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post Feb 19 2014, 06:53
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So I'm currently running a shade light armor with mace build, but the damage output really leaves a lot to be desired. Monsters simply live too long at higher difficulties making the longer arenas really difficult. I'm also having a tough time in arenas and hourly battles with any difficulty above nintendo since I'm guessing I am lacking in evade.

My question is whether a light armor and dual wield or a heavy armor and shield build would be best if my goal is to be able to complete the longer arenas at either IWBTH or PFUDOR? Which can go through them the fastest? Which can last longer/needs the least maintenance in terms of potions?



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post Feb 19 2014, 08:06
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QUOTE(RacerX849 @ Feb 18 2014, 20:53) *

So I'm currently running a shade light armor with mace build, but the damage output really leaves a lot to be desired. Monsters simply live too long at higher difficulties making the longer arenas really difficult. I'm also having a tough time in arenas and hourly battles with any difficulty above nintendo since I'm guessing I am lacking in evade.

My question is whether a light armor and dual wield or a heavy armor and shield build would be best if my goal is to be able to complete the longer arenas at either IWBTH or PFUDOR? Which can go through them the fastest? Which can last longer/needs the least maintenance in terms of potions?
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For longer arenas, I go with Heavy (Power) + 2h. For shorter arenas & half-hourlies, I go Heavy + 1h. Once I max out my 1h skill, I'm going to go Light (Shade) + Dual for awhile to try it out.
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post Feb 19 2014, 08:28
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QUOTE(RacerX849 @ Feb 19 2014, 13:53) *

So I'm currently running a shade light armor with mace build, but the damage output really leaves a lot to be desired. Monsters simply live too long at higher difficulties making the longer arenas really difficult. I'm also having a tough time in arenas and hourly battles with any difficulty above nintendo since I'm guessing I am lacking in evade.

My question is whether a light armor and dual wield or a heavy armor and shield build would be best if my goal is to be able to complete the longer arenas at either IWBTH or PFUDOR? Which can go through them the fastest? Which can last longer/needs the least maintenance in terms of potions?
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It really depends on your weapons/gear. If you have really nice stuff that is highly forged, anything goes.
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post Feb 19 2014, 08:40
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QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Feb 19 2014, 14:28) *

It really depends on your weapons/gear. If you have really nice stuff that is highly forged, anything goes.

Dual shortswords with full cotton armor (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Feb 19 2014, 08:57
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QUOTE(Colman @ Feb 19 2014, 08:40) *

Dual shortswords with full cotton armor (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


nah, a tanky mage with full plate set is better (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Feb 19 2014, 09:38
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Go naked (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

(A long time ago someone really made that work against BT/IWBTH FSM)
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post Feb 19 2014, 09:55
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We really need a forum's sarcasm color or some newbies might actually try those things out. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Feb 19 2014, 10:51
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QUOTE(Shesalllala @ Feb 19 2014, 08:55) *

We really need a forum's sarcasm color or some newbies might actually try those things out. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

what? sarcasm? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
isn't to try and go naked the best possible strategy either to make FSM run or to distract him then? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Feb 19 2014, 10:52
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Feb 19 2014, 00:51) *

what? sarcasm? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
isn't to try and go naked the best possible strategy either to make FSM run or to distract him then? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)


There's a reason the FSM shows up with schoolgirls around...
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post Feb 19 2014, 11:34
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QUOTE(Drakewyn @ Feb 19 2014, 09:52) *

There's a reason the FSM shows up with schoolgirls around...

true, but if i try to jump over mikuru then it's FSM raping me, so i have to be rude with them (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Feb 19 2014, 14:05
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QUOTE(Drakewyn @ Feb 19 2014, 15:52) *

There's a reason the FSM shows up with schoolgirls around...

Put something with lots of wriggling tentacles in the same place with schoolgirls = Profit!
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post Feb 19 2014, 15:19
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QUOTE(Drakewyn @ Feb 19 2014, 10:52) *

There's a reason the FSM shows up with schoolgirls around...


never thought about that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

though, i just realize i have a dozen chaos token. so should i:
1) upgrade my top monster's "double gift" chance, 8 tokens
2) unlock more monsters, 10 tokens.

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post Feb 19 2014, 15:25
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Upgrade the double gift chance, well worth it.
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post Feb 19 2014, 16:11
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more monsters = more bindings
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post Feb 19 2014, 16:24
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Feb 19 2014, 17:19) *

never thought about that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

though, i just realize i have a dozen chaos token. so should i:
1) upgrade my top monster's "double gift" chance
2) unlock more monsters

Depends on the cost of the unlock.
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post Feb 19 2014, 16:47
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Depends on the cost of the unlock.


8 for the double gift upgrade & 10 for monster slot.
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post Feb 19 2014, 17:17
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Feb 19 2014, 18:47) *

8 for the double gift upgrade & 10 for monster slot.

I would choose monster slot until it cost less than 30.
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post Feb 19 2014, 23:42
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It is also a server/seeder/exhibits torrent-like behavior, so you might want to look out if your hoster allows that too.


Unless you hammer server resources the majority of hosts won't even look twice at a VPS or dedicated server until they get complaints. You are very unlikely to get complaints from H@H as it only distributes to e-hentai and g.e-hentai and isn't web accessible in the normal sense (unlike a VPS/Dedi running with a domain). True it does have lolicon porn however I've yet to find definative proof that it is illegal in any country as most of the laws that could be used are yet to be contended in court. Those times the laws have been used it seems actual child porn was also present

QUOTE(RacerX849 @ Feb 19 2014, 07:53) *

So I'm currently running a shade light armor with mace build, but the damage output really leaves a lot to be desired. Monsters simply live too long at higher difficulties making the longer arenas really difficult. I'm also having a tough time in arenas and hourly battles with any difficulty above nintendo since I'm guessing I am lacking in evade.

My question is whether a light armor and dual wield or a heavy armor and shield build would be best if my goal is to be able to complete the longer arenas at either IWBTH or PFUDOR? Which can go through them the fastest? Which can last longer/needs the least maintenance in terms of potions?
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Your evade is really low for a shade set - could you post the links of your armor? I've also found that 2H seems to suck bigtime compared to 1H and DW recently. I think it was silently nerfed (or 1H and DW were buffed a lot) in recent (read: last 6 months) updates. Your level is also pretty low so you want a build that will let you grind quickly. 1H with force shield and power might be your friend if you have the credits

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post Feb 19 2014, 23:45
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What's a good way to grind deprecating prof nowadays?
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post Feb 20 2014, 00:01
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QUOTE(animeai @ Feb 19 2014, 22:42) *

Your evade is really low for a shade set - could you post the links of your armor? I've also found that 2H seems to suck bigtime compared to 1H and DW recently. I think it was silently nerfed (or 1H and DW were buffed a lot) in recent (read: last 6 months) updates.

my evade is about the same, i'm 40 levels above him and still thought it was decent (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
furthermore i noted that between DW and 2H there's only 1 point difference...

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What's a good way to grind deprecating prof nowadays?

you have 2 ways:
1) at the end of every battle kill all the monsters except 1 and spam weaken on him with all the mana you've left (mana pots included at your discretion); you can also start a single round on grindfest at the lowest difficult and flee when you're out of mana, still the proficency remains
2) assemble a mage set with a high deprecating prof staff and various mana-conserving armors and spam weaken as above; you don't need to optimize stats because it's only a temporary set; it's far more efficient than set 1 but you need to use an (extra) equipment slot
you will be able to gain imperil and silence in few days; magnet requires a bit more work but still doable with way 1

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