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post Oct 26 2013, 21:50
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Not sure if it's just me but It seems impossible to collect more than 3 ToB a day.
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post Oct 26 2013, 21:59
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QUOTE(Oversoul @ Oct 26 2013, 21:50) *

Not sure if it's just me but It seems impossible to collect more than 3 ToB a day.


On average I get 5 per day. No Tokenizer, and primarily from Arenas only.
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post Oct 26 2013, 22:15
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QUOTE(Cashino @ Oct 26 2013, 21:59) *

On average I get 5 per day. No Tokenizer, and primarily from Arenas only.



I'm on a dry spell, Chaos Token everywhere. And it seems like there are some people with 1k+ ToBs, guess they must have been easy to obtain in the past.
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post Oct 26 2013, 22:16
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QUOTE(Cashino @ Oct 26 2013, 15:59) *
On average I get 5 per day. No Tokenizer, and primarily from Arenas only.

What are yout trainings?

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post Oct 26 2013, 22:25
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QUOTE(Colman @ Oct 27 2013, 01:53) *

Max block in mag class worth 500k+ IMO. Just like maxed accuracy in rapier.
I think ace amuro want you have it at around 700-750k So my final bid was 700k (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Oct 27 2013, 00:18
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QUOTE(Kagoromo @ Oct 26 2013, 11:28) *

Moar edit: Do you think this axe worth IW-ing?

no. that's an exquisite masquerading as a magni. barely over supmax wdb, and quality rolls were wasted on accuracy and crit.
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post Oct 27 2013, 01:28
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- Monster gifts no longer have a random element. They will always give a gift as soon as they have passed a threshold, and checking them no longer affects the timer.

What does this mean? what is that threshold? I have 1 monster ( giant ) thats lvl 757 should i check it more then once a day? Currently i wait about at least 40-49 hrs to check it.
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post Oct 27 2013, 01:33
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QUOTE(Cashino @ Oct 27 2013, 06:59) *

On average I get 5 per day. No Tokenizer, and primarily from Arenas only.

I used to get 12 per day back in July when i cleared all arenas and do some IW

these days token drops are rare, just more chaos ones..

edit: even 2 weeks ago i got about 4-6 ToB and now I'm only getting 1-2. All tokens drops became chaotic (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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post Oct 27 2013, 01:38
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QUOTE(viperit @ Oct 26 2013, 16:28) *

- Monster gifts no longer have a random element. They will always give a gift as soon as they have passed a threshold, and checking them no longer affects the timer.

What does this mean? what is that threshold? I have 1 monster ( giant ) thats lvl 757 should i check it more then once a day? Currently i wait about at least 40-49 hrs to check it.

it means tbro doesn't feel like letting us know what the "threshold" is. just some parameter, that when it's met, you get gifts.

check more often than 48 hrs. Try once a day, and then less if you keep getting gifts, and see how many you get. note your kills so you can make some guesses from there. There's no counter reset anymore so you can't check too often.

my mob was at 770ish and i get gifts in morning and night . . . though i just upgraded to > 780 and get less wins at night and a huge surge in morning now lol.

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post Oct 27 2013, 01:42
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QUOTE(viperit @ Oct 27 2013, 10:28) *

- Monster gifts no longer have a random element. They will always give a gift as soon as they have passed a threshold, and checking them no longer affects the timer.

What does this mean? what is that threshold? I have 1 monster ( giant ) thats lvl 757 should i check it more then once a day? Currently i wait about at least 40-49 hrs to check it.


I dont really know the system, but I can tell you my case, one day I checked my monster called shiro neko which is level 3xx, which haven't brought me a gift for at least 12 hours and then 25 mins later I checked it again just to feed it crystal (I only check my monsters to feed their hunger, so they won't forget to fight for me) and it brought me 5 gifts (trash bindings and mid mat as usual) -due to its max chaos level.

I would say check every monster every day at least (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

edit: level 7xx monster is awesome eh, my level 7xx monster brought me about 12 bindin of slaughters so far

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post Oct 27 2013, 01:59
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allright thanks guys i'll check it more often i tried before and the lvl 757 wasn't bringing anything when checking him once a day ( i left at least 24 hrs pass each check)

its why i lenghtened the time when i check it

maybe my monster name gives it away that its a giant ( sloninja ) so people kill it on first like i do with kodou yuki, nobunaka?
I should upgrade its survivability so it doesn't die so fast lol



*So yea whats gonna happen when most monsters are gonna be be over power level 1k?
*Time to clear is getting kinda longgish already ( stronger stuff take longer to clear rounds)

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post Oct 27 2013, 02:23
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QUOTE(cruelsion @ Oct 26 2013, 16:42) *

I dont really know the system, but I can tell you my case, one day I checked my monster called shiro neko which is level 3xx, which haven't brought me a gift for at least 12 hours and then 25 mins later I checked it again just to feed it crystal (I only check my monsters to feed their hunger, so they won't forget to fight for me) and it brought me 5 gifts (trash bindings and mid mat as usual) -due to its max chaos level.

I would say check every monster every day at least (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

edit: level 7xx monster is awesome eh, my level 7xx monster brought me about 12 bindin of slaughters so far

mine doesn't bring many slaughters =/
brought 5 phazons in a week though so not complaining. Pretty much made back and more the cost of upgrading crystals in HGs too. Just wish it'd bring stuff i can use. get way too many mage bindings.
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post Oct 27 2013, 02:59
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QUOTE(Kagoromo @ Oct 27 2013, 02:28) *

It has use whenever multiple monsters of the same annoying type (and presumably having more or less the same offensive capability) show up; at those times it will let me know which to kill first (the ones have less HP of course). It works really well coupled with the Monster Sensor script. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I don't think bosses have that much HP really; they are probably 5x Koudo Yuki at most so it should still work fine. And I almost never do marathon anyway so the only time I have to turn it off is when I fight in RoB I think.
Moar edit: Do you think this axe worth IW-ing?

4 turn bleeding is a bit short...... other stat are not bad. But it is not Ethereal. I think you can IW it when you do not have others to IW.

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post Oct 27 2013, 03:05
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QUOTE(etothex @ Oct 27 2013, 10:23) *

mine doesn't bring many slaughters =/
brought 5 phazons in a week though so not complaining. Pretty much made back and more the cost of upgrading crystals in HGs too. Just wish it'd bring stuff i can use. get way too many mage bindings.


max the chaos level (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

it worth it
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post Oct 27 2013, 03:05
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QUOTE(viperit @ Oct 27 2013, 07:59) *

allright thanks guys i'll check it more often i tried before and the lvl 757 wasn't bringing anything when checking him once a day ( i left at least 24 hrs pass each check)


how many crystal packs does it take to have a PL 700 monster?
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post Oct 27 2013, 04:22
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Is there any chance to check if Monster name is free without creating and leveling monster ?
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post Oct 27 2013, 04:38
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QUOTE(zhen0n @ Oct 27 2013, 09:05) *

how many crystal packs does it take to have a PL 700 monster?

Around 10 for PL 651. Around 16 for PL ~750.

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post Oct 27 2013, 05:01
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Monsters have a a triple 3*100% gauge i think that fills over time and when one is full u get a gift, this can happen 3 times at most i assume for a lvl 25 monster that barely fights anyone.

Then there's the times a monster is in a winning battle where a player dies to another monster in the same mob, i think that fills the gauge even faster.

And the killing blow is if your monster kills a player personally, that probably gives an instant gift to you by giving +100% to the gauge.



PS : This is all hypothetical and only 1 possibility of many.

PPS : Monsters can hold 3 gifts maximum so along with chaos upgrades for double gift you can double them for 6 gifts at a time.


QUOTE(LittleSweetLoli @ Oct 27 2013, 12:22) *

Is there any chance to check if Monster name is free without creating and leveling monster ?

You create a monster and if the name is taken it will say so on the bottom left corner of the page in red.

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post Oct 27 2013, 05:07
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QUOTE(zhen0n @ Oct 27 2013, 02:05) *

how many crystal packs does it take to have a PL 700 monster?

I just did a script based on the numbers of the wiki to calculate it, it seems you need about 145k crystals. If you neglect one primary stat (int for example), you need about 200k crystals.
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post Oct 27 2013, 05:44
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QUOTE(Dan31 @ Oct 27 2013, 11:07) *

I just did a script based on the numbers of the wiki to calculate it, it seems you need about 145k crystals. If you neglect one primary stat (int for example), you need about 200k crystals.


Can you tell the money needed for a PL 500 monster, minimum for HG stuff.
I am trying to calculate the payoff period. Thanks. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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