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First... Thanks Treia, kuro and treesloth... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Magic score is a composite of total effectiveness.

Yeah, I know... but, it doesn't factor "all" stats... in fact, it factor the most important ones (MD, EDB, Spell Crit, INT & WIS)... but, I still confused if looking "only" at this result is sufficient to tag a staff as good or bad... better explanation of my doubts below...

I don't use that script, so no idea about it.
It's hard to decide on Mage Armors, but if you're talking about Staffs, then either a Destruction or Focus Suffix (with no less than 25% MC) are Desired. Some cases are different, for example, if you're playing a particular Spell based Mage, suppose Holy Mage, you might like Heimdall Suffix more than destruction, (Besides, many Holy Mages uses Oak Staff, which doesn't have the Destruction Suffix (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) ) since it also increase the HP Regeneration of the Cure spell.
Staff Damage doesn't matter. But Magic Damage does matter.
So a Staff with Destruction Suffix which have 40 Base MD is more preferable than a Staff with Focus Suffix (With 25% MC) which have 25 base MD, since you can achieve 25% MC in a Staff through IW-Run, while IW won't Increase your Base MD very much (i.e. 25>40). (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

1st one is unnecessary if you're playing Holy Mage.
2nd one's MC is not satisfactory.
3rd one is definitely the choice. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Yeah, the 3rd is the best one according to Magic Score too... However, except for EDB & WIS, all stats of it sucks compared to the others...

The 1st one... besides the Tempestuous suffix, has better Holy score than the 2nd (due to higher MD & higher Holy EDB)...

And 2nd one... (besides considered worst according to Magic Score) has overall better stats than the others, Higher Magic Accuracy, Higher Magic Crit, Higher Divine Proof, Higher WIS than 2nd, Less Burden than 2nd and Also Mana Conservation (low MC, but it has)...

All that really confuse me... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

my guess is that the prefix+suffix staff will be in high demand.

Yeah, it's happening... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

Find really good Staffs that matches prefix+suffix is really difficulty lately... the last one I have seen, was auctioned for 2.5 millions, before I begin being a mage... and all it's stats are below Superior Max... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Also, according to Magic Score: MD > EDB... so, Destruction suffix should be better than EDB suffix... but, I don't know if it is correct, that's why I begin having doubts about Magic Score... :/


Well, thanks everyone... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Is it worth it to spend 500k worth of credit/playing time on a piece that cost 500k or less ? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

This post has been edited by holy_demon: Dec 13 2013, 14:41

Is it worth it to spend 500k worth of credit/playing time on a piece that cost 500k or less ? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

If you are going to use that piece of gear for a long time, it worth it.

First... Thanks Treia, kuro and treesloth... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Yeah, I know... but, it doesn't factor "all" stats... in fact, it factor the most important ones (MD, EDB, Spell Crit, INT & WIS)... but, I still confused if looking "only" at this result is sufficient to tag a staff as good or bad... better explanation of my doubts below...
Yeah, the 3rd is the best one according to Magic Score too... However, except for EDB & WIS, all stats of it sucks compared to the others...

The 1st one... besides the Tempestuous suffix, has better Holy score than the 2nd (due to higher MD & higher Holy EDB)...

And 2nd one... (besides considered worst according to Magic Score) has overall better stats than the others, Higher Magic Accuracy, Higher Magic Crit, Higher Divine Proof, Higher WIS than 2nd, Less Burden than 2nd and Also Mana Conservation (low MC, but it has)...

Also, according to Magic Score: MD > EDB... so, Destruction suffix should be better than EDB suffix... but, I don't know if it is correct, that's why I begin having doubts about Magic Score... :/
Well, thanks everyone... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Well lets throw out the tempestuous. The focus is not terrible, but low mana cons. But you get higher acc, and crit than non-focus staffs, which is nothing to laugh at. For focus staffs, I try to get annihilator, archmage, but to get 2 potencies you want on a legendary is not the easiest thing in the world. Might be easier just to get econo5 on a nonfocus staff.

EDB is pretty important; I wouldn't say MD is > EDB, they work together. The difference between a non-prefixed and prefixed+suffixed staff might be 30EDB(to me at least), which means alot to magic score, and damage output.

Is it worth it to spend 500k worth of credit/playing time on a piece that cost 500k or less ? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

Based on what you say here, though I would say no way. But you would need to give more info, eg weapon, gear, etc

If you are going to use that piece of gear for a long time, it worth it.

Based on what you say here, though I would say no way. But you would need to give more info, eg weapon, gear, etc

This is my current main weapon and the most expensive piece of my set (700k). Everything else costs 300k or less. And honestly I don't see myself still using the same thing in the next 50 levels, since with my current earning rate, I would be able to bid for mag/leg maces.

That's the argument against. The argument for spending 500k is that I could clear faster/on higher difficulty, thus improving my earning.

This is my current main weapon and the most expensive piece of my set (700k). Everything else costs 300k or less. And honestly I don't see myself still using the same thing in the next 50 levels, since with my current earning rate, I would be able to bid for mag/leg maces.

That's the argument against. The argument for spending 500k is that I could clear faster/on higher difficulty, thus improving my earning.

Just max it, it can at least make you a few % stronger.

EDB is pretty important; I wouldn't say MD is > EDB, they work together. The difference between a non-prefixed and prefixed+suffixed staff might be 30EDB(to me at least), which means alot to magic score, and damage output.

About that, I think I need to explain better... Is not that I think MD is better than EDB... but, I used the formula of Magic Score to compare the stats of Legendary/Peerless Staffs present in Equipment Ranges and Destruction suffix has better results...

According to the formula used by Magic Score:
Hallowed Katalox of Destruction > Hallowed Katalox of Heimdall > Hallowed Oak of Heimdall

...and the same with any other Staff/Element, i.e.:
Shocking Redwood of Destruction > Shocking Willow of Destruction > Shocking Redwood of Mjolnir


So, to resume out my question: Should I still continue considering Magic Score statistic over anything else? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)



Thanks again... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

So, to resume out my question: Should I still continue considering Magic Score statistic over anything else? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
Thanks again... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Magical score is used to measure the offensive capability of maging. So the real question should be: do you value offense over other factors?
For many mages, the answer would be 'yes': after all, killing faster = less mana spent = less damage = less cure.

I think willow of destruction is better now than katalox of destruction since willow have natural counter resist and just little less MDB compare with kalatox (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


I lost 0.2 PMI and 0.4 MMI with my new estoc , miss that 5 END potency (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Well of course you'd want more if the score's close (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I think willow of destruction is better now than katalox of destruction since willow have natural counter resist and just little less MDB compare with kalatox (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
I lost 0.2 PMI and 0.4 MMI with my new estoc , miss that 5 END potency (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I need binding of slaughters (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

I need binding of slaughters (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

I will max this estoc damage when xtech max his forge lvl (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


win7 is so slow compare to linuxmint (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)


but without that annoying problems (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I will max this estoc damage when xtech max his forge lvl (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
win7 is so slow compare to linuxmint (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
but without that annoying problems (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

At what level he is now?
I believe xtech has one of the best estoc in HV (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Regarding that IW question, I think I'll just wait till lvl.300 to start IWing it myself. I'll just use the money to forge stuff instead.

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/forge

why is the first sentence crossed out? doesn't it increase by 1% each upgrade?

At what level he is now?
I believe xtech has one of the best estoc in HV (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

well , I think only everlost estoc that can compare with his estoc (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


46 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Regarding that IW question, I think I'll just wait till lvl.300 to start IWing it myself. I'll just use the money to forge stuff instead.

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/forge

why is the first sentence crossed out? doesn't it increase by 1% each upgrade?

what equip you want to forge (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

^^

For forging this would be a good candidate:

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=11ab8c0d3f

well , I think only everlost estoc that can compare with his estoc (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
46 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I love how he keeps his weapon from 10 so he has guarantee Holy and Dark Strike lol

why are dark and holy valued over other infusions?

why are dark and holy valued over other infusions?

Because they're useful for schoolgirl marathons - the three stronger schoolgirls (i.e. all but Konata) are weak against both holy and dark.

This post has been edited by habbababba31: Dec 13 2013, 20:14