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post Aug 22 2013, 12:33
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Aug 22 2013, 19:25) *


2. if you're melee, dex is your 3rd most important stat after strength, and endurance.


I don't melee much, but isn't Dex more important than End now?
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post Aug 22 2013, 12:48
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I swear I am really new... but when people trade me items via mooglemail, they sometimes say "n/t". What does that mean?
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post Aug 22 2013, 12:50
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QUOTE(nightshadow2239 @ Aug 22 2013, 12:48) *

I swear I am really new... but when people trade me items via mooglemail, they sometimes say "n/t". What does that mean?


No Text, Mooglemail puts that in for you if you write nothing. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Aug 22 2013, 12:53
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No Text, Mooglemail puts that in for you if you write nothing. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


OHH... haha thanks.
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post Aug 22 2013, 13:25
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@holy demon Hmmm..... Hmmmm..... Acc is importan huh...

and what this mean
Also, at 100 acc, you will do more damage from adding accuracy, than base damage?
so more accuracy mean more damage?I think accuracy just for miss ir hit on monster.It's also affect damage as well?
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post Aug 22 2013, 13:42
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QUOTE(zanky @ Aug 22 2013, 20:25) *

@holy demon Hmmm..... Hmmmm..... Acc is importan huh...

and what this mean
Also, at 100 acc, you will do more damage from adding accuracy, than base damage?
so more accuracy mean more damage?I think accuracy just for miss ir hit on monster.It's also affect damage as well?


formula from the wiki:

Physical Damage = (base_weapon_damage + attack_damage_bonus + prof_bonus + 2*STR + DEX) * (1 + hath_bonus) * (1 + crit_mod) * (1 + heartseeker_bonus) * (1 + spirit_stance_bonus)) * (defense_mit)

Dex increases acc and physical damage. and parry.

I think Dex also affects your PMI, but I can't find that formula right now. That is why I think Dex might be more important for melee. End no longer affects PMI (right?), only increases HP and spirit pts.
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post Aug 22 2013, 13:45
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dex increase acc , damage , critical chance (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

agi increase PMI (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Aug 22 2013, 13:50
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Aug 21 2013, 21:19) *

nope , this is era of light now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)


QUOTE(Malenk @ Aug 21 2013, 21:27) *

i went from heavy to light and i'm having a much better time.


True. Light is really good now.


QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Aug 22 2013, 20:45) *

dex increase acc , damage , critical chance (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

agi increase PMI (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


Wow, Agi increases PMI? weird... Wiki organizers should make a page for all current formulas. It's too hard to find these equations. I can't find magic damage formula anymore either....
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post Aug 22 2013, 14:06
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yeah , agi increase PMI , crit , eva , speed now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

why don't you try reduce 10 your agi stat , sloth (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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post Aug 22 2013, 14:24
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QUOTE(zanky @ Aug 22 2013, 21:25) *

@holy demon Hmmm..... Hmmmm..... Acc is importan huh...

and what this mean
Also, at 100 acc, you will do more damage from adding accuracy, than base damage?
so more accuracy mean more damage?I think accuracy just for miss ir hit on monster.It's also affect damage as well?


since monsters have evade, you need more acc than just 100 since the extra acc acts as anti-evade.


QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Aug 22 2013, 21:42) *

Dex increases acc and physical damage. and parry.

I think Dex also affects your PMI, but I can't find that formula right now. That is why I think Dex might be more important for melee. End no longer affects PMI (right?), only increases HP and spirit pts.



No, end still affects pmi. In fact, it contributes even more to PMI, as quoted below...
I personally keep my str dex and end equal. Which of str, dex or end is more important is the subject of number crunchers (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

QUOTE(Tenboro @ May 18 2013, 20:31) *

The Endurance scaling factor for Physical and Magical Mitigation was changed from 1200 to 900. (That is, endurance contribution to PMI/MMI is somewhat higher now.)


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post Aug 22 2013, 18:10
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QUOTE(nightshadow2239 @ Aug 22 2013, 10:48) *

I swear I am really new... but when people trade me items via mooglemail, they sometimes say "n/t". What does that mean?

the meaning is "no thanks", as to say that they are all business and don't have a need for your attempts of small talk.

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post Aug 22 2013, 20:26
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QUOTE(holy_demon @ Aug 22 2013, 21:24) *

since monsters have evade, you need more acc than just 100 since the extra acc acts as anti-evade.
No, end still affects pmi. In fact, it contributes even more to PMI, as quoted below...



OK thanks, that's good to know.
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post Aug 22 2013, 23:48
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QUOTE(Malenk @ Aug 22 2013, 11:10) *

the meaning is "no thanks", as to say that they are all business and don't have a need for your attempts of small talk.

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


It's No Text, mooglemail equivalent of 'this page intentionally left blank'.
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post Aug 23 2013, 04:48
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I see.
And I have 1 silly question again
What PMI/MMI?
Is it Physical Mitigation or Magical Mitigation? But what "I" on PMI/MMI?
@holy demon if it's like that you should say dex instead of acc.
I'm confuse because you wrote acc.
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post Aug 23 2013, 05:06
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this is my stats
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post Aug 23 2013, 05:07
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post Aug 23 2013, 05:16
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can i win in arena for the trio and the tree chalenge at normal level? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
my battle slots: 1 battle scroll slot, 1 battle infusion slot, 9 battle inventory slot (4 health potions, 4 mana potions, 1 spirit potion)
i want to attachment my equipment link, but i don't know how to attach it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Aug 23 2013, 05:30
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QUOTE(mirigore @ Aug 22 2013, 21:16) *

i want to attachment my equipment link, but i don't know how to attach it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Hover mouse cursor over equipment name, press 'c' button, copy link from pop-up, post link.
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post Aug 23 2013, 05:37
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QUOTE(zanky @ Aug 21 2013, 19:37) *

Yoeah Finally i got that spell. Live is much easier from now.
It unlock at lvl 220. Because at 219 i don't get it yet.what the hell wiki said only lvl 200 to unlock. It really confuse me.
What Shadowdancer? How to unlock it?


For full cure if that's true, that would explain why I was thinking that the proficiency was there. Of course, this could be confirmed easily by Tenboro, but if we had him answer every question, he would have no time to actually do meaningful stuff like get 0.77 ready.

Shadowdancer is a suffix on shade, example.
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post Aug 23 2013, 06:01
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QUOTE(zanky @ Aug 22 2013, 02:05) *

I use 2H with mace for arena sometimes i also use DW for RE and RoB or arena with few monster
I use light armor.even if i got heavy and clothes, my prof for that is low.
I use DW on low lvl. after that i change to 2h.
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You may want to balance your stats a bit more. Here are my stats, for reference. I use DW instead of 2H, but still light armor. My int is probably still a bit high, but it's not going up beyond where it's at here for a good long while, unless it goes back to adding more than just SP for melee. Also, my accuracy is still lower than I'd like. As others said, you want to aim for 150% accuracy to help counter monster's evade. Also, like holy_demon, my 4 primary stats are normally right on par with each other. I typically keep str and end even with each other, and then dex and agi one point behind them. I was doing that back at level 120 or so when I first posted the question on stats and got some advice on them, but was also told that I needed more help on my str and end from my gear's lack of both at the time. I just never revised my method to have them all truly even with each other.

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Oh, and yeah my gear is in my sig now so you can see what I'm using if you're curious. Most is still not that great, but it's at least decent.
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