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Mar 12 2014, 22:59
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Owyn
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QUOTE(Colman @ Mar 12 2014, 19:23)  Get a good shield (with high block) is the most important thing for 1H. Power Slaughter is good but not a must.
but it gives hell lots of damage, one piece can give the same amount as the whole weapon lol ;p
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Mar 12 2014, 23:07
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Lement
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Then get a better weapon.
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Mar 12 2014, 23:18
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Shisatsu
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Getting a better weapon is such a pain. Mine is kind of meh, but when i try to search for a better one, they cost over 1 mil.
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Mar 12 2014, 23:58
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Lement
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Maybe, but getting a weapon with base WD over 30 shouldn't be so hard. Rapier's sup range is 21-40, so about half of them surpass it already.
This post has been edited by Lement: Mar 12 2014, 23:59
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Mar 13 2014, 00:07
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Cleavs
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so we can say that WD > 30 for a rapier is good afterall?
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Mar 13 2014, 00:18
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Shisatsu
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How can you check WD? Kind of new to all this. Last time i played was before that ability system rework.
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Mar 13 2014, 00:28
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Cleavs
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open the popup, and in it hover over the writing 'xxx Damage', it will give you the base value
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Mar 13 2014, 00:55
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Lement
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 13 2014, 00:07)  so we can say that WD > 30 for a rapier is good afterall?
No, not at all. I'm saying that if your rapier of slaughter has less WD than your power armor, it sucks something fierce, as in "can it be closer to the min damage possible for one". WD 40 is still under supmax, btw.
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Mar 13 2014, 00:55
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holy_demon
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QUOTE(Lement @ Mar 13 2014, 08:58)  Maybe, but getting a weapon with base WD over 30 shouldn't be so hard. Rapier's sup range is 21-40, so about half of them surpass it already.
Or use an axe....
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Mar 13 2014, 01:02
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Lement @ Mar 12 2014, 23:55)  No, not at all. I'm saying that if your rapier of slaughter has less WD than your power armor, it sucks something fierce, as in "can it be closer to the min damage possible for one".
WD 40 is still under supmax, btw.
lol, true enough (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) QUOTE(holy_demon @ Mar 12 2014, 23:55)  Or use an axe....
yeh, right... is it better 1H with an axe or with a rapier, btw? stun can be provided via counter-attack, so i think that what still lack is PA This post has been edited by Scremaz: Mar 13 2014, 01:03
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Mar 13 2014, 01:10
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holy_demon
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 13 2014, 10:02)  lol, true enough (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) yeh, right... is it better 1H with an axe or with a rapier, btw? stun can be provided via counter-attack, so i think that what still lack is PA if you have OFC, axe should be as fast as rapier everywhere except Schoolgirl (where PA becomes necessary). Seriously, OFC pretty much makes clearing in general with 1H so fast that forging my rapier only improves my T&T time from 25m to 20m .... However, axe lacks the parry that rapier gives, this where mixing plate/power of protection comes into play. This post has been edited by holy_demon: Mar 13 2014, 01:14
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Mar 13 2014, 01:27
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SoraNoAki
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Mar 13 2014, 00:10)  if you have OFC, axe should be as fast as rapier everywhere except Schoolgirl (where PA becomes necessary). Seriously, OFC pretty much makes clearing in general with 1H so fast that forging my rapier only improves my T&T time from 25m to 20m ....
However, axe lacks the parry that rapier gives, this where mixing plate/power of protection comes into play.
Get that legendary agile leather of protection, and you don't even need that expensive gear.
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Mar 13 2014, 01:36
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(f02d @ Mar 13 2014, 00:25)  I got 'Butcher Lv.1' in ITEM WORLD. http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=7f27fa2216Can I get 'damage upgrade' in FORGE? you can, but only because that stat existed already. you can't forge new abilities gained via item world
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Mar 13 2014, 02:12
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holy_demon
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QUOTE(SoraNoAki @ Mar 13 2014, 10:27)  Get that legendary agile leather of protection, and you don't even need that expensive gear.
Light generally doesn't go well with 1H And I'm not planning to bid for those crazily priced mace/estoc (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)
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Mar 13 2014, 03:36
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Colman
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Mar 13 2014, 08:12)  Light generally doesn't go well with 1H And I'm not planning to bid for those crazily priced mace/estoc (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) Leather isn't that bad for 1H. Though it is slow......... BTW, we are so poor that can't even win a good item in auction for months. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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Mar 13 2014, 04:32
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holy_demon
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QUOTE(Colman @ Mar 13 2014, 12:36)  Leather isn't that bad for 1H. Though it is slow......... BTW, we are so poor that can't even win a good item in auction for months. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) kill slower = monsters use more special attacks = drains more MP/SP = actually less defense (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) It's better to just stalk the WTB and equipment thread and offer the best price you're willing to pay. My rapier and my armor, for instance, weren't bought in auction.
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Mar 13 2014, 04:59
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Colman
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Mar 13 2014, 10:32)  kill slower = monsters use more special attacks = drains more MP/SP = actually less defense (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) It's better to just stalk the WTB and equipment thread and offer the best price you're willing to pay. My rapier and my armor, for instance, weren't bought in auction. The resist from leather can make the magic attack most likely do not trigger spirit shield. But the normal attack in Hellfest 900+ round give me some problem.
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Mar 13 2014, 05:18
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holy_demon
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QUOTE(Colman @ Mar 13 2014, 13:59)  The resist from leather can make the magic attack most likely do not trigger spirit shield. But the normal attack in Hellfest 900+ round give me some problem.
Try defend? I tried using defend more extensively on DwD today, and I finished it with 4 SP and 8 MP pot
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Mar 13 2014, 05:26
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malkatmp
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Mar 13 2014, 01:02)  lol, true enough (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) yeh, right... is it better 1H with an axe or with a rapier, btw? stun can be provided via counter-attack, so i think that what still lack is PA assuming no OFC, imo, if you really have to an axe will do, but a rapiers hv higher parry = more counters or less hits taken. however, Axes are a lot cheaper & higher damage. also, i've look around a bit. you can still buy a decent rapier slaughter for 50-100k. it won't be ethereal/hallowed/demonic, but for other elemental it's about that price. force shield with 37+% is about 50-100k. Exq+ Power non-slaughter is about 10-20k/pc. So another 50-100k for a full set. so you're looking at 150-300k total. though, a decent Shield is pretty important, then everything else can come latter. ps. hv anyone actually tried 1H+shade for the hellfest? i'd imagine the evade is nice, but you're doing less damage&counters. QUOTE(Colman @ Mar 13 2014, 03:36)  Leather isn't that bad for 1H. Though it is slow......... BTW, we are so poor that can't even win a good item in auction for months. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) at least, you're doing better than most of us. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) though, a guy in WTB claimed he somehow managed a 30hath/hr farm. it's hard to compete with that. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif) This post has been edited by malkatmp: Mar 13 2014, 05:31
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