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post Sep 6 2013, 13:40
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Sep 6 2013, 18:07) *

i never bothering grinding prof , it will match up your lvl fast if you lvl 280+ and playing at high difficulty (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


e need grinding my depre prof now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

want some imperil in my hand (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

he he (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

now i want to ask about imperil.

Arcane Focus and Heartseeker can't cast on same time right. i know that(if i'm not wrong)
now how about holy imperil and dark imperil.are those 2 can increase at the same time?

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post Sep 6 2013, 13:54
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you don't need AF since you are melee (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

holy dark imperil only usefull if you have dark holy strike on your weapon (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Sep 6 2013, 14:38
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Sep 6 2013, 03:54) *

holy dark imperil only usefull if you have dark holy strike on your weapon (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


Even then I don't think it's worth casting with its really short duration. It's probably just faster to keep hacking than to keep casting it every time it runs out. Seriously, deprecating spells suck now with short durations, I've almost completely stopped using them (I use silence on Yggdrasil on normal Trio so the domino strike damage from my estoc doesn't get healed).

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post Sep 6 2013, 14:57
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QUOTE(T_Starrk @ Sep 6 2013, 19:38) *

Even then I don't think it's worth casting with its really short duration. It's probably just faster to keep hacking than to keep casting it every time it runs out. Seriously, deprecating spells suck now with short durations, I've almost completely stopped using them (I use silence on Yggdrasil on normal Trio so the domino strike damage from my estoc doesn't get healed).

I'm even not unlock that holy dark imperil (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

only using normal imperil on special boss (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Sep 6 2013, 15:01
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I definitely recommend raising your deprecating proficiency. I'm not sure whether you have imperil or not, but it's fairly necessary for high-difficulty mage.
You should do just fine in IWBTH now, provided you have imperil.
Most of your equipment is better than mine, and I can do Trio and the Tree arena on IWBTH fairly easily.


How? Every time i try to play in IWBTH i die like shit, or i need to spam so much weaken, Imperil and Cure that my mana (and mana potions )
gone before i can finish the arena. I'm using haste, shadow veil, regen, protection and spark of life or spirit shield for survive, and arcane focus for the damnage.
I think i'm doing something wrong (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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post Sep 6 2013, 15:09
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QUOTE(7724he @ Sep 6 2013, 20:01) *

How? Every time i try to play in IWBTH i die like shit, or i need to spam so much weaken, Imperil and Cure that my mana (and mana potions )
gone before i can finish the arena. I'm using haste, shadow veil, regen, protection and spark of life or spirit shield for survive, and arcane focus for the damnage.
I think i'm doing something wrong (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)


post your stats and equipment (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


just don't do IWBTH when you not strong enough (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

patience (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Sep 6 2013, 15:19
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Sep 6 2013, 15:09) *

post your stats and equipment (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
just don't do IWBTH when you not strong enough (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

patience (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


QUOTE(7724he @ Sep 6 2013, 03:23) *

Hello.
I just want to ask if this is a good staff http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=71ef0ee0f2.
Is it worth enough to be lvl up and upgrade with the forge? Or is better w8 for another staff?

And I'd like to receive some advice about the stats and profency of my character.

Stats:

[img825.imageshack.us] http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/5222/smyb.jpg
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Legendary Shocking Ebony Staff of Surtr
Exquisite Phase Cap of Surtr
Exquisite Phase Robe of Surtr
Exquisite Phase Gloves of Surtr
Exquisite Ruby Phase Pants of Surtr
Magnificent Phase Shoes of Surtr

I'm currently playing at hell difficulty without problem, what i need to do for play in IWBTH?


These are my stats and equipment, tell me if you notice something wrong.
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post Sep 6 2013, 15:32
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QUOTE(7724he @ Sep 6 2013, 15:19) *

These are my stats and equipment, tell me if you notice something wrong.


pmed you~
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post Sep 6 2013, 15:46
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QUOTE(7724he @ Sep 6 2013, 20:19) *

These are my stats and equipment, tell me if you notice something wrong.

i think you need to increase your lvl to increase your survival chance (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
since it will unlock more usefull ability like imperil , clothmp , HP , mp , sp tank (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

you can spam focus to gain MP back , just kill everything than leave the weakest enemy with weaken if mana is your problem (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

just stick with highest difficulty you can handle until you strong enough to blast IWBTH (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

since i'm not mages , maybe you need to wait somebody like n125 to give better advice (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Sep 6 2013, 18:03
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QUOTE(7724he @ Sep 6 2013, 06:01) *

How? Every time i try to play in IWBTH i die like shit, or i need to spam so much weaken, Imperil and Cure that my mana (and mana potions )
gone before i can finish the arena. I'm using haste, shadow veil, regen, protection and spark of life or spirit shield for survive, and arcane focus for the damnage.
I think i'm doing something wrong (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)


I'm using this to grind stuff and even with 3 or 4+ monsters on IWBTH sitting on the field they can only do about 30-40 damage per turn and they have massive HP so just bashing away at them with a crude dagger my one-hand and light armor skyrocket. I can literally go in naked and they still would barely do any damage.

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edit: I think my spark of life is broken, can anyone tell me if its supposed to only work 1-2 times per fight? I've recently started fighting random encounters on IWTH and these guys hit for 1200-3200+ damage per hit and theres usually 6-10 of them so I can barely last 5 rounds without spark of life.

I cast spark once, heal/defend like my life depends on it while dishing out my own hits, get killed and saved by spark then when I go to recast it the effect gets added to the active affect bar but my hp bar doesn't change white and I'm very much not protected (died while spark of life was active).

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post Sep 6 2013, 22:43
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Okay, I am finally ready to seriously upgrade my legendary breastplate, so I did the math on the material on my current magnificent and what they are worth.

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=68cc347be8

80% of the mats rounded down.

Balance Bindings: 4 = about 40k
Protection Bindings: 14 = about 350k
Warding Bindings: 6 = about 24k
Fleet Bindings: 19 = about 190k
Negation Bindings: 2 = about 2k
Dampening Bindings: 2 = about 3k
Stoneskin Bindings: 2 = about 3k
Ox Bindings: 2 = about 45k
Raccoon Bindings: 13 = about 195k
Cheetah Bindings: 13 = about 195k
Turtle Bindings: 2 = about 30k

HG Leathers: 117 = about 2340k
MG Leathers: 302 = about 90k
Shade Fragments: 19 = about 570k

Total is 4077k. I don't think there's any way in hell I could sell this for that much. Most people who spend that much are looking for a legendary. So should I go ahead and kill it for the mats? No way in hell will I ever sell it for that right?
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post Sep 6 2013, 23:26
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QUOTE(Pucy @ Sep 6 2013, 18:03) *

I'm using this to grind stuff and even with 3 or 4+ monsters on IWBTH sitting on the field they can only do about 30-40 damage per turn and they have massive HP so just bashing away at them with a crude dagger my one-hand and light armor skyrocket. I can literally go in naked and they still would barely do any damage.

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edit: I think my spark of life is broken, can anyone tell me if its supposed to only work 1-2 times per fight? I've recently started fighting random encounters on IWTH and these guys hit for 1200-3200+ damage per hit and theres usually 6-10 of them so I can barely last 5 rounds without spark of life.

I cast spark once, heal/defend like my life depends on it while dishing out my own hits, get killed and saved by spark then when I go to recast it the effect gets added to the active affect bar but my hp bar doesn't change white and I'm very much not protected (died while spark of life was active).


When SOL triggers it consumes 50% of your base spirit points so if you don't have the required spirit points for the second SOL than it won't be active.
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post Sep 6 2013, 23:53
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Well, I killed it finally. I actually came pretty close my on my calculations (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) . I got a little bit more than 80% it looks like because I was level 20 forge.

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post Sep 7 2013, 00:05
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That's a lot of materials - you are supposed to lose forge experience when you salvage equipments, what's your level now?
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post Sep 7 2013, 00:32
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I've been thinking about changing my fighting style, or at least grinding the proc of another for a while. I've seen heavy advice lean towards 2handed. I've been using 1handed for prettymuch ever and it's capped right now. Then I found this Wakizashi, and read up on it and Niten Ichiryu on the Wiki, and find myself conflicted.

It doesn't say much about how it's calculated. But before I go asking if the Wakizashi is calculated with Dual Proc while the Katana's strike is done with 2H, or how exactly the calculation and gains work, or if my priority should be having a good Katana. I'm just going to ask; is Niten Ichiryu, rewarding without having both Dual and 2Handed somewhere or above 200 Proc? And would it be worth spending weeks grinding those up to use it? The Wiki's advice doesn't explain why it's only recommended for low or extremely high level players.

Also if it matters; my armor proc is all heavy and every piece I'm wearing is powered armor.
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post Sep 7 2013, 01:12
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Can you proc Status effect with elemental weapon ? For example can weapon with Fire Strike proc Searing Skin ? on target ?

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post Sep 7 2013, 02:00
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QUOTE(dragonandon @ Sep 6 2013, 18:32) *

I've been thinking about changing my fighting style, or at least grinding the proc of another for a while. I've seen heavy advice lean towards 2handed. I've been using 1handed for prettymuch ever and it's capped right now. Then I found this Wakizashi, and read up on it and Niten Ichiryu on the Wiki, and find myself conflicted.

It doesn't say much about how it's calculated. But before I go asking if the Wakizashi is calculated with Dual Proc while the Katana's strike is done with 2H, or how exactly the calculation and gains work, or if my priority should be having a good Katana. I'm just going to ask; is Niten Ichiryu, rewarding without having both Dual and 2Handed somewhere or above 200 Proc? And would it be worth spending weeks grinding those up to use it? The Wiki's advice doesn't explain why it's only recommended for low or extremely high level players.

Also if it matters; my armor proc is all heavy and every piece I'm wearing is powered armor.


Short answer...no, don't use it now...but yes, go ahead and try it after you raise DW and 2H prof above 200.

Long answer. When you use Niten, you do not gain any proficiency at all. While it uses aspects of 2H and DW...it doesn't contribute to proficiency. That's the overwhelming strike against Niten, no matter how rewarding the playing may be. Low players can try it because they are presumably not building much proficiency anyways, and can easily make up for it by simply changing to something else. High ones may use it because once you build max proficiency in anything at a high level, you canleave that style for quite a while and easily re-max it out again when you return. Or else they may have already maxxed out the rewards for that prof that are possible.

If you use Niten at some other level...say, from level 50 to level 200...you miss out on building proficeciency which you will certainly need by level 200 (and before) to get anything fun done. If your Niten gear and experience is good enough to outweigh that...well, it might be rewarding play, each person decides for themselves. It would just go against traditional advice, where the better order of things is build up both DW and 2H profs above 200 first...then try out Niten.

Grinding other proficiencies is still a great idea...2H heavy breaks down into scythe (used in easier Arenas/difficulties and cheaper to buy) and estoc (tends towards harder Arenas/difficulties and expensive). Mace is more for light armor. Longsword....poor longsword.

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post Sep 7 2013, 04:16
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alot of high lvl mages don't max their staff ( lvl 9 only ) coz hallowforged is useless for mages (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

hito don't max his legacy staff (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Not useless- I maxed on my staff to, say, double meleeing damage on undeads and giants is pretty nice when trying to stretch mana.
@maskokot: nope, but you can take advantage of already existing status effect to inflict more damage based on the elemental circle.

7724he: You need to be 310 to have triple imperil.
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post Sep 7 2013, 04:48
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Can you proc Status effect with elemental weapon ? For example can weapon with Fire Strike proc Searing Skin ? on target ?

No.

Have tried it. Never got it.
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post Sep 7 2013, 05:05
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@7724he why don't you try holy dark mage?
when i braging about drain yesterday,i got a lot info to maximized drain potential.and i find holy and dark mage get advantage to maximized drain potential compare to elemental mage. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
so change to survive on IWTB will be higher with that(i never try, i just got this idea and want to try it someday)

or stick with elemental and use imperil and other depre magic like other ppl tell U (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

@nobody_xxx yeah I left AF because i'm melee.(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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