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post Aug 18 2013, 11:53
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only absorb that not too usefull , everything usefull for support (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

( well , i still use absorb at late rounds IW or have nothing to cast with channeling )



weaken , silence and imperil are top depre magic (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

sleep maybe but not that usefull for me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Aug 18 2013, 11:56
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QUOTE(clarkiest @ Aug 18 2013, 02:02) *

Oh, shit! I was looking at level scalling page and found nothing!
How can I survive IWBTH? Battletoads already exhaust my pots in just few rounds!

Anyway, thank you very much!

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I just tried absorb. It cost more than 20 MP, but only gives 7 when triggered.
What's the point?


Absorb should be cast off a Channeling, unless you have a mountain of MP to play around with. It's mostly used defensively as a layer to prevent spells and Spirit Attacks from triggering Spirit Shield or Spark of Life.

If you put any AP into Better Absorb, I recommend resetting. You don't need it yet.

And don't force yourself to play on the hardest difficulties. You'll get there eventually, but for now just play on a difficulty setting that you can handle.

QUOTE(tychocelchu @ Aug 18 2013, 02:22) *

n125 & pk678353 - i had a look at that list, it is interesting thanks! how come i can't find my monsters there? more importantly - how much gifts do those top end monsters bring in? is it worth it to try level your monsters up that high?


That's a database of monsters that were scanned by players running a certain script. Your monsters aren't there because they haven't been scanned and uploaded to the server the script points to.

Most people won't be able to get their monsters up as high as Kodou Yuki or Eila. The amount of crystals you need is immense. Aiming for PL500~1000 is more realistic.


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I have a question for our wonderful, bombastic experts.

Besides Cure and Protect, which supportive & depreciating spells are worthwhile and which are a waste of time?

Much praises be due to the Experts!


Haste, Shadow Veil, Spark of Life, Spirit Shield, Regen, Arcane Focus (mage) or Heartseeker (melee), Weaken, Silence, and Imperil (mage, and maybe melee) are what I'd consider essential. There are a few other Supportive and Deprecating spells that are worth consideration as well, but by the time you get through this list, you'll be able to come to your own decision about them.
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post Aug 18 2013, 13:17
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How do we maximize the of Vampire, of Illithid, or of Banshee weapons?
Because, you know, their siphon is so minuscule.

Oh, oh, and what's the point of non-prefixed equipment against prefixed ones?
Extra elemental or void attack, I feel, is very helpful.

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post Aug 18 2013, 13:45
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Ignore siphon weapons -- they aren't very useful. Stick with a Slaughter weapon, or a Balance weapon if you're regularly having difficulty hitting things.

The point of non-prefixed weapons is to make ethereal and elemental weapons special. Not all loot can be good, right? Although, if you happen to find a really nice non-prefixed weapon, it can be somewhat redeemed by getting it the Hollowforged potency (i.e., Void damage and Void Strike) at Potency Level 10, but it will still be lacking a second strike that ethereal and elemental weapons are capable of getting.
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post Aug 18 2013, 14:24
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QUOTE(n125 @ Aug 18 2013, 13:45) *

Ignore siphon weapons -- they aren't very useful. Stick with a Slaughter weapon, or a Balance weapon if you're regularly having difficulty hitting things.

The point of non-prefixed weapons is to make ethereal and elemental weapons special. Not all loot can be good, right? Although, if you happen to find a really nice non-prefixed weapon, it can be somewhat redeemed by getting it the Hollowforged potency (i.e., Void damage and Void Strike) at Potency Level 10, but it will still be lacking a second strike that ethereal and elemental weapons are capable of getting.

I've always kept my accuracy over 100%, that's why I'm curious why siphon exist.

Hahaha, nice answer for the non-prefixed ones. I'm now gonna rid myself of non-prefixed weapons. Some purchased before I know the existence of free shop. Will even newb gonna need it if I am to donate them? Of course the bellow fine will be bazaared.

Now, the really advice seeking question,
(1) The best offhand weapon for Dual Wielding? of Nimble or of Balance?
(2) Best raising proficiency method without raising level? Because my prof is just a bit over 1/10 of my level (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Grinding is boring (and the credit drop is low) Item word is, well, I don't have a good weapon to upgrade.
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post Aug 18 2013, 14:45
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i am at Lv150 is there another level i get another Title for or is Ascended the highest
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post Aug 18 2013, 14:54
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i am at Lv150 is there another level i get another Title for or is Ascended the highest


Dovahkiin is the highest, but no-one really uses it. Godslayer starts at 200 and is the most often used rank.
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post Aug 18 2013, 14:59
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i am at Lv150 is there another level i get another Title for or is Ascended the highest


http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Ranks
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post Aug 18 2013, 15:01
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QUOTE(clarkiest @ Aug 18 2013, 20:24) *

I've always kept my accuracy over 100%, that's why I'm curious why siphon exist.

Hahaha, nice answer for the non-prefixed ones. I'm now gonna rid myself of non-prefixed weapons. Some purchased before I know the existence of free shop. Will even newb gonna need it if I am to donate them? Of course the bellow fine will be bazaared.

Now, the really advice seeking question,
(1) The best offhand weapon for Dual Wielding? of Nimble or of Balance?
(2) Best raising proficiency method without raising level? Because my prof is just a bit over 1/10 of my level (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Grinding is boring (and the credit drop is low) Item word is, well, I don't have a good weapon to upgrade.

- Donate your gears at own will. But those non-prefixed weapons, better bazaar them. "Newb" should be smart enough to go after ethereal or elemental weapons.
- Balance, because nothing beats high Offhand Strike chance. Get Nimble if you can't find a "good" Balance weapon.
- Grind, grind and more grinding. Spam, spam and more spamming. That's all there to it.

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i am at Lv150 is there another level i get another Title for or is Ascended the highest

Clear the "Sealed Power" arena to get the "Destined" title. When you reach Lvl200, clear "The Trio and the Tree" to obtain "Godslayer" title.

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post Aug 18 2013, 23:11
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QUOTE(n125 @ Aug 18 2013, 06:45) *

Ignore siphon weapons -- they aren't very useful. Stick with a Slaughter weapon, or a Balance weapon if you're regularly having difficulty hitting things.

The point of non-prefixed weapons is to make ethereal and elemental weapons special. Not all loot can be good, right? Although, if you happen to find a really nice non-prefixed weapon, it can be somewhat redeemed by getting it the Hollowforged potency (i.e., Void damage and Void Strike) at Potency Level 10, but it will still be lacking a second strike that ethereal and elemental weapons are capable of getting.


If he's willing to throw infusions at it, a hollowforged vanilla can have up to 3 strikes, same as elemental/ethereals. It'll just never have the zero B/I of an ethereal or the Cure bonus of a Hallowed. Fiery/Arctic/Shocking/Tempestuous/Demonic weapons are basically vanilla with a set, permanent strike already there, since the EDB does nothing for melee.

But yeah, I suppose outside Magnificent Estocs of Slaughter, no one really buys vanilla weapons these days.
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post Aug 19 2013, 04:20
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Thanks everybody!!!
I know basic of what to do right now.

QUOTE(clarkiest @ Aug 18 2013, 16:02) *

Oh, shit! I was looking at level scalling page and found nothing!
How can I survive IWBTH? Battletoads already exhaust my pots in just few rounds!

Anyway, thank you very much!

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I just tried absorb. It cost more than 20 MP, but only gives 7 when triggered.
What's the point?

You don't need to worry about mana.Keep your intelligence bellow your lvl.In my case, I Just need 1 Greater mana potion to clear lvl 200 arena in normal difficulty or if i'm lucky i don't need item at all.Because power gem would be enough.
My style also DW and light armor at low lvl. But i change to 2H because I can finish monster quicker than using DW.
For battletoad and IWTB.I also have trouble to clear it.maybe because Low in health and mana so we agi user need wait and leveling up more.In my case right now i don have any problem for nightmare difficulty on any arena, and i could beat easy 100 wave monster on lvl 200 arena in around 10 minutes in normal difficulty.quick enough i guess.
And someone tell me on previous post "Life got easier on lvl 220++".(https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=22234&st=35220)

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post Aug 19 2013, 04:25
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GC sell vanilla exq estoc of slaughter (max lvl) more than 500k in his shop (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

For this patch , just leave INT for melee , now it useless (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

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post Aug 19 2013, 05:11
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Sorry make a mistake i mean wisdom not int.My int just 130.And I don't plan to lvling up any more than 150.I Need some for spirit point in my earlier lvl.
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post Aug 19 2013, 07:34
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QUOTE(zanky @ Aug 19 2013, 04:20) *

Thanks everybody!!!
I know basic of what to do right now.
You don't need to worry about mana.Keep your intelligence bellow your lvl.In my case, I Just need 1 Greater mana potion to clear lvl 200 arena in normal difficulty or if i'm lucky i don't need item at all.Because power gem would be enough.

I don't know, I can't survive without regen lately. And sometimes, about every 10 turns, I must cast cure. Gems don't drop that often.

My current stat, just after losing at arena.
Stupid mistake, really, not to cast cure when my HP is about 500.
Well, I was only against 3 monster (after downing 5 or 6 other), regen on, and confident went through my nose.

I always played at hell or nintendo from the start. Now I feel that my prof is too low, turn to only hard difficulty.
A bit strange since monster died after two strikes, so I lower my armor. But damn, can't survive without good armor! wearing good armor again, and proceed playing games without thrill.

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post Aug 19 2013, 07:53
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@clarkiest At your lvl, you must think which one is important to cast, regen or cure. actually you must cast regen and sometimes you will need cure.cast both of it if necesarry.if your mana is low, increase wisdom a little bit (i have 150 wisdom now).and upgrade skill rat pack.DW and agi is hard at first time.some times i also die if i don't carrefull enough.
At your lvl i think it wise to bring 1 or 2 health pot and mana pot for the rest.If you could not survive on higher difficulty, just stay low and keep steady.try nintendo or hell for random encounter for large exp.
If you chose light armor. you must consider use agi more than endurance.well it's up to you.
Look this wiki
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Play_Styles
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Fighting_Styles
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_Advice

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I use int for spirit point.130 int=26 SP

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post Aug 19 2013, 09:22
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It's really a simple matter of math. I'm not informed in the new spell duration formulas (only one person is), but before regen was ALWAYS much more cost-effective than cure, especially regen II. It's possible to stack enough holy EDB to make spot-curing more effective once you account for regen's overflow but I really doubt he's dual wielding hallowed weapons.


Anyway, determine (HP healed by cure / cost of cure) and ((HP healed by Regen * turns) / cost of regen) and you'll figure out which to use. My money is on regen, even at your low level.
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post Aug 19 2013, 13:51
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Someone know max lvl on Proficiency?
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post Aug 19 2013, 13:58
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Someone know max lvl on Proficiency?


Effective proficiency can be seen on the right-side scroll section of the character page.

Base proficiencies are capped at a player's current level. However, bonus proficiency points on equipment allow players to exceed their cap.

Source: http://ehwiki.org/wiki/proficiency#Effective_Proficiency
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post Aug 19 2013, 14:06
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So if i'm lvl 200, My max Proficiency is 200 excluding bonus from equip?If it that case, then max Proficiency only 500.
Max player lvl is 500, right?
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post Aug 19 2013, 14:47
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When is the best time to raise a monster?
I have two chaos token already, but I'm not confident I got what it takes.
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