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Well, I bought my Exquisite Ethereal Club of Slaughter for 200k

(My club is open to judgment too, I don't mind if someone chimes in)

Very fair price for a nice club....

That estoc is garbage barely worth 50k it needs to be elemental at least, you really need that extra hit.
PA turns should be 25% and 7(max) turns.

And that club is decent, i wouldn't have payed more then 100K for it though.
Stun should be 18-25% 4(max) turns.

4 pabs is a must if you want to get butcher and swift strike only.

And Solarhawk mind telling me who did your IW, i'm looking for someone to do it cheap.

A friend did it for me. I'll let him speak up if he decides to do so, but as far as I know, he's not into doing IW service.

Thank you, the script I use to calculate base stats include the butcher bonus. Makes it a little bit harder to see wether the base stats are good or not.

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=3816426242
I bought this thing from gc's auction for 250k, was it a decent buy or did I horribly overpay? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Sorry to say, but I think you overpaid..... No prefix on the weapon means no extra strike and not ethereal. Take a look at chazers last auction. the ethereal went for 800k.

5Butcher means 0.02% base stat x 5 = 10%, like Lement said. So 73.12=1.10x, where x is the original base damage, that means it had original base of 66.47 WD, which is not exquisite max.

The good thing is, you know now. I used to buy gear in the bazaar until level 200, then I found there was a WTS forum. I spent alot of credits on jank gear instead of porn..... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

thing about vanilla weapons, is they don't live up to their potential til they've been maxed. elem strike aint as big a deal for 2hand (as opposed to 1h/dw) and you can dual infusion. void strike does way more damage and is the primary concern. 2nd when it comes to IWing, the first 5 levels are way easier to get than the last 5. So you overpaid for the cheaper first 5 levels. Still if you somehow found the time to max it (or pay someone to do some of it), i've seen Maxed vanilla exq estocs go for 600k or so, so could still make something of it.

i've seen Maxed vanilla exq estocs go for 600k

In old threads I've seen high level players profiting from maxing weapons however if you pay for the service, usually won't it exceed that price?

I'm still only doing hourlies mostly, but I have been doing some crude IW IWBTH to grind some proficiencies up on 2h so I can actually do IW stuff on my gear when I find worthwhile items, at the suggestion of etothex. I've occasionally done a few arenas as well, but just haven't gotten to the point where I can do a large number of rounds on IWBTH yet (also I've been throwing around a lot of deprecating spells).

The above mentioned monsters are not mine. I'm getting them from the list of top 50 player created monsters, shown in the Monster Lab Bestiary. The calculation part is in reference to the Monster Lab page on the wiki, under sub-section Monster PL vs. Player Level.

Mingyannu would definitely be memorable for a lot of people, he's a giant, and heavy armor is weak to crushing. He's also pretty well buffed, which would make him memorable to more people, too. Like Kodou Yuki who is maxed out on PL, and speculated to be maxed out on chaos upgrades, too.

At your level with the weapons that you've got, you should easily clear the first 7 or 8 levels of the Arena in IWBTH. If you have all 15 battle item slots trained/bought/highway robbed, you don't even have to worry about conserving mana. If you practice mana conservation, Lv90 or Lv100 should also be possible.

i find more rewarding playing at nintendo and clear a more than double amount of rounds than playing at IWBTH.
sure, if i had the time and will to clear everyting at IWBTH daily i would do so, but the time i can and want to dedicate to this game is limited and the numbers tell me that i get more not plauing at IWBTH.

i go for IWBTH only for REs and RoB arenas.

Certainly there's nothing wrong with playing at a level that you are comfortable - for the longest time Nintendo was also my niche and I have managed to clear all of the Arena levels up to Lv200 in Nintendo, Lv225 in Hard (haven't attempted Lv250 yet). Having done that, I figure it's time to ratchet up the stakes another notch or two and play BT or IWBTH.

I have a question for the senpais; Arena Level 225, the look of the mobs departed from the usual set up of swarms of player created monsters to Boss class monsters accompanied by 3 minions towards the latter half of the level. Am I correct in assuming that the mobs in Lv250 and Lv300 will be similar to those found in Lv200, only more stronger? It was a hard level to finish because it's the most boring level I've played so far. Definitely not a level to play when you are tired, there is a good chance you will nod off during mid-play.

Am I correct in assuming that the mobs in Lv250 and Lv300 will be similar to those found in Lv200, only more stronger?

It would appear that way. More boss monsters, more levels to grind and a stronger final fight. Slightly better drops too theoretically if you have faith.

Harder Better Faster Stronger

In old threads I've seen high level players profiting from maxing weapons however if you pay for the service, usually won't it exceed that price?

yes. costs a lot more to pay someone to straight up max it. in the previous example probably wouldn't make up the cost, hence would need to do some of the IWing himself.

I have a question for the senpais; Arena Level 225, the look of the mobs departed from the usual set up of swarms of player created monsters to Boss class monsters accompanied by 3 minions towards the latter half of the level. Am I correct in assuming that the mobs in Lv250 and Lv300 will be similar to those found in Lv200, only more stronger? It was a hard level to finish because it's the most boring level I've played so far. Definitely not a level to play when you are tired, there is a good chance you will nod off during mid-play.

Yep, 250 and 300 are even more schoolgirls. 250 introduces rounds with 2 girls, 300 rounds with 3.

Wiki has complete round listings for all arenas.

Yep, 250 and 300 are even more schoolgirls. 250 introduces rounds with 2 girls, 300 rounds with 3.

Wiki has complete round listings for all arenas.

Thanks PK, just what the doctor ordered. I'd better get the last 2 Battle Item Slots and the 3 Scroll Slots before tackling Lv250 - and play while alert! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

At your level with the weapons that you've got, you should easily clear the first 7 or 8 levels of the Arena in IWBTH. If you have all 15 battle item slots trained/bought/highway robbed, you don't even have to worry about conserving mana. If you practice mana conservation, Lv90 or Lv100 should also be possible.
Certainly there's nothing wrong with playing at a level that you are comfortable - for the longest time Nintendo was also my niche and I have managed to clear all of the Arena levels up to Lv200 in Nintendo, Lv225 in Hard (haven't attempted Lv250 yet). Having done that, I figure it's time to ratchet up the stakes another notch or two and play BT or IWBTH.

Yeah, I have only trained +2 battle items, and none of the scrolls or infusions upgraded. I figure if I can manage to be "self sustaining" for that, then when I do get IA and work that in, I'll fly through a bit faster. I've cleared the first 3 arenas on IWBTH, just never tried the rest. I also did the first three without any items, so I'm sure I'll be able to do more than just them.

Also "weapons" is not really accurate. I only have the one that's "good", and well, this old thing.

I've been looking for a better rapier, but most of the auctions end Saturday fairly early morning for me, and I can't be bothered trying to watch them as actively as they deserve for a rapier that is of adequate quality. That being said, I'll still probably IW it a couple levels just to see if I get swift strike or such, unless I get a replacement before I get around to it.

you can use proxy bid (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

mm
what a function from Full Snowflake set (Twinkling Snowflake + Glittering Snowflake + Sparkling Snowflake + Shimmering Snowflake + Gleaming Snowflake + Glinting Snowflake + Scintillating Snowflake)?
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event artifacts (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

event artifacts (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

then we just to offer it at shrine for snowflake as same as normal artifact?

then we just to offer it at shrine for snowflake as same as normal artifact?

yeah (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

but the prize for complete them is to get special trophy that better than noodly (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

(is over , so you need another event (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) )

0.76
- Playing a large number of rounds at lower difficulties will now reduce the monster drop rate for a period of time.
-- It starts kicking in after 1000 rounds and reaches max effect after 2000 rounds. The reduction caps at 75% for Normal, 50% for Hard and 25% for Nightmare. Hell and above has no drop reduction.
-- The round counter cools down at a rate of 1 per minute (out of combat only).

Is there a way to know how close you are to the limit? Also does it count rounds at any difficulty but only affect lower difficulty rounds?

Eg if I played 1000 hard rounds then I played normal rounds would I start having a negative drop multiplier.

I want to do some grindfest and IW but it doesn't seem worthwhile at the moment until I can finish higher difficulty rounds at a faster speed.

that the reason why high lvl player now do hellfest or IWBTHfest (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

some godly mages like uno , danixxx , and hito can go beyond 600 IWBTHfest in 1 hour (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

HTTP , i sure he can finish IWBTHfest with his godly melee set (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Well, I bought my Exquisite Ethereal Club of Slaughter for 200k, and it was level 0 and I don't feel like I was ripped off. Since then, I leveled it up some, and got some help from someone else to level it up more, and he charged me 80k, which was cheaper than IW service and he told me he was learning some from testing different setups doing the runs.

Differences: you don't have elemental or ethereal on it, and no endurance. PA is pretty good on it, (better than my club's proc lol)... neither of our weapons would be exq. max damage as treesloth stated. I think you may have overpaid a little bit, but not exactly "ripped off"

(My club is open to judgment too, I don't mind if someone chimes in)

Thank you, the script I use to calculate base stats include the butcher bonus. Makes it a little bit harder to see wether the base stats are good or not.

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=3816426242
I bought this thing from gc's auction for 250k, was it a decent buy or did I horribly overpay? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Be careful of ban streak of some people using IW-ing bugs

Tenboro could be relentless if you're found out.

Well, the ethereal is quite nice for 200k, since it has Butcher and Swift Strike

This post has been edited by Frostbite: Aug 11 2013, 19:36

Be careful of ban streak of some people using IW-ing bugs

Tenboro could be relentless if you're found out.

Well, the ethereal is quite nice for 200k, since it has Butcher and Swift Strike

You do realize that the club I linked can ONLY get butcher and swift strike, right? It has all 4 PABs that clubs can get, and the only options for weapons are Str, Dex, Agi, End, Butcher, and Swift Strike. See THE WIKI and it's pretty clear. As for the estoc, it has Str, Dex, and Agi, so the only options are End, Butcher and Swift Strike. Tenboro has stated before that the system leans towards giving increases that IW has already given you over giving another increase, but that's still luck. I have another club that is only str and dex on it, and it got butcher the first two increases. These are not IW bugs. If you're talking about the one where people use infusions to block it... that only applies to Armor. Not weapons. Not Staff. Not even shields.

Sorry if this seems a bit animated, but I don't take kindly to people insinuating that I'm cheating, especially when they aren't even using factual evidence.