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I totally agree with that but a lot of people come in asking what's the best setup (not what's the most enjoyable setup).

Well, it can't be helped because this is Ask the Experts thread for novice users who are not experienced with HV yet.
Actually, they could find 90% of the answer to their questions on the wiki though... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

BTW speaking of enjoyabe setup, I think the Battle Mage (or Magic Melee, whatever it's called) is the best for me.
It's really fun to play with Hallowed 1H of Battlecaster + Buckler of Battlecaster + Heimdall gears.
Hallowed DW of Battlecaster + Heimdall gears, as well.
I should stick to Nintendo- difficulty with it, but who cares? The most important thing is that it's really enjoyable to me. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

This post has been edited by Cats Lover: Feb 6 2014, 05:05

How do you work out what the base stats of an equipment are if it has bindings on it, seeing as its not linear anymore?

How do you work out what the base stats of an equipment are if it has bindings on it, seeing as its not linear anymore?

1. You can see here: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=128890

2. And I recorded myself when I forge the equipment. Here's some data from the record.
Note that they're not the exact value because of rounding.

Not ADB/MDB
1 1.90476%
2 3.58974%
3 5.20147%
4 6.66667%
5 7.98535%
6 9.30403%
7 10.47619%
8 11.57509%
9 12.67399%
10 13.62637%

ADB/MDB
1 2.61679%
2 5.00097%
3 7.21070%
4 9.24598%
5 11.12619%
6 12.92886%
7 14.57647%
8 16.14654%
9 17.63908%
10 19.05408%
11 20.39155%
12 21.67087%
13 22.89203%
14 24.05505%
15 25.17930%
16 26.26478%
17 27.31149%
18 28.30006%
19 29.26924%
20 30.18027%
21 31.09130%
22 31.98294%
23 32.81644%
24 33.63055%
25 34.42528%
26 35.20062%
27 35.95658%
28 36.69316%
29 37.41035%
30 38.10816%

I was referring to 2-3 hits on a specific mob, not to clear the entire round.

At 2 hits to kill a mob, I'm pretty sure Axe is the winner. More than 4 hits to kill a mob, rapier wins out. In between, it depends on your total attack power from your armor to figure out which one is better. Like Colman said, as you get more attack power from your armor, the difference between axe and rapier diminishes making PA more useful.

So if you use full power slaughter, rapier is probably better... unless that extra boost really helps you start to one-hit-kill a lot of mobs. If you use full shade, axe is probably better as the attack difference is more noticeable.

But again, it depends on what you're hitting. If it takes you 2-3 hits to kill a mob all the time and you're using shade, axe is probably better. If it takes you 4+ hits to kill a mob all the time, rapier is the clear winner.

IMO, rapier is better for power slaughter because of the parry. It's the reason why I can T&T with <10 heals with rapier and 60 heals with axe.

My usual strategy with rapier is to hit low hp monsters until they get 1-2 stack PA then start focusing on the higher hp monsters. When I finish with them. almost everything else is already killed by counter. Axe could do the same with bleed, but it's slower :/

I agree with this, the golden rule for everything. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
The best equipment (and play style) is what you like.

My favorite play style is hitting thin air and let spike shield do the killing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

113 1 Takanashirikka hits you for 472 crushing damage.
112 1 You evade the attack from Takanashirikka.
111 2 Your spike shield hits Takanashirikka for 5 points of cold damage.
111 1 Takanashirikka uses drak dark frame. You parry the attack.
110 3 Regen restores 505 points of health.
110 2 Your spike shield hits Takanashirikka for 29 points of cold damage.
110 1 Takanashirikka hits you for 505 crushing damage.
108 2 The effect Freezing Limbs on Takanashirikka has expired.
108 1 Takanashirikka uses drak frame dragon. You evade the attack.
107 3 Regen restores 856 points of health.
107 2 Your spike shield hits Takanashirikka for 25 points of cold damage.
107 1 Takanashirikka hits you for 435 crushing damage.
106 2 Your spike shield hits Takanashirikka for 24 points of cold damage.
106 1 Takanashirikka hits you for 421 crushing damage.
105 3 Regen restores 549 points of health.
105 2 Your spike shield hits Takanashirikka for 5 points of cold damage.
105 1 You parry the attack from Takanashirikka.
104 4 Regen restores 1165 points of health.
104 3 Takanashirikka gains the effect Freezing Limbs.
104 2 Your spike shield hits Takanashirikka for 96 points of cold damage.
104 1 Takanashirikka uses drak dark frame, and hits you for 1714 crushing damage
103 1 You evade the attack from Takanashirikka.
102 1 Regen restores 603 points of health.
101 3 Regen restores 1165 points of health.
101 2 Your spike shield hits Takanashirikka for 99 points of cold damage.
101 1 Takanashirikka uses drak dark frame, and hits you for 1768 crushing damage
100 2 Your spike shield hits Takanashirikka for 5 points of cold damage.
100 1 You parry the attack from Takanashirikka.
99 3 Regen restores 417 points of health.
99 2 Your spike shield hits Takanashirikka for 5 points of cold damage.
99 1 You parry the attack from Takanashirikka.
98 3 Takanashirikka gains the effect Freezing Limbs.
98 2 Your spike shield hits Takanashirikka for 24 points of cold damage.

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This post has been edited by holy_demon: Feb 6 2014, 05:35

Just want to ask again, for mages, at what level did it become comfortable to play on hell difficulty or higher? Or is it a matter with equipment?

My favorite play style is hitting thin air and let spike shield do the killing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

It might have been with your testing script. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
BTW isn't it a bug to skip turn without doing anything, including defend, focus, and scan?
Even "Stop kicking dead horse" message does not appear in the log...
What was your actual "action" during the spike shield attacks? And where's your missing "turn 109"? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Just want to ask again, for mages, at what level did it become comfortable to play on hell difficulty or higher? Or is it a matter with equipment?

I think it may be 225+ lvl because of Imperil with 2 targets and 1 cooldown. You have only 5 level to go. Cheer up! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
And you can use Imperil with 3 targets and no cooldown at 310 lvl. The great development to mages.

This post has been edited by Cats Lover: Feb 6 2014, 05:51

The thing is, a lot of your damage for 1H comes directly from counters.

Don't overestimate the damage output from counters. It's good in Hellfest, where a counter on the same monster I targeted help me one-shot often, but not on high difficulty arena/IW. Mobs simply have too much HP there. Instead of providing damage, counters take on a more utility role by mean of stunning mob. Stunned mob cannot do damage and cannot evade/parry, so you can focus on an otherwise a pain in the ass monster with ease. For example, I can almost always kill Kodou Yuki before the counter-inflicted stun on it expires.


Remember that counter is limited to 3 per turn, and counter damage is only 75% of your normal attack damage.

It might have been with your testing script. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
BTW isn't it a bug to skip turn without doing anything, including defend, focus, and scan?
Even "Stop kicking dead horse" message does not appear in the log...
What was your actual "action" during the spike shield attacks? And where's your missing "turn 109"? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
I think it may be 225+ lvl because of Imperil with 2 targets and 1 cooldown. You have only 5 level to go. Cheer up! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
And you can use Imperil with 3 targets and no cooldown at 310 lvl. The great development to mages.

Hm, I'll wait and see if the next level of imperil is much help. Definitely is a long road until lv 310 lol

It might have been with your testing script. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
BTW isn't it a bug to skip turn without doing anything, including defend, focus, and scan?
Even "Stop kicking dead horse" message does not appear in the log...
What was your actual "action" during the spike shield attacks? And where's your missing "turn 109"? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Basically, I tried to attack monster '0'. The 10th monster, despite its id being "mkey_0" is actually numbered 10. '0' indicates non-target (for non-targeting spell/toggle and such). There's really no way to do this unless you do with a post request (submit form/ajax) So there's no "beating dead horse" because there's no "horse" to begin with. It's also fun to note that this isn't limited by the "4 action/s" throttle (since it isn't an action, I didn't even get a counter in (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ). I went through those 100 turns in 5s (mainly due to internet loading). O.o

There's no turn 109 because I didn't copy it down (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

On other note, my PFUDOR T&T clearing time jumps down from 40m to 25mins with the scripts (throttled at 4 actions/2s). It gets to 20mins when I'm willing to beat a few "dead horses" (throttled at 8actions/2s) xD

This post has been edited by holy_demon: Feb 6 2014, 06:18

Basically, I tried to attack monster '0'. The 10th monster, despite its id being "mkey_0" is actually numbered 10. '0' indicates non-target (for non-targeting spell/toggle and such). There's really no way to do this unless you do with a post request (submit form/ajax) So there's no "beating dead horse" because there's no "horse" to begin with. It's also fun to note that this isn't limited by the "4 action/s" throttle (since it isn't an action, I didn't even get a counter in (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ). I went through those 100 turns in 5s (mainly due to internet loading). O.o

There's no turn 109 because I didn't copy it down (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

If the counter-attack still work, I think it may be OP, escpecially on low difficulty. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
BTW there could be 10th monster on random encounter or the last round of some arenas, isn't it?
Just out of curiosity, what if attack a monster whose id is 'mkey_9' while there are only 8 monsters?
Would it work for 100 turns / 5s, as well?

On other note, my PFUDOR T&T clearing time jumps down from 40m to 25mins with the scripts (throttled at 4 actions/2s). It gets to 20mins when I'm willing to beat a few "dead horses" (throttled at 8actions/2s) xD

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IMO, rapier is better for power slaughter because of the parry. It's the reason why I can T&T with <10 heals with rapier and 60 heals with axe.

My usual strategy with rapier is to hit low hp monsters until they get 1-2 stack PA then start focusing on the higher hp monsters. When I finish with them. almost everything else is already killed by counter. Axe could do the same with bleed, but it's slower :/
My favorite play style is hitting thin air and let spike shield do the killing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

is it safe to assume that's in PFUDOR?

If the counter-attack still work, I think it may be OP, escpecially on low difficulty. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
BTW there could be 10th monster on random encounter or the last round of some arenas, isn't it?
Just out of curiosity, what if attack a monster whose id is 'mkey_9' while there are only 8 monsters?
Would it work for 100 turns / 5s, as well?

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Hmm very interesting, attacking a dead monster ("Beating the dead horses") will still trigger counter

19 7 Regen restores 1198 points of health.
19 6 Your spike shield hits Drakkisath for 151 points of cold damage.
19 5 Drakkisath hits you for 543 crushing damage.
19 4 Your spike shield hits Ac Milan for 5 points of cold damage.
19 3 You counter Ac Milan for 5092 points of void damage.
19 2 Ac Milan uses Goallllllll. You block the attack.
19 1 Stop beating dead horses.

So does attacking a non-existent monster (error "Invalid Target"). I tried attacking monster 9 in a round of 8 monster here and I got invalid target.

40 4 The effect Stunned on Is This Even Working has expired.
40 3 The effect Stunned on Rorix has expired.
40 2 Regen restores 1198 points of health.
40 1 Drakkisath casts Flamestrike, and hits you for 1111 fire damage (50% resisted)
39 3 Drakkisath gains the effect Freezing Limbs.
39 2 Your spike shield hits Drakkisath for 346 points of cold damage.
39 1 Drakkisath uses Cleave, and hits you for 1650 crushing damage
38 2 The effect Stunned on Drakkisath has expired.
38 1 The effect Overwhelming Strikes has expired.
36 1 Invalid target
35 2 Regen restores 361 points of health.
35 1 Invalid target
34 10 Cooldown expired for Cure
34 9 Your spike shield hits Virgin Magician for 5 points of cold damage.
34 8 Virgin Magician gains the effect Stunned.
34 7 You counter Virgin Magician for 9893 points of void damage.
34 6 You parry the attack from Virgin Magician.
34 5 Your spike shield hits Bird Of Paradise for 5 points of cold damage.
34 4 Bird Of Paradise gains the effect Stunned.
34 3 You counter Bird Of Paradise for 10854 points of void damage.
34 2 You block the attack from Bird Of Paradise.
34 1 Invalid target

Funny note here: I tried to attack monster '0' at turn 37. There was NO turn 37 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Oh btw, attacking monster '0' still triggers a counter

6 2 You counter Bakaneko Vii for 1579 points of void damage.
6 1 You parry the attack from Bakaneko Vii.
5 4 Bakaneko Vii hits you for 413 piercing damage.
5 3 Heartiels gains the effect Stunned.
5 2 You counter Heartiels for 2591 points of void damage.
5 1 You parry the attack from Heartiels.
4 6 Tonoka gains the effect Stunned.
4 5 You counter Tonoka for 2114 points of void damage.
4 4 You parry the attack from Tonoka.
4 3 You parry the attack from Bakaneko Vii.
4 2 You counter Heartiels for 2414 points of void damage.
4 1 You block the attack from Heartiels.
3 3 You evade the attack from Tonoka.

I think the other test was done with mace. My memory was fuzzy about yesterday (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) I know that beatng dead horse and attacking '0' monster are unthrottled. We can pretty much assume invalid target is the same.

Best not to exploit if I ever release this, you could get banned :/

This post has been edited by holy_demon: Feb 6 2014, 07:02

Best not to exploit if I ever release this, you could get banned :/

I also don't want to be banned. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
I'm just content with satisfying my curiosity about targeting invalid monsters. Thanks for the test! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

is there anyway to find out how many pieces of a given equip exist?

i don't see how it could be possible?

but i just remember talking to someone about what-not and him saying "well, good luck, coz there's only X number in existence" and i thought "well how could you know that" it's probably just speculation?

is it safe to assume that's in PFUDOR?

Hellfest (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I also don't want to be banned. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
I'm just content with satisfying my curiosity about targeting invalid monsters. Thanks for the test! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

no prob. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

is there anyway to find out how many pieces of a given equip exist?

i don't see how it could be possible?

but i just remember talking to someone about what-not and him saying "well, good luck, coz there's only X number in existence" and i thought "well how could you know that" it's probably just speculation?

Um... you mean that how can find out how many equips do you have?
You can see it on character - inventory menu, like "246 / 1000".

Um... you mean that how can find out how many equips do you have?
You can see it on character - inventory menu, like "246 / 1000".

nope (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

i mean, for example, how many legendary katanas exist in hv currently? etc...

nope (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

i mean, for example, how many legendary katanas exist in hv currently? etc...

Hmm, interesting. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
I wonder if it's possible when someone could scan all the existing equips with the eid, but key is also required to get equipment's link...

This post has been edited by Cats Lover: Feb 6 2014, 07:45

But now you can get it with "HV ItemFilter" script by holy_demon (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Actually, the idea (not what he's asking, but filtering item by name) has already been implemented in ctxl's Mini Shop Helper (find that out like 2 days after I release <.< ). The only difference is that my script also works for MoogleMail (that's the reason I wrote the script the 1st place...) , Inventory, and Battle Items. (Mini Shop Helper only works with Forge and Equipment shop) and regexp support

This post has been edited by holy_demon: Feb 6 2014, 07:44

(not what he's asking, but filtering item by name)

I deluded myself that he was asking how many certain equip types he already has, not counting them manually. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

This post has been edited by Cats Lover: Feb 6 2014, 07:53