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post Feb 20 2014, 00:17
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Feb 20 2014, 01:01) *

my evade is about the same, i'm 40 levels above him and still thought it was decent (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
furthermore i noted that between DW and 2H there's only 1 point difference...

2 point difference? Not sure what you mean there... If you mean attack damage, then your DW set is either terrible or your 2H is epic. I have 3209 with my 2H and shade set and 4007 with my DW and shade set
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post Feb 20 2014, 00:25
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QUOTE(animeai @ Feb 19 2014, 23:17) *

2 point difference? Not sure what you mean there... If you mean attack damage, then your DW set is either terrible or your 2H is epic. I have 3209 with my 2H and shade set and 4007 with my DW and shade set

no, i meant 1 point evade difference...
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post Feb 20 2014, 00:28
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Feb 20 2014, 01:25) *

no, i meant 1 point evade difference...

Ahhh. The main reason to change from 2H to DW etc is the different damage you'll do rather than to try and increase a stat like evade etc. 2H has domino strike which isn't bad, but doesn't have the elemental strikes etc. DW only hits a single enemy but kills them fast as you get all the elemental strikes from both weapons if your offhand hits, so you can target the most dangerous ones first instead of more slowly killing 5 at a time with domino.
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post Feb 20 2014, 00:38
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yeah, but i was still thinking about the 'low' 34% evade chance (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Feb 20 2014, 00:58
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Unless you hammer server resources the majority of hosts won't even look twice at a VPS or dedicated server until they get complaints. You are very unlikely to get complaints from H@H as it only distributes to e-hentai and g.e-hentai and isn't web accessible in the normal sense (unlike a VPS/Dedi running with a domain). True it does have lolicon porn however I've yet to find definative proof that it is illegal in any country as most of the laws that could be used are yet to be contended in court. Those times the laws have been used it seems actual child porn was also present.


Canada's Porn laws are very restrictive and very(deliberately) vague. A number of people have been busted for taking hentai manga across the border, or even having the pics on their laptops!

The person that runs [thedevilspanties.com] this site got their books seized when they were bringing them to a convention in Toronto, despite there not being any pornographic material in them at all.
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post Feb 20 2014, 01:00
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XD Sadly to get a decent evade you need MMax evade.... apart from my gauntlets, most of my pieces are sitting around there with the forging on them. I'm loathed to change the gauntlets out because of the level 4 capacitor on them... Buying MMax evade would be stupidly expensive I suspect

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post Feb 20 2014, 01:03
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My Shade/DW set (2 Negation, 2 Arcanist, 1 Fleet, 2 Ethereal Weapons) gives me:

57.5% physical mitigation
51.3% magical mitigation
37.9% evade chance
0% block chance
47% parry chance
61.2% resist chance

And that's with only 172 DW Prof & 22 Light Armor Prof

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post Feb 20 2014, 01:07
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wow, one of my armors reaches almost Emax evade (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
too bad it's an arcanist and not a fleet... -.-"

btw, 3 arcanist and 2 fleet, with 2 DW ethereal weapons, DW prof 231 and light prof 251 bring to:

55% physical mitigation
49.5% magical mitigation
34.2% evade chance
0% block chance
35.3% parry chance
58.1% resist chance

oh, and all of them are exquisite with 4PABs (STR, DEX, END and AGI)

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post Feb 20 2014, 01:15
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Feb 20 2014, 00:01) *

you have 2 ways:
1) at the end of every battle kill all the monsters except 1 and spam weaken on him with all the mana you've left (mana pots included at your discretion); you can also start a single round on grindfest at the lowest difficult and flee when you're out of mana, still the proficency remains
2) assemble a mage set with a high deprecating prof staff and various mana-conserving armors and spam weaken as above; you don't need to optimize stats because it's only a temporary set; it's far more efficient than set 1 but you need to use an (extra) equipment slot
you will be able to gain imperil and silence in few days; magnet requires a bit more work but still doable with way 1

So I cast Weaken, wait 3 turns and then cast weaken again?
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post Feb 20 2014, 01:24
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QUOTE(blueeyedcolossus @ Feb 20 2014, 00:15) *

So I cast Weaken, wait 3 turns and then cast weaken again?

at your level and with the slotted ability you should already have a 1-turn cooldown...
however basically yes... usually i used to cast weaken and focus (one action as another just to lose the 1-turn cooldown without losing MP), weaken and focus ecc: 2 fingers, high effect (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
at normal difficulty you shouldn't bother with the risk of the monster attacking you (furthermore if weakened) but from time to time you would have to cast also cure...

btw, what's your actual prof?
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post Feb 20 2014, 01:59
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QUOTE(blueeyedcolossus @ Feb 19 2014, 16:45) *

What's a good way to grind deprecating prof nowadays?

1. gain 2 levels
2. get 0 cooldown weaken
3. get spellspam(find it in the script thread or in holy_demon's shop)
4. equip heaviest 2h weapon you have + cloth with as much wisdom is you can find
5. im sure you can see where this is going


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post Feb 20 2014, 02:41
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Friendly reminder of the "R" being native hotkey for "recast spell on target".
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post Feb 20 2014, 03:28
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QUOTE(blueeyedcolossus @ Feb 19 2014, 13:45) *

What's a good way to grind deprecating prof nowadays?


There is no real need to 'spam' anything, just simply add Weaken to your buff/debuff procedure as you normally play. I admit that I did 'spam' Weaken by doing GF at easier levels at first but that was boring as hell. After burning through 15 Mana pots, I went back to playing at the usual levels and added Weaken to my buff/debuff procedure. I didn't start using Deprecating spells until I was well past Lv200 and currently it sits at 271+.
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post Feb 20 2014, 06:07
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QUOTE(something @ Feb 20 2014, 10:59) *

1. gain 2 levels
2. get 0 cooldown weaken
3. get spellspam(find it in the script thread or in holy_demon's shop)
4. equip heaviest 2h weapon you have + cloth with as much wisdom is you can find
5. im sure you can see where this is going


After Spellspam 3.3, you can just use spell rotation Weakn; Imperil; Silence; Defend. No need for 0-cooldown weaken (Well with 0-cd weaken you can use Weaken; Heroic Mana Potion (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) )

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post Feb 20 2014, 07:17
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Feb 20 2014, 00:25) *

no, i meant 1 point evade difference...


my shade set has the same evade as yours and i'm 30lvs higher than you (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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post Feb 20 2014, 08:00
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I'm new to this concept: What is the purpose of teams in HV? And how does it benefit you or anyone else?
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post Feb 20 2014, 08:27
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QUOTE(varst @ Feb 19 2014, 09:38) *

Go naked (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

(A long time ago someone really made that work against BT/IWBTH FSM)


bring forth this great hero!
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post Feb 20 2014, 08:32
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I'm new to this concept: What is the purpose of teams in HV? And how does it benefit you or anyone else?


I am unaware of this concept... where did you learn of it?
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post Feb 20 2014, 08:34
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QUOTE(animeai @ Feb 19 2014, 23:42) *

Your evade is really low for a shade set - could you post the links of your armor?


This is my current set:
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=99ea811c02
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=d7f95a962f
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=ea5f623725
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=99d13e5941
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=c45fa04ebd


It's just random Bazaar pieces I put together when the higher level difficulties started getting too tough for my heavy 2h around level 100 or so. Thought that evade instead of tanking would be better but I didn't know evade was so tied to stats so it's better left for higher levels. The wiki makes it seem like all builds are equal from the start and it's just a matter of taste.


QUOTE(animeai @ Feb 19 2014, 23:42) *
I've also found that 2H seems to suck bigtime compared to 1H and DW recently. I think it was silently nerfed (or 1H and DW were buffed a lot) in recent (read: last 6 months) updates. Your level is also pretty low so you want a build that will let you grind quickly. 1H with force shield and power might be your friend if you have the credits


I would look to invest in a heavy 1h if it gave more survivability at higher difficulties than my current build though I've also wondered if the parry bonus from a DW club + rapier build would help a lot.
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post Feb 20 2014, 10:57
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If I am not willing to risk/spend time on clearing FSM on IWBTH, should I hold on my blood tokens until I will be able to do so, or equipment drop from RoB is so low in value compared to trophies that may as well clear FSM on Hell ( or Normal)?
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