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post Sep 3 2013, 21:14
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Bringing back mine last question, I post screen (forgive me, too sleepy to resize it):

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post Sep 3 2013, 21:33
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QUOTE(LittleSweetLoli @ Sep 3 2013, 21:14) *

Bringing back mine last question, I post screen (forgive me, too sleepy to resize it):


What I said on the previous page to answer Zen_Zen (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Take a few points off INT if you don't use magic too often, put into STR if you can survive easily and want some extra damage. Otherwise, AGI or END(END is better than AGI most of the time though) are good. DEX if you want a bit of both damage and survivability.

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post Sep 3 2013, 21:42
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@zen2

you will still get crude and fair drop in IWBTH even with max LoTD (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Sep 3 2013, 21:51
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QUOTE(zen_zen @ Sep 4 2013, 03:42) *

@Pillowgirl,

Here's my stats, I don't know how similar we will be, I've concentrated everything into DW Light whereas you seem to be bidding/buying just about everything under the sun. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I'd like to see your stats as well, I am curious to see whether I am keeping pace with others at similar levels.
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I should be able to replace some gear and bump up my PMI to around 75% without much trouble and with some light forging to 80%.

Damage to 5k+
Hit chance is gonna be a little sucky, maybe 130%
Crit should go to about 40%
Attack speed to 35%, maybe more if i decide to use agile leather.
Evade 30%'ish
Parry 50%

I already have everything planned out, just need cash and wait for the pieces so i can finally lvl my weapons and forge my armor.
And i still need to grind my light armor prof + buy ability boosts for light armor since i spent points on heavy first.
I estimate i need about 1,5mil to get there, just need to be patient.


@Sweetloli your PMI and block+parry sucks, get a reinforced tower shield of barrier and shielding plate of protection armor, get a good rapier of slaughter with high parry and good PA turns 4+.
Should cost you about 500-700k total and you should survive in IWBTH for a long time, you can switch pieces over to mithrill/savage power balance/slaughter armor later on when you want to kill faster.

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post Sep 3 2013, 22:02
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QUOTE(Pillowgirl @ Sep 4 2013, 02:51) *

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I should be able to replace some gear and bump up my PMI to around 75% without much trouble and with some light forging to 80%.

Damage to 5k+
Hit chance is gonna be a little sucky, maybe 130%
Crit should go to about 40%
Attack speed to 35%, maybe more if i decide to use agile leather.
Evade 30%'ish
Parry 50%

I already have everything planned out, just need cash and wait for the pieces so i can finally lvl my weapons and forge my armor.
And i still need to grind my light armor prof + buy ability boosts for light armor since i spent points on heavy first.
I estimate i need about 1,5mil to get there, just need to be patient.



80% (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

it not that easy increase PMI (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

how high your forge exp lvl (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)




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post Sep 3 2013, 22:13
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I have plenty of wiggle room to increase my PMI with better equipment, once i get to 75% it only takes less then 50 protection bindings on my gear to get 1% extra pmi on each piece, voila 80% pmi.

If i had a few more millions i could probably reach 90% pmi, but i'm on a budget...

What does forge level have to do with it?
I can upgrade each piece 25 times for a total of 125 protection bindings with a lvl 0 forge...

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post Sep 3 2013, 22:15
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QUOTE(Pillowgirl @ Sep 3 2013, 15:51) *

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I should be able to replace some gear and bump up my PMI to around 75% without much trouble and with some light forging to 80%.

Damage to 5k+
Hit chance is gonna be a little sucky, maybe 130%
Crit should go to about 40%
Attack speed to 35%, maybe more if i decide to use agile leather.
Evade 30%'ish
Parry 50%

I already have everything planned out, just need cash and wait for the pieces so i can finally lvl my weapons and forge my armor.
And i still need to grind my light armor prof + buy ability boosts for light armor since i spent points on heavy first.
I estimate i need about 1,5mil to get there, just need to be patient.
@Sweetloli your PMI and block+parry sucks, get a reinforced tower shield of barrier and shielding plate of protection armor, get a good rapier of slaughter with high parry and good PA turns 4+.
Should cost you about 500-700k total and you should survive in IWBTH for a long time, you can switch pieces over to mithrill/savage power balance/slaughter armor later on when you want to kill faster.




Where the hell did you get all your PMI?

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post Sep 3 2013, 22:20
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QUOTE(Pillowgirl @ Sep 4 2013, 03:13) *

I have plenty of wiggle room to increase my PMI with better equipment, once i get to 75% it only takes less then 50 protection bindings on my gear to get 1% extra pmi on each piece, voila 80% pmi.

If i had a few more millions i could probably reach 90% pmi, but i'm on a budget...

What does forge level have to do with it?
I can upgrade each piece 25 times for a total of 125 protection bindings with a lvl 0 forge...


try it , i give you 1M if you can reach 90% (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


talk easy than done it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


'only 1 player in HV history than reach 90% PMI (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)


yeah , sure try reach 80% first (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


do you know how much effort and money to reach max LvL forging (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

good luck with 5 legendary plate of protection with fully forged PMI+END+AGI (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)



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some joke in the midnight (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Sep 3 2013, 22:34
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Well nobody, the only way i'm wrong is if bindings increase base stats without scaling...then it's probably gonna be 3 or 4 times the bindings.
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post Sep 3 2013, 22:37
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QUOTE(Pillowgirl @ Sep 4 2013, 03:34) *

Well nobody, the only way i'm wrong is if bindings increase base stats without scaling...then it's probably gonna be 3 or 4 times the bindings.

i just give you reality , not some dream (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

90% PMI (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

you will match up 4everlost ( one of the best melee in HV with best legendary estoc ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

even reaching 80% it very hard (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

only reachable with legendary plate of prot forging (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


you also will sacrifice alot of damage if using full plate , that why high lvl melee always combine it with power slaughter (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Sep 3 2013, 22:43
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3% increment in your gear PMI doesn't mean it also increase 3%PMI in your overall stat PMI (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)


it maybe only increase 0.x in your overall stat (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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post Sep 3 2013, 22:44
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QUOTE(Pillowgirl @ Sep 3 2013, 22:34) *

Well nobody, the only way i'm wrong is if bindings increase base stats without scaling...then it's probably gonna be 3 or 4 times the bindings.


The problem with reaching very high amounts of PMI are the diminishing returns, as well as bindings giving less stats the more you apply of them.

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post Sep 3 2013, 22:48
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QUOTE(erwtsnert @ Sep 4 2013, 03:44) *

The problem with reaching very high amounts of PMI is the diminishing returns it gives you, as well as bindings giving less the more you apply them(If I remember correctly).

higher you forging , lower the effect is (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

that why i stop forging my axe for now even i can incease it 10 more slaughter binding (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)


for damage , most increase see in first 30 binding of slaughter (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Sep 3 2013, 23:26
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Sep 3 2013, 12:42) *

@zen2

you will still get crude and fair drop in IWBTH even with max LoTD (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


Yeah, I know but you also get Magnificents and Legendaries as well. Anything useful that I get are Superiors and the Exquisites are mostly trolls - only good for salvaging.
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post Sep 3 2013, 23:31
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Yeah, I know but you also get Magnificents and Legendaries as well. Anything useful that I get are Superiors and the Exquisites are mostly trolls - only good for salvaging.

I still suffering bad luck after max LoTD now , don't have anything good drop so far (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)


alot of 503 now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Sep 3 2013, 23:37
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What's a tier 3 equipment?
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post Sep 3 2013, 23:40
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What's a tier 3 equipment?

Tiers
Katana, Wakizashi, Katalox, Tower, Phase, Shade & Power
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What's a tier 3 equipment?

1H ~ wakizashi
2H ~ katana
staff ~ katalox
cloth ~ phase
light ~ shade
heavy ~ power
shield - tower

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post Sep 4 2013, 00:47
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QUOTE(zanky @ Sep 3 2013, 12:26) *

@clarkiest i sell it base on my price. if i got like your, i'll sell < 30k

fair enough,

QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Sep 3 2013, 22:20) *
talk easy than done it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

According to this formula,
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Physical Mitigation = 1 - (1 - equip_bonus) * (900/(900 + END + (AGI/2)))

when you reached about level 500, giving both your endurance and agility 600 points, you've doubled your quips PMI bonus. Say you got quips that give 60% mitigation, by doubling it's effectiveness, you will get 80% mitigation easily. Now, who would want to wait until level 600 to get this stat?

(Still easier said than done)
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QUOTE(clarkiest @ Sep 4 2013, 06:47) *

fair enough,
According to this formula,
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Physical Mitigation = 1 - (1 - equip_bonus) * (900/(900 + END + (AGI/2)))

when you reached about level 500, giving both your endurance and agility 600 points, you've doubled your quips PMI bonus. Say you got quips that give 60% mitigation, by doubling it's effectiveness, you will get 80% mitigation easily. Now, who would want to wait until level 600 to get this stat?

(Still easier said than done)

lvl 500 is the max cap , clark (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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