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post Nov 29 2013, 12:45
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those dragons give you crap credits if my memory not wrong (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Nov 29 2013, 12:54
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Nov 29 2013, 12:45) *

those dragons give you crap credits if my memory not wrong (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I remember some people were whining about how they got Average equipments from IWBTH DWD.
But no one mentioned that they got credit drop from the dragons. How much you got?
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post Nov 29 2013, 13:30
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QUOTE(kuro009 @ Nov 29 2013, 02:30) *

But I got 730 credits in Normal, which is a higher amount!. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
There must be a max cap on the credit drop. I just want to know that limit is.


No idea, research it. The trio and the tree likely give the most credit drop but you can't really tell the lows and highs because you can't fight them multiple times a day and you can't always get credits when you beat them. About a month ago I started recording these things and so far I only have 4 credit drops from them.

BTW, only schoolgirls in the last 3 arenas drop things other than trophies.

Also, the credit multiplier for PFUDOR isn't known, but for sure it is more than 3.

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post Nov 29 2013, 13:34
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QUOTE(HNTI @ Nov 29 2013, 21:43) *

Credits-wise put trains some scavenger as it increases drop of items which you can sell.


I'd say Luck of the Draw is a better investment. Both max LotD and max scavenger yield 25% more drop in term quality and quantiy, respectively, but equipment of higher quality tend to get exponentially more expensive, in both bazaar and WTS,
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post Nov 29 2013, 13:59
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Nov 29 2013, 19:34) *

I'd say Luck of the Draw is a better investment. Both max LotD and max scavenger yield 25% more drop in term quality and quantiy, respectively, but equipment of higher quality tend to get exponentially more expensive, in both bazaar and WTS,

Theoretically, LotD is better than scavenger due to the exponential price of good equipment. However, even with both max you may still not able to obtain a daily good drop from arena below T & T, in compare with the items in those free shop.

If you want good drop, go for TTT (RoB) in PF. I found no significant different in drop quality with 20 or 23 LotD. Maybe its drop bonus already hit the ceiling.
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post Nov 29 2013, 14:17
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How about the primary attributes?Raise all the primary attributes equally as lvl up?And what are those red numeral on primary attributes mean?

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post Nov 29 2013, 14:23
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How about the primary attributes?Raise all the primary attributes equally as lvl up?And what are those red numeral on primary attributes mean?

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Raise all the primary attributes equally as lvl up is a good choice at low level when you haven't decide your primary style (e.g. mage, melee) and you can quickly switch between different style.
The number in red is the bonus from artifacts.

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post Nov 29 2013, 14:36
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Is there any point to have accuracy over 100%? Mine is around 130% from shade gear + estoc, is it reducing monster ability to evade/parry?
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post Nov 29 2013, 14:46
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Is there any point to have accuracy over 100%? Mine is around 130% from shade gear + estoc, is it reducing monster ability to evade/parry?

It reduce monster evade. And monsters cannot evade your attack when you have got 200% acc. However, monster can still parry your attack so I do not recommend anyone use balance weapon in main hand.
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post Nov 29 2013, 15:32
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QUOTE(Colman @ Nov 29 2013, 04:46) *

It reduce monster evade. And monsters cannot evade your attack when you have got 200% acc. However, monster can still parry your attack so I do not recommend anyone use balance weapon in main hand.


Balance mainhand 4life.


I am melee niten light, I try to only play on pfudor for arenas to gain the most credits and try to do all the way to Trio and Tree, I can never do all the arenas unless I devote a massive amount of time. So at my level, should I be able to? Is it more worth to just play at a lower level and clear them all? Maybe better to do all the pfudor I can and then once I quit clear everything else on normals? I mostly want credits for trainings right now so anyway to maximize credits helps.
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post Nov 29 2013, 20:08
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QUOTE(SPoison @ Nov 29 2013, 16:32) *

Balance mainhand 4life.
I am melee niten light, I try to only play on pfudor for arenas to gain the most credits and try to do all the way to Trio and Tree, I can never do all the arenas unless I devote a massive amount of time. So at my level, should I be able to? Is it more worth to just play at a lower level and clear them all? Maybe better to do all the pfudor I can and then once I quit clear everything else on normals? I mostly want credits for trainings right now so anyway to maximize credits helps.


PFUDOR when above 80+ stamina, then switch to hell or normal depending on your speed. I find that hell has the best credits/time spent ratio.
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post Nov 29 2013, 23:34
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QUOTE(SPoison @ Nov 29 2013, 06:30) *

No idea, research it. The trio and the tree likely give the most credit drop but you can't really tell the lows and highs because you can't fight them multiple times a day and you can't always get credits when you beat them. About a month ago I started recording these things and so far I only have 4 credit drops from them.

BTW, only schoolgirls in the last 3 arenas drop things other than trophies.

Also, the credit multiplier for PFUDOR isn't known, but for sure it is more than 3.



Not true, schoolgirls can also roll for artifacts.
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post Nov 30 2013, 05:08
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QUOTE(SPoison @ Nov 29 2013, 15:32) *

Balance mainhand 4life.
I am melee niten light, I try to only play on pfudor for arenas to gain the most credits and try to do all the way to Trio and Tree, I can never do all the arenas unless I devote a massive amount of time. So at my level, should I be able to? Is it more worth to just play at a lower level and clear them all? Maybe better to do all the pfudor I can and then once I quit clear everything else on normals? I mostly want credits for trainings right now so anyway to maximize credits helps.


For earning credits, you want to complete all the arenas on any difficulty, so I would recommend finding a difficulty where you can put as little effort in and finish all of them (it might be normal if you don't have much time each day), then scale up the difficulty to where you can finish all of them still (or most).
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post Nov 30 2013, 07:28
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Okay, I deduced thats shrining trophies is useless.

I bought a ton of random trophies except for noodly in WTS and they give me superiors at best and average at worst T_T
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post Nov 30 2013, 07:57
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QUOTE(LOL50015 @ Nov 30 2013, 12:28) *

Okay, I deduced thats shrining trophies is useless.

I bought a ton of random trophies except for noodly in WTS and they give me superiors at best and average at worst T_T

you need alot of luck to get something good from regular trophy (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Nov 30 2013, 08:10
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i remember reading on here that evade is practically useless at high level unless you have a bunch of it(not counting bonus from SV/blind/etc).

how much is "a bunch"? also, is it the same deal with the other avoidance stats?

right now i'm at
33.4% evade chance
56.8% parry chance
66.5% resist chance

should i aim for more eventually?
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post Nov 30 2013, 08:44
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Nov 30 2013, 13:57) *

you need alot of luck to get something good from regular trophy (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


Oh, okay, at least they were dirt cheap anyway.

Does the same go for noodly? I have a couple of them, should I sell them or shrine them?
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post Nov 30 2013, 09:10
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QUOTE(LOL50015 @ Nov 30 2013, 13:44) *

Oh, okay, at least they were dirt cheap anyway.

Does the same go for noodly? I have a couple of them, should I sell them or shrine them?

up to you (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

if you want money , than sell them since it rather hard now to get noodly drop mag+ in this patch (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Nov 30 2013, 09:41
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QUOTE(LOL50015 @ Nov 30 2013, 15:44) *

Oh, okay, at least they were dirt cheap anyway.

Does the same go for noodly? I have a couple of them, should I sell them or shrine them?

I think their price (WTS, WTB or Item Shop Bot, whatever) shows the average expected result of statistics. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
You can't get 50k worth equipment every time you shrine a Noodly Appendage.
But if you shrine 100 Noodly, you'll probably get 5000k worth equipment, or even more expensive one. (e.g. Mag/Leg rare gear)
If you're out of luck, 100 Noodly could be transformed into 100 crappy sup/ex equipment, of course.
So it's up to you as nobody_xxx said.
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post Nov 30 2013, 10:15
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QUOTE(something @ Nov 30 2013, 14:10) *

i remember reading on here that evade is practically useless at high level unless you have a bunch of it(not counting bonus from SV/blind/etc).

how much is "a bunch"? also, is it the same deal with the other avoidance stats?

right now i'm at
33.4% evade chance
56.8% parry chance
66.5% resist chance

should i aim for more eventually?

Since monsters could have anti-evade up to 20%, you need evade of 50%+ to find it useful.
BTW, pure evade build is very expensive because you need to have a full set of shade (assume you are light melee) with weapon of 0 burden.
Mix of leather & shade is bad because the burden from leather reduce the evade from shade by a large proportion.

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