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post Oct 23 2013, 13:40
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QUOTE(clarkiest @ Oct 23 2013, 18:31) *


"Achievement unlocked!" (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Oct 23 2013, 14:25
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Just like the people above me said, 2H is the easiest to pick up and will stay the easiest of all styles. Later on when you get a good estoc you don't even have to worry about mitigation, you'll hack them down before they can hit you. With a mace atleast 4-5 of them won't even get a turn most of the battle. People usually switch to Dual Wield for the last 3 arenas. 1H with a good force shield or barrier tower is very safe, but also very slow, you'll most likely see double or triple the amount of turns spend per round.

Ofcourse there's mage, they're even more glass-cannon-y than estoc and require more mental input into the game, but it clears in the least amount of turns. Whether or not it is the fastest depends on how many rounds per second you can do with melee.
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post Oct 23 2013, 15:19
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Oct 23 2013, 20:59) *

you will get exq junk (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)


Just cleared PFUDOR T&T which took me exactly one hour (not a single minute-off) with my main weapon enchanted holy/dark and it's ethereal.

This is what I got at the clear bonus

215 19 You gain 1000 Credits!
215 18 You gain 1367235 EXP!
215 17 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
215 16 Arena Token Bonus! [Chaos Token]
215 15 Arena Clear Bonus! [Exquisite Axe of the Vampire]
215 14 Verdandi dropped [3x Crystal of Flames]
215 13 Urd dropped [Heroic Mana Potion]
215 12 Skuld dropped [Heroic Health Potion]
215 11 Yggdrasil dropped [Sapling]

[Exquisite Axe of the Vampire]

yes

I'll get exq. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)Attached Image

edit2: and then a RE that took 20 seconds to clear gave me better ones

"42 15 You gain 8838200 EXP!
42 14 Illumi Zoldyck dropped [Superior Leather Breastplate of Warding]
42 13 Fibre90 dropped [Monster Edibles]
42 12 Renamed Reptilian dropped [Heroic Mana Potion]
42 11 Evil Fox Spirit dropped [Superior Wakizashi of the Nimble]
42 10 Kodou Yuki dropped [Average Plate Gauntlets of Protection]
42 9 Fankriss dropped [Exquisite Onyx Leather Gauntlets of Stoneskin]
42 8 Fibre03 dropped [3x Crystal of Devotion]"

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post Oct 23 2013, 15:28
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QUOTE(cruelsion @ Oct 23 2013, 21:19) *

Just cleared PFUDOR T&T which took me exactly one hour (not a single minute-off) with my main weapon enchanted holy/dark and it's ethereal.

This is what I got at the clear bonus

215 19 You gain 1000 Credits!
215 18 You gain 1367235 EXP!
215 17 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
215 16 Arena Token Bonus! [Chaos Token]
215 15 Arena Clear Bonus! [Exquisite Axe of the Vampire]
215 14 Verdandi dropped [3x Crystal of Flames]
215 13 Urd dropped [Heroic Mana Potion]
215 12 Skuld dropped [Heroic Health Potion]
215 11 Yggdrasil dropped [Sapling]

[Exquisite Axe of the Vampire]

yes

I'll get exq. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)Attached Image

and then a RE that took 20 seconds to clear gave me better ones

"42 15 You gain 8838200 EXP!
42 14 Illumi Zoldyck dropped [Superior Leather Breastplate of Warding]
42 13 Fibre90 dropped [Monster Edibles]
42 12 Renamed Reptilian dropped [Heroic Mana Potion]
42 11 Evil Fox Spirit dropped [Superior Wakizashi of the Nimble]
42 10 Kodou Yuki dropped [Average Plate Gauntlets of Protection]
42 9 Fankriss dropped [Exquisite Onyx Leather Gauntlets of Stoneskin]
42 8 Fibre03 dropped [3x Crystal of Devotion]"

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exq junk (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Just salvage it , if you lucky HG will pop up (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Oct 23 2013, 15:40
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11 6 Dxxa1 dropped [Fluttershy Figurine]

Just got this after the last round of Graduation arena, cleared on Nintendo using a shitty mace with full power suit. Is this a sign? A PROPHECY?

Maybe I should switch to heavy mace now. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Oct 23 2013, 15:46
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QUOTE(Kagoromo @ Oct 24 2013, 00:40) *

11 6 Dxxa1 dropped [Fluttershy Figurine]

Just got this after the last round of Graduation arena, cleared on Nintendo using a shitty mace with full power suit. Is this a sign? A PROPHECY?

Maybe I should switch to heavy mace now. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)


Many people argue mace is good with shade (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I myself use it, and although dmg lacked compared to power, i can play... say, more like 1 handed.

I think mace have stuns which is already defensive so better to go with shade for more crit and as.

Mace is not considered useful in high difficult arenas anyway
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post Oct 23 2013, 15:48
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That's the reason that I do not play arena in this patch. BTW, I am trying the 1h hell GF again. Hope I can clear it this time. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Edit: mace is slower than 1h IMO.

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post Oct 23 2013, 15:55
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QUOTE(Colman @ Oct 23 2013, 20:48) *

That's the reason that I do not play arena in this patch. BTW, I am trying the 1h hell GF again. Hope I can clear it this time. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Edit: mace is slower than 1h IMO.

You better enchant your axe with some 3 hours worth of infusion then. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Oct 23 2013, 15:58
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QUOTE(Kagoromo @ Oct 23 2013, 21:55) *

You better enchant your axe with some 3 hours worth of infusion then. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

It should be 5 hours worth, if I want to clear hell gf (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif). BTW, elemental damage is less than bleeding damage.....
It seems sp is more important than mp for 1h

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post Oct 23 2013, 16:01
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Have a feeling people underestimate mace. T1 proc -> SS -> T2 proc -> attack or turn off SS depending on the amount of leftovers. Then start next round with full OC again. Recharing OC with Mace is a piece of cake on Phudor since you won't take dmg.

In my opinion Mace is superior for Arena/low amount of rounds and Estoc for GF/high amount of rounds. Since Mace will require more mana pots but then again, I'm inexperienced
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post Oct 23 2013, 16:01
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QUOTE(Colman @ Oct 23 2013, 20:58) *

It seems sp is more important than mp for 1h

You should probably pack 7 mana and rest spirit. Bring a lot of Absorb scrolls if possible as well.

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post Oct 23 2013, 16:13
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QUOTE(Oversoul @ Oct 23 2013, 21:01) *

Have a feeling people underestimate mace. T1 proc -> SS -> T2 proc -> attack or turn off SS depending on the amount of leftovers. Then start next round with full OC again. Recharing OC with Mace is a piece of cake on Phudor since you won't take dmg.

In my opinion Mace is superior for Arena/low amount of rounds and Estoc for GF/high amount of rounds. Since Mace will require more mana pots but then again, I'm inexperienced

I think there is a better timing. Let's say there is only one last monster of the current round. Great cleave that monster then kill it with non-SS attacks to build up a bit of OC. If you can kill that last monster in under 3 turns, you will be able to get to next round, turn on SS and Shatter Strike at 1st turn. All hell will begin to break loose after that Not really, but you get the idea. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Oct 23 2013, 16:16
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QUOTE(Oversoul @ Oct 24 2013, 01:01) *

Have a feeling people underestimate mace. T1 proc -> SS -> T2 proc -> attack or turn off SS depending on the amount of leftovers. Then start next round with full OC again. Recharing OC with Mace is a piece of cake on Phudor since you won't take dmg.

In my opinion Mace is superior for Arena/low amount of rounds and Estoc for GF/high amount of rounds. Since Mace will require more mana pots but then again, I'm inexperienced


I've been using mace for exactly one year (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

check my prof. above posts i think 2 pages ago I posted it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Mace is relatively no good in PFUDOR.
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post Oct 23 2013, 16:18
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QUOTE(Colman @ Oct 24 2013, 00:58) *

It should be 5 hours worth, if I want to clear hell gf (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif). BTW, elemental damage is less than bleeding damage.....
It seems sp is more important than mp for 1h


that's why I prepare mana:sp 1:1 pots (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Oct 23 2013, 16:23
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QUOTE(Kagoromo @ Oct 23 2013, 16:13) *

I think there is a better timing. Let's say there is only one last monster of the current round. Great cleave that monster then kill it with non-SS attacks to build up a bit of OC. If you can kill that last monster in under 3 turns, you will be able to get to next round, turn on SS and Shatter Strike at 1st turn. All hell will begin to break loose after that Not really, but you get the idea. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)



that's pretty much what I do with DW, charge T3 on this round, next round SS into T3 immediately. This is the perfect strategy for 5+ mob rounds. But sometimes my dmg is too high that I won't get a chance to recharge again. If using Mace, T3 is not so useful as the damage is not so great, I'd rather save OC for another T2 proc. So I personllay would only use T3 as a defensive measure
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post Oct 23 2013, 16:23
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Hi, I am a mage and wanted to know if I am going the right direction.
My stats and equips, are they alright?

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post Oct 23 2013, 16:25
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QUOTE(cruelsion @ Oct 23 2013, 16:18) *

that's why I prepare mana:sp 1:1 pots (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)



Heh, that's surprising, I use 7mana/3spirit and sometimes have a spirit over. It's probably either because I constantly keep 7 buffs up or I use Cure way more than you.
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post Oct 23 2013, 16:25
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QUOTE(Oversoul @ Oct 23 2013, 21:23) *

that's pretty much what I do with DW, charge T3 on this round, next round SS into T3 immediately. This is the perfect strategy for 5+ mob rounds. But sometimes my dmg is too high that I won't get a chance to recharge again. If using Mace, T3 is not so useful as the damage is not so great, I'd rather save OC for another T2 proc. So I personllay would only use T3 as a defensive measure

Instead of Shatter Strike, I meant Rending Blow, sorry. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

QUOTE(Oversoul @ Oct 23 2013, 21:25) *

Heh, that's surprising, I use 7mana/3spirit and sometimes have a spirit over. It's probably either because I constantly keep 7 buffs up or I use Cure way more than you.

You are not getting hit by dem delicious spell crits enough. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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post Oct 23 2013, 16:36
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QUOTE(Kagoromo @ Oct 23 2013, 16:25) *

Instead of Shatter Strike, I meant Rending Blow, sorry. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
You are not getting hit by dem delicious spell crits enough. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)



That's ok, you can eat those delicious spell crits in my stead lol
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post Oct 23 2013, 16:39
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QUOTE(Oversoul @ Oct 24 2013, 01:25) *

Heh, that's surprising, I use 7mana/3spirit and sometimes have a spirit over. It's probably either because I constantly keep 7 buffs up or I use Cure way more than you.


I think I confused you (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

This is how I use best fit for me, mana to sp : they all godly pots (love Tenboro for making potions so abundant (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) )

2h set : 3:1

1H set : 1:1

DW set : 3:1

Hybrid set : 3:1 (experimental)

staff proficiency set (heavy +staff) : all hp pots with one spirit

I do use more mana pots in other sets. (above are placed in order of proficiency, meaning I main 2H so far)

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