly because no shield i guess, so i tried a more defensive approach with rapier and nimble buckler for increased chances of parry, still i get hurt badly but at least i can use a pot...dunno what i'm doing wrong. 2. I explored the fire magic, which is nice but i can't use staff with such low defenses for now, and poison, which didn't work for me with its 10 dmg per turn...so which skills or path do you recommend? 3. How do you trade with other players o______o? 4. What can i do with crystals and the monster? I created one but no idea what to do apart from creating it. 5. How should i distribute my abilities? Which style is the strongest for low-medium level? One handed? Magic perhaps? Or should i aim for a longer development instead of being competitive at low levels? 6. Which type of equipment should i aim for? Nimble? Slaughter? Which levels? 7. Dunno what else but prolly what you do know i might don't know (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Thanks in advance (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) As you can see, I'm of a similar level as you. I've got two different sets and playstyles (keep all your attributes even for now) that work well: 1) Heavy armor + some light armor to reduce burden and a doublehanded mace (24% stun, 3 turns). 2) Cloth + light armor and a staff (42% ether theft, 1 turn). The first is easier to play as you pretty much click on the most dangerous target to kill it and via splash dmg everything near it. I prefer the stun over bleeds since it will very often incapacitate anything that could actually damage me for a few turns thus greatly reducing my need to heal. The second one is a mage; Inferno is still very cheap and since it hits all monsters at once quite efficient. With a high chance to proc ether theft, I can either recast Inferno cheaply or refill my mana. If you haven't understood the proc order of staves, do ask. The main difference is that I can use the melee built while being pretty much asleep and that it will take me about 5% more fights into a cakefest while the mage is a lot more fun to play. Both work well for easy item worlds and normal arenas.
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Feb 4 2011, 11:48
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dekslam
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I read the wiki and seem like if we want to kill real life we need soul magic,right??
Last update cause PA useless for mage then what is the method to kill god???
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Feb 4 2011, 11:58
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vean
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QUOTE(hyl @ Feb 4 2011, 11:06)  not sure, but i don't think it effects spirit attacks
edit:i meant changing the element
I know that use equip to change the mitigations works. Thats why we are buying holy, dark and soul mitigations cloth. But I don't know how the infusions works...It changes elemental rating or elemental damage? If it changes rating, there should be 25% mitigations, right?
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Feb 4 2011, 13:06
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Eutopia
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QUOTE(dekslam @ Feb 4 2011, 10:48)  I read the wiki and seem like if we want to kill real life we need soul magic,right??
Last update cause PA useless for mage then what is the method to kill god???
Just wacking it to death works perfectly well with a good bleed. This post has been edited by Eutopia: Feb 4 2011, 13:07
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Feb 4 2011, 14:19
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BenderBRodriguez
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Dont mage at lower level, there's only 2 outcome, you get slaughtered cause of interference, or you get slaughtered cause of cloth armor, get heavy gear and tank with high bleed/proc longsword, till bout 40-50, then mage, foreverrr
who can i pm to chance topic title again?
This post has been edited by BenderBRodriguez: Feb 4 2011, 16:11
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Feb 4 2011, 18:33
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dekslam
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QUOTE(Eutopia @ Feb 4 2011, 18:06)  Just wacking it to death works perfectly well with a good bleed.
bleed shortsword + rapier ??
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Feb 4 2011, 18:39
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Zero Angel
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QUOTE(dekslam @ Feb 5 2011, 00:33)  bleed shortsword + rapier ??
Axe + Rapier or Axe + Shield Don't know how good 2 Axes are with the new changes to Dual Wield. And get at least 60% Mitigation minimum.
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Feb 4 2011, 18:39
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masquepiph
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QUOTE(dekslam @ Feb 4 2011, 13:33)  bleed shortsword + rapier ??
The only reason you'd really use a rapier against them now (since PA+poison is useless) is for the parry and/or accuracy. If you have an ethereal rapier you might be able to do a tiny bit of damage, but it would probably be inconsequential. You'd be better off with a longsword (which will have much more bleed than a axe/shortsword) or axe+shield if you're taking too much damage. This post has been edited by DemonEyesBob: Feb 4 2011, 18:44
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Feb 4 2011, 20:40
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buktore
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Wasn't there's a way for low LV. mage to use staffs and kill all the Gods using only a few Spirit potions? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) You know, the one that take something, like, 2-4,000 turns before they go down... @ dekslam Offense is better than Defense against the Gods, so using high bleed Axe or Sword Chucks is better than Parry from Shortsword. As an offhand, however, isn't sounded bad, if you could find a good one, that is... Though I never test it myself, I believe the higher proc chance is worth the lower bleed damage. Or simply go 1H and use shield, since PA is almost useless now if you don't plan to whack them to death. However, I still think that DW using 2 good standard (no Eth needed) Rapiers + Infusions + 1-3 Soul Stone + Slow + Haste + Silence is still the best plan against all the Gods even if you're mage (Though against RL, Weaken+Spark route seem better), provide that your stats were not too "unbalanced". This post has been edited by buktore: Feb 4 2011, 21:41
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Feb 4 2011, 22:01
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SilentStrm
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I've got a little question: When you are looking for an item in the equip shop. till what lvl range do you search compared with your own level.
I'm currently a lvl30 tank and seeing lvl100-230 in the equip shop doesnt seem to be a valiable option to me.
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Feb 4 2011, 22:04
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Eutopia
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QUOTE(SilentStrm @ Feb 4 2011, 21:01)  I've got a little question: When you are looking for an item in the equip shop. till what lvl range do you search compared with your own level.
I'm currently a lvl30 tank and seeing lvl100-230 in the equip shop doesnt seem to be a valiable option to me.
It depends on the stats of the equipment, and how much it scales down for you. This post has been edited by Eutopia: Feb 4 2011, 22:04
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