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Apr 17 2014, 16:18
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(kos9494 @ Apr 17 2014, 16:04)  Is it just me or you guys forgot the always-saves-your-ass Mace Club? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) i only started with the thinking he wanted to go with double bleeding wound, but already told him that also a club could be viable (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Apr 17 2014, 16:51
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Hahhaa
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Watching bleeding wound stack and let monster bleed to death was fun. At low level anyway. At high level, every turn monster alive means risk. Especially when their mana and spirit bar getting full. I would rather kill asap or stun for safety.
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Apr 17 2014, 17:06
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Drakewyn
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QUOTE(kuro009 @ Apr 17 2014, 00:21)  A question to Level 300+ players: Around how many trophies do you usually get from a single DWD run?
4 hair, 2, 7 & 3 of the others on my last run (Hard difficulty). If you want trophies, the other two runs actually seem better...
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Apr 17 2014, 17:17
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holy_demon
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QUOTE(Hahhaa @ Apr 18 2014, 00:51)  Watching bleeding wound stack and let monster bleed to death was fun. At low level anyway. At high level, every turn monster alive means risk. Especially when their mana and spirit bar getting full. I would rather kill asap or stun for safety.
weapons with bleeding wound happen to have the highest ADB -> faster kill (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) And rapier is only faster than axe in SGs QUOTE(Drakewyn @ Apr 18 2014, 01:06)  4 hair, 2, 7 & 3 of the others on my last run (Hard difficulty).
If you want trophies, the other two runs actually seem better...
That's weird, I got like 1 trophies every 3 rounds (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) This post has been edited by holy_demon: Apr 17 2014, 17:18
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Apr 17 2014, 17:35
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malkatmp
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Apr 17 2014, 17:17)  That's weird, I got like 1 trophies every 3 rounds (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) i think it's useless without knowing what difficulty or kind training we have. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)edit: currently, we've a range of answers from 10 SG trophies to 1 every 3 rds (~30?). also, didn't know the trophy drop is a static 10%. This post has been edited by malkatmp: Apr 17 2014, 17:41
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Apr 17 2014, 17:37
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Cats Lover
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DwD has 224 SGs and wiki says that the chance is static 10%. (except last round) I also get 20~ trophies on average.
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Apr 17 2014, 17:56
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Hahhaa @ Apr 17 2014, 16:51)  Watching bleeding wound stack and let monster bleed to death was fun. At low level anyway. At high level, every turn monster alive means risk. Especially when their mana and spirit bar getting full. I would rather kill asap or stun for safety.
yep, surely is funny, but remember that every monster has 2MP and 1SP attack, and all of them can be processed as long as mob is alive (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Apr 17 2014, 18:02
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kos9494
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QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ Apr 17 2014, 22:09)  I remember, I was just about to order one, but somebody beat me to it.
And who was that someone? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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Apr 17 2014, 18:08
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Colman
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QUOTE(LostLogia4 @ Apr 17 2014, 22:09)  Started collecting hallowed phase equips, and acquiring better DW pair as well from the recommendation from this thread. My DW prof have approached 41 lately.
Now that my level gains from PFUDOR RE started to slow to a screeching halt, I've starting to consider taking on the Arenas at higher difficulty... but before that, should I train the hallowed mage setup or just DW through the End of Days arena...? these schoolgirls takes forever to kill...
I remember, I was just about to order one, but somebody beat me to it.
Magnificent Tempestuous Club of Slaughterinterested? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Apr 17 2014, 18:12
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Colman @ Apr 17 2014, 18:08)  not half bad i'd say... QUOTE(holy_demon @ Apr 17 2014, 17:17)  weapons with bleeding wound happen to have the highest ADB -> faster kill (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) And rapier is only faster than axe in SGs so axes are better than rapiers on every non-SG run, am i wrong?
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Apr 17 2014, 18:14
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Colman
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 18 2014, 00:12)  so axes are better than rapiers on every non-SG run, am i wrong?
It depend on how high is your damage. If you can kill each enemy within 4 hits in average, axe is better. You have no time to stack PA anyway. In addition, Axe work very well with OFC. You can pretty much one shot everything besides boss+ in spirit stance. BTW, the bleeding is useless............... really need some buff, or people will forget bleed give damage. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) This post has been edited by Colman: Apr 17 2014, 18:19
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Apr 17 2014, 18:17
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Colman @ Apr 17 2014, 18:14)  It depend on how high is your damage.
4500 (ethereal) axe vs. 4150 rapier tried just now on 8-mobs RE on IWTBH and it doesn't seem all that good to me... i'd better try on a IW to be sure QUOTE(Colman @ Apr 17 2014, 18:14)  If you can kill each enemy within 4 hits in average, axe is better. You have no time to stack PA anyway.
maybe the weakest ones (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) on an average vase, i can stack PA almost always, even if for only 1 round. is it something troubling? QUOTE(Colman @ Apr 17 2014, 18:14)  BTW, the bleeding is useless............... really need some buff, or people will forget bleed give damage. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) not so useless, countless times i had to give a mob another hit when he had only 500/1000 HP left (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) This post has been edited by Scremaz: Apr 17 2014, 18:20
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Apr 17 2014, 18:19
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kawaiikun
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Hi these are my stats right now, what should i improve, i use heavy armor, and i'm two handed, should i start leveling other proficiency or im fine like that? (IMG:[ puu.sh] http://puu.sh/8cpve.png) what should i be getting for future levels? Thanks for your answer
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Apr 17 2014, 18:21
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Colman
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QUOTE(kawaiikun @ Apr 18 2014, 00:19)  Hi these are my stats right now, what should i improve, i use heavy armor, and i'm two handed, should i start leveling other proficiency or im fine like that?
//http://puu.sh/8cpve.png what should i be getting for future levels?
Thanks for your answer
Level the character until you have most of the magic and ability first (~250). Proficiency is useless without the relevant ability . This post has been edited by Colman: Apr 17 2014, 18:22
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Apr 17 2014, 18:22
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malkatmp
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 17 2014, 18:12)  not half bad i'd say... so axes are better than rapiers on every non-SG run, am i wrong?
imo, you're constantly balancing Safety & Damage. at a certain pt, when you feel you're "safe" enough or too safe(ie only using 3-6 mana potions for most non-SG arenas), then it's time to sacrifice some safety for damage. currently, i'm toying with this axe for now. the Trio of the Tree @PF is manageable, but i could use more safety (maybe time for a shield upgrade then forging). lastly, if you don't have that much time to play, it's fun/fast to clear the whole 1st page arena in <45mins. ps. it's about 15% less parry for ~600 more damage. This post has been edited by malkatmp: Apr 17 2014, 18:25
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Apr 17 2014, 18:24
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(kawaiikun @ Apr 17 2014, 18:19)  Hi these are my stats right now, what should i improve, i use heavy armor, and i'm two handed, should i start leveling other proficiency or im fine like that?
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what should i be getting for future levels?
Thanks for your answer
your stats seem quite fine, but you could start searching for a mace, even just for fun/try it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) you may also try to raise your level until Hell or Nightmare to have more bonus and leveling faster... also, cast some weakens every now and then just to raise your depre prof little by little, it will avoid you to use a couple of days spamming it only to have silence later... QUOTE(malkatmp @ Apr 17 2014, 18:22)  ps. it's about 15% less parry for ~600 more damage.
similar here, 12% parry in exchange for 350 damage+void damage. maybe i should only IW10 my rapier to have void strike and go with it... This post has been edited by Scremaz: Apr 17 2014, 18:29
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Apr 17 2014, 18:31
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kos9494
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QUOTE(Colman @ Apr 18 2014, 00:08)  Omfg that ADB... If it were Ethereal I wud;ve bought it from you. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) QUOTE(kawaiikun @ Apr 18 2014, 00:19)  Hi these are my stats right now, what should i improve, i use heavy armor, and i'm two handed, should i start leveling other proficiency or im fine like that? (IMG:[ puu.sh] http://puu.sh/8cpve.png) what should i be getting for future levels? Thanks for your answer Omfg, you must have done a lot of GF to get that amount of prof. Back then when I was your level none of my prof. went over 60. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Btw, you really should level yourself. I rmb I was like 30 levels behind you less than a week ago... (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) This post has been edited by kos9494: Apr 17 2014, 18:32
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Apr 17 2014, 18:39
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kawaiikun
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Apr 17 2014, 11:24)  your stats seem quite fine, but you could start searching for a mace, even just for fun/try it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) you may also try to raise your level until Hell or Nightmare to have more bonus and leveling faster... also, cast some weakens every now and then just to raise your depre prof little by little, it will avoid you to use a couple of days spamming it only to have silence later... similar here, 12% parry in exchange for 350 damage+void damage. maybe i should only IW10 my rapier to have void strike and go with it... Lol im doing all that stuff right now, so i think im doing pretty good Thanks (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Apr 17 2014, 19:08
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GodHandZaWarudo
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Should I go ahead and use all trophies I get now, or save them for later levels, and if so what levels and which shrine item should I go for?
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