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ah yes, forgot about the level of forge was increased from 40 to 50 for non-damage.
Magic crit chance comes on all staffs. Spell crit Damage is from Annihilator potency. Magic crit chance increases your chances to crit, and Spell crit damage increases the crit damage if your spell does crit. It's analogous to Shadowdancer suffix and Savage Prefix.

Speaking of Savage, iirc Mystic prefix gives Spell crit Damage bonus.
As for cloth armors that increases spell crit chance, well, no comment.

yes but it might not be worth it. it depends on your setup and what the base crit is on your weapon, since higher base = higher return. this is especially true for damage and crit chance.

for example, if i were to forge the crit on my rapier to the max, it'll cost me ~200 HG metals, a handful of mid grades, and 50 issacs(~2.6M total) and it'll bring the base to 12.13(a net gain of 3.2).
meanwhile 5 shadowdancer pieces will get me far more crit for the same price. less if i went with exquisites.

Ohhh thanks. It seems like there aren't many DW mainer like you beyond Lv. 300. Mostly are mages and 1H. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
So the crit. chance of both mainhand and offhand are added separately without any reduction huh?

Talking about shadowdancers......

Do they really have the same evade roll as fleet?
All the SDs I see in the auctions seem to always have very inferior evade.

Can someone link to a mmax evade shadowdancer piece to convince me?

I'd believe Fleet piece has slightly higher EVD than Shadowdancer, and by slightly I mean like <1% but it doesn't have crit. chance whatsoever which is very important to DW.

You can take a look at my legging and boot shadowdancer pieces and you can notice that sum of roughly 5% crit. chance from both of them makes them look so much better than fleet pieces of the same grade.
What's more is you only sacrifice about 3% overall EVD for that which doesn't really matter if you're DW with good parry.

I can easily clear through BT TT&T arena with my current setup. Haven't tried IWBTH yet but I guess I can still make it.

Though I'm pretty sure there aren't much DW around since DW only shines doing SGs arenas and suck so hard in IW and fest. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

This post has been edited by kos9494: Apr 26 2014, 08:35

Talking about shadowdancers......

Do they really have the same evade roll as fleet?
All the SDs I see in the auctions seem to always have very inferior evade.

Can someone link to a mmax evade shadowdancer piece to convince me?

I think SD has the same evade as fleet. I believe Jenga has a piece that clearly shows this... his boots maybe?

^^
All his gear are madly forged beyond recognition. And since we don't know the new log formula for forging........

Ohhh thanks. It seems like there aren't many DW mainer like you beyond Lv. 300. Mostly are mages and 1H. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
So the crit. chance of both mainhand and offhand are added separately without any reduction huh?
I'd believe Fleet piece has slightly higher EVD than Shadowdancer, and by slightly I mean like <1% but it doesn't have crit. chance whatsoever which is very important to DW.

You can take a look at my legging and boot shadowdancer pieces and you can notice that sum of roughly 5% crit. chance from both of them makes them look so much better than fleet pieces of the same grade.
What's more is you only sacrifice about 3% overall EVD for that which doesn't really matter if you're DW with good parry.

I can easily clear through BT TT&T arena with my current setup. Haven't tried IWBTH yet but I guess I can still make it.

Though I'm pretty sure there aren't much DW around since DW only shines doing SGs arenas and suck so hard in IW and fest. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

Well, I was talking about the equipment ranges in the wiki that claims that both SD and Fleet share the same evade roll and thus have the same max evade. (which I think is wrong unless I see a mmax evade SD).

Personally, I think good SDs are too rare and their price too retarded, thus I have never cared for them. Besides, I already carry a waki that gives me very high crit chance that completely negated any disadvantages of not having a SD.

Edit:
There may be more DW people than you think. If not, I expect our shade gear to be real cheap since mostly only DWers use shade.

1H > evade is bad
Niten > no one uses them except for brewdonkey I think (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
Mage > In the works of Noneya, they wear gay clothes
2H > pretty sure they prefer heavy armour

This post has been edited by LOL50015: Apr 26 2014, 09:16

I'd prefer an hollowed oak of heimdall. Supportive prof + more holy EDB + counter-resist = easy start

Was wondering about this as I'm gathering holy mage gear to try it out sometime down the road (read: I've been melee from day 1 so I know nothing about maging). I thought Katalox is more sought after compared to Oak, so why would Hallowed Oak of Heimdall > Hallowed Katalox of Heimdall if both staves are of equal quality and have all the right rolls?

A question to oldies:
What were the specialties of "Dragon Hide" armors?
Also, can anyone please share their Dragon Hide equipment links?

Was wondering about this as I'm gathering holy mage gear to try it out sometime down the road (read: I've been melee from day 1 so I know nothing about maging). I thought Katalox is more sought after compared to Oak, so why would Hallowed Oak of Heimdall > Hallowed Katalox of Heimdall if both staves are of equal quality and have all the right rolls?

Higher EDB and +10% Counter-resist. i should have gone all out on that oak staff in Jenga's auction.... Now it's in ban-land. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Higher EDB and +10% Counter-resist. i should have gone all out on that oak staff in Jenga's auction.... Now it's in ban-land. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

You say that, but your WTB advertises your desire for a Katalox rather than an Oak. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

You say that, but your WTB advertises your desire for a Katalox rather than an Oak. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I already have a Leg Hall Oak of Heim..... but obviously if I had that one, I wouldn't want a Kat Staff.



This post has been edited by treesloth16: Apr 26 2014, 09:49

Ohhh thanks. It seems like there aren't many DW mainer like you beyond Lv. 300. Mostly are mages and 1H. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
So the crit. chance of both mainhand and offhand are added separately without any reduction huh?
I'd believe Fleet piece has slightly higher EVD than Shadowdancer, and by slightly I mean like <1% but it doesn't have crit. chance whatsoever which is very important to DW.

You can take a look at my legging and boot shadowdancer pieces and you can notice that sum of roughly 5% crit. chance from both of them makes them look so much better than fleet pieces of the same grade.
What's more is you only sacrifice about 3% overall EVD for that which doesn't really matter if you're DW with good parry.

I can easily clear through BT TT&T arena with my current setup. Haven't tried IWBTH yet but I guess I can still make it.

Though I'm pretty sure there aren't much DW around since DW only shines doing SGs arenas and suck so hard in IW and fest. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

I think you have some wrong ideas about SG marathons, I've played DW Light (Axe/Rapier - Shade) up until about Lvl 316 and it was my frustration at not being able to break through DwD at PFUDOR that had me switching to 1H Light. At around Lvl 310, I was able to clear DwD at IWBTH (the rest of the Arena had already been cleared at PFUDOR). I then spent the next 6 levels or so trying to clear DwD at PFUDOR (which also happened to coincide with the implementation of the PFUDOR speed fix) without any luck. I thought it would be better to try something else for now instead of getting stressed out at not being able to clear the level.

While steadily gaining prof for 1H Light, I was able to acquire this Axe that I've Iw'ed and lightly forged - I hope to another Binding of Slaughter and a few more increases in the Accuracy and the Crit chance before trying DwD at PFUDOR once more. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I've been playing 1H Light (Shade) for about 10 levels and during that time I've managed to raise 1H proficiency fairly close to my Exp level. The conventional wisdom says in order to play 1H it should be coupled with Heavy armour (Power). I didn't have good enough Power gear to start playing 1H Heavy at the beginning and as my 1H proficieny steadily levelled up, I thought 1H Light was a viable option.

Almost from the beginning, playing RE at PFUDOR was possible and at prof level of about 150, I was able to play the TT&T at PFUDOR. And just a short time ago, I managed to complete End of Days at PFUDOR. I'd managed to compensate for the anemic attack that my Rapier and ADB from the Shade by spamming Weaken and Silence to prevent the SGs from activating their Spirit Attacks. It took a lot longer than malkatmp but then I always end up taking a long time to finish - I take a lot of breaks to keep myself from nodding off while playing HV.

I'd like to see how my 1H Light compares with 1H Heavy brethens, if any of you can post the screen cap of your character along with the link to the weapon, I'd appreciate it. One more thing, if you can also post the ADB stat with the mainhand weapon disarmed, I could get some idea how much of the ADB comes from your heavy armour.

Here is my character stats and the link to my weapon:

My Rapier, my ADB without the rapier is 3299.



This post has been edited by zen_zen: Apr 26 2014, 10:05

^^
All his gear are madly forged beyond recognition. And since we don't know the new log formula for forging........
Well, I was talking about the equipment ranges in the wiki that claims that both SD and Fleet share the same evade roll and thus have the same max evade. (which I think is wrong unless I see a mmax evade SD).

Personally, I think good SDs are too rare and their price too retarded, thus I have never cared for them. Besides, I already carry a waki that gives me very high crit chance that completely negated any disadvantages of not having a SD.

Edit:
There may be more DW people than you think. If not, I expect our shade gear to be real cheap since mostly only DWers use shade.

1H > evade is bad
Niten > no one uses them except for brewdonkey I think (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
Mage > In the works of Noneya, they wear gay clothes
2H > pretty sure they prefer heavy armour

Well... the roll says that they have same Max EVD but I often find most Fleet having higher EVD than SD myself (even though the equipment script says they're of the same roll level...) so I'm still under the impression that Fleet has slightly better EVD than SD. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

There are some if not many 1H + Light users around if you take a close read to the previous 50 posts. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Edited: There we have one right below us. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
I doubt 2H (except mace?) would use heavy considering they already have shitty parry... I'm a 2H myself (when playing IW) and I can't bear to use heavy. 2H is still our shade competitor (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
Niten is a little lackluster. Still, I rmb etothex saying Niten is better than even Estoc.
Here:

FYI for me, Hell: niten > scythe > estoc Nintendo: niten > estoc > scythe, BT: niten ~ estoc > don't bother w/ scythe on BT (don't really bother w/ niten either on BT), IWBTH: Niten > estoc on IWBTH but you have to use Skyward Sword, and it's not that great for the beginning rounds of Arena since you need a certain # of mobs to maintain enough OC to use Skyward sword. Better off using spirit stance, but that's still slow for the super chaosed mobs. Great for IWs. For up to Nintendo, my damage is high enough to just spirit stance through the whole thing. BT is a mash of spirit stance sometimes and skyward sword sometimes, so i avoid the hassle. Once my damage hits 8k, i'll give it another try. i need to redo my estoc to try to get some more overpowers. the +7 overpowers on my niten set makes a lot less parries. Niten's 2 weapons gives you a lot of advantages. Nice thing about estoc though is the difficulty scaling stays relatively the same. W/ the others, chaosed mobs will all of the sudden become 4x harder to kill at certain difficulties. Speed also works against bleed for low difficulty runs. You'd much rather just pour on the damage, and hope the proc takes off enough to avoid another turn.

I think you have some wrong ideas about SG marathons, I've played DW Light (Axe/Rapier - Shade) up until about Lvl 316 and it was my frustration at not being able to break through DwD at PFUDOR that had me switching to 1H Light. At around Lvl 310, I was able to clear DwD at IWBTH (the rest of the Arena had already been cleared at PFUDOR). I then spent the next 6 levels or so trying to clear DwD at PFUDOR (which also happened to coincide with the implementation of the PFUDOR speed fix) without any luck. I thought it would be better to try something else for now instead of getting stressed out at not being able to clear the level.

While steadily gaining prof for 1H Light, I was able to acquire this Axe that I've Iw'ed and lightly forged - I hope to another Binding of Slaughter and a few more increases in the Accuracy and the Crit chance before trying DwD at PFUDOR once more. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

1H Light is a lot safer than DW Light so of course... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
Though I don't bother doing PF except REs and first half page of the arena so I might end up like you soon.

This post has been edited by kos9494: Apr 26 2014, 10:49

1H Light is a lot safer than DW Light so of course... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

1h light with club (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

sure, you can always play safe, but dont expect to be done with all arenas pfudor untill next dawn, or even have time to do anything else. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

also, the more serious you get about HV the less fun it does to play. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

^^
All his gear are madly forged beyond recognition. And since we don't know the new log formula for forging........
Well, I was talking about the equipment ranges in the wiki that claims that both SD and Fleet share the same evade roll and thus have the same max evade. (which I think is wrong unless I see a mmax evade SD).

here is Jenga's gauntlets. if you back calculate the evade stat, it comes out to be base stat= 5.633 > 5.25Mmax, but <5.76Legmax.

wow, that's a pretty awesome sig, Alazif (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This post has been edited by treesloth16: Apr 26 2014, 10:47

I've been playing 1H Light (Shade) for about 10 levels and during that time I've managed to raise 1H proficiency fairly close to my Exp level. The conventional wisdom says in order to play 1H it should be coupled with Heavy armour (Power). I didn't have good enough Power gear to start playing 1H Heavy at the beginning and as my 1H proficieny steadily levelled up, I thought 1H Light was a viable option.

Almost from the beginning, playing RE at PFUDOR was possible and at prof level of about 150, I was able to play the TT&T at PFUDOR. And just a short time ago, I managed to complete End of Days at PFUDOR. I'd managed to compensate for the anemic attack that my Rapier and ADB from the Shade by spamming Weaken and Silence to prevent the SGs from activating their Spirit Attacks. It took a lot longer than malkatmp but then I always end up taking a long time to finish - I take a lot of breaks to keep myself from nodding off while playing HV.

I'd like to see how my 1H Light compares with 1H Heavy brethens, if any of you can post the screen cap of your character along with the link to the weapon, I'd appreciate it. One more thing, if you can also post the ADB stat with the mainhand weapon disarmed, I could get some idea how much of the ADB comes from your heavy armour.

Here is my character stats and the link to my weapon:

My Rapier, my ADB without the rapier is 3299.

since our level are pretty close & you called me out, i guess i'll post my stats. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
though, i'd imagine there's some people with better stuff.



myrapier, ADB without the rapier is 4364. though, i generally use 2 featherweight shards to get about 1%more crits & 5.5% evade.

~113 interference & 74 burden.



This post has been edited by malkatmp: Apr 26 2014, 10:57

1h light with club (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

sure, you can always play safe, but dont expect to be done with all arenas pfudor untill next dawn, or even have time to do anything else. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

also, the more serious you get about HV the less fun it does to play. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

Yes, with my barely SMax+ rapier, it's going to be tough doing M2 let alone M3 at PF. I might be able to get through M2 if I don't forget to spam Weaken and Silence on the SGs but it's going to take a long time. As for M3, I think I am going to have get Spirit Theft if I hope to have a at clearing it, but do I want to spend forever and a day doing so? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

I hear you - the Easter Coin Hunt, the first couple of days was kind of fun but the rest of the week was becoming a drudgery. Still the 2 slaughter bindings in my axe was the direct result from the coins, so it was more productive week or so than usual. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

A question to oldies:
What were the specialties of "Dragon Hide" armors?
Also, can anyone please share their Dragon Hide equipment links?

high resist if i remember correct, but since they are all old equips it shouldn't be easy to compare with actual ones, you should find come equally old leather armors...

since our level are pretty close & you called me out, i guess i'll post my stats. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
though, i'd imagine there's some people with better stuff.



myrapier, ADB without the rapier is 4364. though, i generally use 2 featherweight shards to get about 1%more crits & 5.5% evade.

~113 interference & 74 burden.

Good grief, you barehanded has more ADB than myself armed. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

That's a nice rapier you have there, I've been looking for a Hallowed Rapier of Slaughter (that heal bonus must be handy at tiems) for a while with better ADB than my current one but no luck so far.

I should start using my Featherweight shards too instead of just slowly growing larger and collecting dust. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Thanks for your post,

I'd like to see how my 1H Light compares with 1H Heavy brethens, if any of you can post the screen cap of your character along with the link to the weapon, I'd appreciate it. One more thing, if you can also post the ADB stat with the mainhand weapon disarmed, I could get some idea how much of the ADB comes from your heavy armour.

Lv 418, 1H Heavy
AD with rapier: 9546
AD without rapier: 7461

Sorry for not being able to upload screenshot atm

Also, can anyone please share their Dragon Hide equipment links?

Some old DH from my collection:

Average Bronze-Adorned Dragon Hide Boots of the Frost Born
Superior Dragon Hide Breastplate of Protection
Exquisite Dragon Hide Leggings of Negation