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post Jan 24 2011, 15:32
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I hear someone tell that mage have endless mana..
How do they do??? I'm suffer of use all mana(+potion) real fast. I can't get to high round at all. -*-"


At some pint you ultimately run out of mana, but buying more item slots can put up that moment for a few more rounds. Currently I have 9 slots and at times I still have some elixirs left after clearing 25 rounds of arena (even with Boss at the end of it). I assume you are a fire mage with T1 & T2 maxed, right ?

As for evade problem get some better evade gear and cast Shadow Veil. We are almost the same level, but my evade from gear is like 19,6 % + 9,4 % cause that with Shadow Veil and regent I, I almost lose no HP. The other thing is that I suffer from low number AP put in HP tank (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)...

Speaking of action speed, if Scroll of Swiftness and Haste stack, is it possible to exceed 200 action speed with both cast on me ?



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post Jan 24 2011, 15:42
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Speaking of action speed, if Scroll of Swiftness and Haste stack, is it possible to exceed 200 action speed with both cast on me ?

no you can't exceed 200 action speed, that's why i said that it was useless unless you have a huge burden thanks to heavy gear and low action speed
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post Jan 24 2011, 15:49
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So I've recently made a lot of credits due to lucky drops and I was wondering what would be the more logical action. Should I invest in training for AP or should I spam adept learner? Or should I invest in scavenger?
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post Jan 24 2011, 16:03
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I would suggest scavenger :
1) you increase you chance to get an artefact ^^
2) you also get more potions and stuff like that which you can sell later and get some money spent on it

AP you can get either from artefacts(basically for free) or training.

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post Jan 24 2011, 16:07
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So is it not worth getting adept learning this point in time?
How about luck of the draw, should I get a few levels once scavenger is too expense to level anymore?
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post Jan 24 2011, 16:27
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I didn't mean that but you have to decide what is your priority right now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif). My current level is 58/300 and I'm panning to train a few more levels in the close future, but right now I have a few other skills to train and gear to buy :/.

Luck of the draw affects gear which drops and items like potions, but if they don't drop not very often it's so-so useful IMHO.

Scavenger : 18/50
Luck of the draw : 4/25
Quartermaster : 6/20
Archaeologist : 4/10 (5/10 in training at the moment)

My order of training :
Scavenger <- Quartermaster, Archaeologist whichever I can afford <- Luck of the draw if I have nothing else affordable to training

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post Jan 24 2011, 16:34
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QUOTE(HNTI @ Jan 24 2011, 20:32) *

At some pint you ultimately run out of mana, but buying more item slots can put up that moment for a few more rounds. Currently I have 9 slots and at times I still have some elixirs left after clearing 25 rounds of arena (even with Boss at the end of it). I assume you are a fire mage with T1 & T2 maxed, right ?

As for evade problem get some better evade gear and cast Shadow Veil. We are almost the same level, but my evade from gear is like 19,6 % + 9,4 % cause that with Shadow Veil and regent I, I almost lose no HP. The other thing is that I suffer from low number AP put in HP tank (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)...

Speaking of action speed, if Scroll of Swiftness and Haste stack, is it possible to exceed 200 action speed with both cast on me ?


You really are almost the same level as me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
I'm elec(T1+T2) cold(T1) holy(T1+T2) but I mostly use elemental spell.

my evade is no good(12%) because I change my gear to elemental gear(1-3 evade) to increase damage.
but that grow bad side too. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Trainer question
Is power regen/power tank useful
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post Jan 24 2011, 16:36
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QUOTE(dekslam @ Jan 24 2011, 15:34) *

Trainer question
Is power regen/power tank useful

no
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post Jan 24 2011, 16:51
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@dekslam: I entirely focused on fire spells xP.

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my evade is no good(12%) because I change my gear to elemental gear(1-3 evade) to increase damage.
but that grow bad side too. dry.gif


I also have elem. gear, but mixed with some 2 pieces of clothes boosting my evade chance as currently I have nothing better increasing my elem. proficiency in their place.

"put up"

I meant put off... need to revise phrasal verbs, I guess (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif).
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post Jan 24 2011, 17:22
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I have a question about loot.

In IW and GF, drop quality is affected by the difficulty and depth, when I go in deeper and deeper, more godly potion and scrolls and high quality items appears...And the drop rate isn't affected by difficulty, always around 6.5%.

Now I'm level 70 and have regen, I can take these actions with 5 great + 3 superior potion:
cake GF/IW 190-200
easy GF/IW to level 150-160
normal GF/IW to level 110-120
hard GF/IW to 70-80
heroic... don't know yet, it seems too hard to me

which drop is better? Which should I choose, depth or difficulty?

Here's my loot training state
Scavenger : 12/50
Luck of the draw : 4/25
Quartermaster : 4/20
Archaeologist : 3/10
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post Jan 24 2011, 17:32
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QUOTE(vean @ Jan 24 2011, 16:22) *

I have a question about loot.

In IW and GF, drop quality is affected by the difficulty and depth, when I go in deeper and deeper, more godly potion and scrolls and high quality items appears...And the drop rate isn't affected by difficulty, always around 6.5%.

Now I'm level 70 and have regen, I can take these actions with 5 great + 3 superior potion:
cake GF/IW 190-200
easy GF/IW to level 150-160
normal GF/IW to level 110-120
hard GF/IW to 70-80
heroic... don't know yet, it seems too hard to me

which drop is better? Which should I choose, depth or difficulty?

Here's my loot training state
Scavenger : 12/50
Luck of the draw : 4/25
Quartermaster : 4/20
Archaeologist : 3/10

loot quality does indeed increase by difficulty and the number of rounds, but loot quality won't increase anymore after 100 rounds.

i guess that normal or hard seems to be the best choice if you want better items. But you will get less items though

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post Jan 24 2011, 17:40
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difficulty for quality and depth for quantity...
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post Jan 24 2011, 17:41
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QUOTE(hyl @ Jan 24 2011, 17:32) *

loot quality does indeed increase by difficulty and the number of rounds, but loot quality won't increase anymore after 100 rounds.

Seeing this, i guess that normal or hard seems to be the best choice if you want better items. But you will get less items thougj


You means...
The "Normal 100T+" / "Easy 100T+"/ "Cake 100T+" means 3 different drop quality, and "Easy 100+" will never be better than "Normal 100T+"(about X0.8, if the difficulty number is right).

Am I right?

Should I use all my scrolls/infusions from T100 to get more best drops?
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post Jan 24 2011, 17:46
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QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Jan 24 2011, 17:40) *

difficulty for quality and depth for quantity...


But a lesser health means 3C, a godly spirit means 40C^^

I want to find a balance point...first 50 turns of cake are totally rubbish time = =
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post Jan 24 2011, 17:52
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QUOTE(hentai_fusion @ Jan 24 2011, 16:40) *

difficulty for quality and depth for quantity...

he probably means if he should go for getting more items with a chance of lower quality (surviving more rounds) or go for getting less items but with possible higher quality .

In that case he is right though

QUOTE(vean @ Jan 24 2011, 16:41) *

You means...
The "Normal 100T+" / "Easy 100T+"/ "Cake 100T+" means 3 different drop quality, and "Easy 100+" will never be better than "Normal 100T+"(about X0.8, if the difficulty number is right).

Am I right?

Should I use all my scrolls/infusions from T100 to get more best drops?

I don't think that we should rule out that playing on a lower difficulty won't get you good items, but the chances are that you will find one with a higher quality is just lower.
i have found a very good superior axe with base bleed of 20 on normal 70 levels ago and even playing on heroic and hard all the time i haven't found a similar axe.

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QUOTE(hyl @ Jan 24 2011, 17:52) *

he probably means if he should go for getting more items with a chance of lower quality (surviving more rounds) or go for getting less items but with possible higher quality .

In that case he is right though
I don't think that we should rule out that playing on a lower difficulty won't get you good items, but the chances are that you will find one with a higher quality is just lower.
i have found a very good superior axe with base bleed of 20 on normal 70 levels ago and even playing on heroic and hard all the time i haven't found a similar axe.


seems normal 100T is enough

now I know how to spend my infusions and scrolls, thanks
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post Jan 24 2011, 20:40
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QUOTE(BenderBRodriguez @ Jan 24 2011, 10:03) *

edit2: does haste and scroll of swiftness does the same thing? is haste affected by prof?

QUOTE(hyl @ Jan 24 2011, 10:10) *

2: they stack, but it's pointless unless you are using tons of heavy gear with very high burden.


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Speaking of action speed, if Scroll of Swiftness and Haste stack, is it possible to exceed 200 action speed with both cast on me ?

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no you can't exceed 200 action speed, that's why i said that it was useless unless you have a huge burden thanks to heavy gear and low action speed

The Scroll doesn't stack with Haste, and neither will cancel the effects of high burden. I made a long and very dull post about it here.
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QUOTE(Sayo Aisaka @ Jan 24 2011, 19:40) *

The Scroll doesn't stack with Haste, and neither will cancel the effects of high burden. I made a long and very dull post about it here.

i thought they stacked because neither cancelled eachother, guess i was wrong about that :0
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post Jan 25 2011, 00:15
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I have a question on karma - It seems that some if not all of the strongest players all have high karma. How important is it to get positive karma and big an impact does it have on your power?
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post Jan 25 2011, 00:44
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karma doesn't do much for hentaiverse, except raising your power to make spirit attacks slightly more powerfull.
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