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Whether you wear Shadowdancer or Fleet, they are both Shade and as such you will get the full Light Armour bonus if you equip with a mixture of any Shade and/or any Leather armour. The only advantage of Shadowdancer over Fleet is that it has a small amount of crit chance which you will pay dearly for over Fleet. Frankly imo, it's still too early for you to be wearing Shade. A Mag/Leg set of protection Leather will keep you alive far better than any Shade set can, enabling you to fight harder and longer, albeit slower.

Berserker style, how do you define Berserker style? If it's maximum damage, DW with an Axe and a Rapier does more damage than any other HV melee style. 1H Heavy is in vogue now because it's safest even though it's slow compared to other style.

Finding a nice Ethereal Slaughter Estoc is like looking for a needle in a haystack but if you have the credits almost anything can be obtained in the WTS.

Well, hitting hard while not relying on defense and instead using evasion and speed is what I mean by Berserker, instead of being a tank using heavy armor.

I really like 2H, so I wanna do a Berserker style while using a 2H, even if DW would probably be better damage wise.

Though I do intend to at some point go for Niten, but that's probably going to be later down the line.

This post has been edited by GodHandZaWarudo: Apr 15 2014, 10:32

Well, hitting hard while not relying on defense and instead using evasion and speed is what I mean by Berserker, instead of being a tank using heavy armor.

I really like 2H, so I wanna do a Berserker style while using a 2H, even if DW would probably be better damage wise.

Though I do intend to at some point go for Niten, but that's probably going to be later down the line.

DW Axe + Axe + Power Slaughter is the ultimate Berserker, ADB to the max (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

DW Axe + Axe + Power Slaughter is the ultimate Berserker, ADB to the max (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

DW heavy is suicide.

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DW Axe + Axe + Power Slaughter is the ultimate Berserker, ADB to the max (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Yeah, I'd never thought about that combo. Maybe I'll try one of the page 1 arena at PF.

Nope, it's no bloody good! No Parry or PA with the Axe' damage being halved as an offhand means applying cure about every 3 turns. Oh yeah, I was wearing Shades, maybe you should try it with your Power gear.

This post has been edited by zen_zen: Apr 15 2014, 11:26

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Berserker style is suicide. Lack of defense in HV is very bad right now, even glasscannon mage has to forge a fuckton of evade if they want to do PFUDOR

DW + non slaughter Power is actually viable though (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

This post has been edited by holy_demon: Apr 15 2014, 11:17

I have questions about DW style.
Am I right that it's considered faster than 2h mace?

What combinations of weapons are the most popular?

I know that PABs are just added together, and that different procs are counted in entirely separate fashion. but what about crit chance, crit damage, overpower potency and the like? Does they influence both weapons, or counted separately (and in the case of the off-hand weapon only used when off-hand strike have been triggered)?

DW is faster than Mace, but certainly not safer...

DW is faster than Mace, but certainly not safer...

I remember reading some veterans' posts arguing that once your armors reach certain quality through IW and forging using DW / Mace doesn't matter anymore as your Evade chances are high like fuck. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Yeah, I'd never thought about that combo. Maybe I'll try one of the page 1 arena at PF.

Nope, it's no bloody good! No Parry or PA with the Axe' damage being halved as an offhand means applying cure about every 3 turns. Oh yeah, I was wearing Shades, maybe you should try it with your Power gear.

just tried out Axe+Axe+power on a few page 1 arenas at PF.

my ABD is ~1000 more, probably ~1500 more if i hv more DW prof (~100 more) or even more with better axe. however, like you said with 0 evade/block, only <25% parry. you need to either cure constantly or bring a lot of HP potions. it's definitely Not for the long hauls.

but it's nice to "claim" i've a max 6222 ABD. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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need help, im dieing way too fast/often (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
btw whats the best way to get those easter coins? im not getting any (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

just tried out Axe+Axe+power on a few page 1 arenas at PF.

my ABD is ~1000 more, probably ~1500 more if i hv more DW prof (~100 more) or even more with better axe. however, like you said with 0 evade/block, only <25% parry. you need to either cure constantly or bring a lot of HP potions. it's definitely Not for the long hauls.

but it's nice to "claim" i've a max 6222 ABD. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Have you tried testing it in battle?
Can you 1 hit everyone?

Have you tried testing it in battle?
Can you 1 hit everyone?

yes, did the first few arenas @PF. though, i don't think it's possible to do it on End Game. maybe it's possible for 20-30rds @PF though.

& i can't 1 hit everyone even on spirit stance on crits. at most, i'm doing ~25k damage (combined) & most monsters have 100+k hp.

need help, im dieing way too fast/often (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
btw whats the best way to get those easter coins? im not getting any (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

don't know much about mage. also, it might be more useful to post your equipment than your stat screen.

maybe it' just me, but i think 10B lower the coin drop rates. on the first day, it's dropping like crazy, today, i'm getting a few artifacts & no coins. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

This post has been edited by malkatmp: Apr 15 2014, 12:55

I remember reading some veterans' posts arguing that once your armors reach certain quality through IW and forging using DW / Mace doesn't matter anymore as your Evade chances are high like fuck. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

You need LV400+ and 100M+ credits to achieve it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

need help, im dieing way too fast/often (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:https://forums.e-hentai.org/uploads/post-966830-1397559161.png)

*mumble* How did you managed to level all the way up to level 202 with this setup...?

Anyway, as your fellow mage, I can tell you that mages are very much are squishy: in fact, you aren't even expected to even survive in Hell difficulty at your current level (tried IWing my rapier in Hell difficulty, got thrashed a little over halfway round, but at least i got 2 Auroracoin for my trouble). From what I see, your elemental and depreciating levels are simply too low to begin with. so just stick to Normal difficulty and focus in spamming Weaken and elemental spells of your choice till you unlocked Tier 3 spells.

Also, I need the rest of your stats: equips, abilities, and training levels to help you here. You wouldn't get much of a help without disclosing all of these.

maybe it' just me, but i think 10B lower the coin drop rates. on the first day, it's dropping like crazy, today, i'm getting a few artifacts & no coins. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

You mean we totally got tipped like no tomorrow, but you certainly aren't alone on this one, cuz i certainly do notice how I get less and less coins, today I have to go deep into rounds to even get a single dime.

Has anyone tried Shortsword + Rapier yet? The double parry can make it viable :/

Has anyone tried Shortsword + Rapier yet? The double parry can make it viable :/

Tried and found it good. However, 1H power is still faster.

Has anyone tried Shortsword + Rapier yet? The double parry can make it viable :/

Why yes I do, I have tried an ethereal rapier and an ethereal wakizashi for my DW build. It worked spectacularly on PFUDOR RE for me, I managed to inflict 5 Bleeding Wound and 3 Penetrated Armor with this setup, they usually don't last more than 2 rounds after that. Remind me of my earlier days of HV back when I dual wield a pair of crude shortswords.

Tried and found it good. However, 1H power is still faster.

Are these your leg/mag grade power armors speaking your experience by any chance?

This post has been edited by LostLogia4: Apr 15 2014, 14:18

Also, I need the rest of your stats: equips, abilities, and training levels to help you here. You wouldn't get much of a help without disclosing all of these.

my two cents is that he hasn't more than one phase but at least a frugal armor and a couple of warding/protection (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
cloth MP ability seems to be slotted...
as for staff, i really hope it's an elemental suffixed/prefixed (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Apr 15 2014, 14:22

Has anyone tried Shortsword + Rapier yet? The double parry can make it viable :/

i don't know why i even tried it. i guess curiosity killed the cat. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

did 15rds@PF with the crappy Shortsword of Balance & a rapier Slaughter. still with 0 evade/block. 55% parry is barely manageable with 3 enemies, but when there's 4. fuck me. my SoL procs 4 times & i'd almost died at rd 13.

ps. got a lite coin out of this ordeal. so i guess it isn't that bad.

edit: i guess i'm doing it wrong somehow. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)



This post has been edited by malkatmp: Apr 15 2014, 14:25

did 15rds@PF with the crappy Shortsword of Balance & a rapier Slaughter. still with 0 evade/block. 55% parry is barely manageable with 3 enemies, but when there's 4. fuck me. my SoL procs 4 times & i'd almost died at rd 13.

maybe with a shortsword of nimble/swiftness...

i don't know why i even tried it. i guess curiosity killed the cat. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

did 15rds@PF with the crappy Shortsword of Balance & a rapier Slaughter. still with 0 evade/block. 55% parry is barely manageable with 3 enemies, but when there's 4. fuck me. my SoL procs 4 times & i'd almost died at rd 13.

ps. got a lite coin out of this ordeal. so i guess it isn't that bad.

edit: i guess i'm doing it wrong somehow. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Well, I'd say that the curiosity had (nearly) pwned you.
I used depreciating spells to get even for PFUDOR RE, i've even pwned "Kodou Yuki" with this setup by giving it the Penetrated Armor proc and one-shot it with OFC.
Also, DW is impractical with heavy armor when you can't evade, get light armor/shade armaments and try it again with Shadow Veil on your IA.

Btw, you have about... 5k attack power when I had around 1800... is that your power armor or did it come with Level 300 melee?

This post has been edited by LostLogia4: Apr 15 2014, 14:43