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post Aug 9 2013, 19:47
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QUOTE(saddasads @ Aug 10 2013, 01:45) *

What monster should I create? Who is the strongest? (Besides Cirno, of course)
Is there some chart or guide?


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post Aug 9 2013, 19:51
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i'm mage
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HP 5185, MP 796, SP 429
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can i win at RoB, Real Life challenge, normal level?
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post Aug 9 2013, 20:59
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QUOTE(mirigore @ Aug 9 2013, 12:51) *

i'm mage
lvl 180
HP 5185, MP 796, SP 429
this is my stats
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can i win at RoB, Real Life challenge, normal level?


Get Imperil if you can. RL has 75% resist vs. everything. You may well be able to win without it, but it will take as long as a BT/IWBTH clear would with it because you won't be able to knock that resist down to a much more reasonable 40% or so, plus the MMI bonus. A bit of cycling to set up procs to explode (and more importantly, get that -25 specific resist) might even be worth it. Be prepared with some SP pots and maybe Scrolls of Life to eat some SP attacks. Other than that Regen will cover you. He doesn't have that absurd an amount of HP at Normal, but you'll be doing absolute shit for damage.

Can you link your gear?

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post Aug 9 2013, 21:50
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Can someone calc how much credits it would cost for me to go from lvl 10 lotd to lvl 15-16?

As Malenk said he started getting leg drops around that, so far i haven't gotten any so i'm willing to fork out for those trainings.
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post Aug 9 2013, 22:00
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Oh and how do you manage to find the current value of the equipment in your inventory?
I have the following items in my inventory but am unsure of their value ...

[i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/vROvFcR.png


Take everything below Superior and sell them to the Bazaar, there's no demand for them from other players. Some exceptions do exist, Ethereal, Power and Shade equipments or weapons that deal out heavy damages hold some value for the Fine class but by and large they are mostly Bazaar fodder.
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post Aug 9 2013, 22:48
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QUOTE(PK678353 @ Aug 10 2013, 01:59) *

Get Imperil if you can. RL has 75% resist vs. everything. You may well be able to win without it, but it will take as long as a BT/IWBTH clear would with it because you won't be able to knock that resist down to a much more reasonable 40% or so, plus the MMI bonus. A bit of cycling to set up procs to explode (and more importantly, get that -25 specific resist) might even be worth it. Be prepared with some SP pots and maybe Scrolls of Life to eat some SP attacks. Other than that Regen will cover you. He doesn't have that absurd an amount of HP at Normal, but you'll be doing absolute shit for damage.

Can you link your gear?


fuuuh (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
i finished it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
without imperil
i won't take it again until i get imperil

my gear is just random medium equipment
but thank for your information (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Aug 9 2013, 23:23
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QUOTE(Pillowgirl @ Aug 9 2013, 13:50) *

Can someone calc how much credits it would cost for me to go from lvl 10 lotd to lvl 15-16?

As Malenk said he started getting leg drops around that, so far i haven't gotten any so i'm willing to fork out for those trainings.

1,086,022 to level 15 and 1,528,032 to level 16.
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post Aug 10 2013, 00:31
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first column: LotD level
second column: cost to train that level
third column: cost to train UP to that level

sorry if it's not formatted.

1 2000 2000
2 4601 6601
3 8048 14648
4 12609 27258
5 18621 45879
6 26507 72386
7 36807 109192
8 50203 159396
9 67567 226963
10 90002 316965
11 118907 435872
12 156060 591932
13 203708 795640
14 264702 1060342
15 342646 1402988
16 442100 1845087
17 568830 2413918
18 730124 3144042
19 935186 4079228
20 1195641 5274869
21 1526166 6801035
22 1945281 8746316
23 2476356 11222671
24 3148870 14371541
25 3999999 18371540
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post Aug 10 2013, 00:54
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How much would something like this be worth?
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=ad87bc65f1
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post Aug 10 2013, 01:06
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QUOTE(nightshadow2239 @ Aug 10 2013, 00:54) *

How much would something like this be worth?
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=ad87bc65f1


It's a dagger, chuck it into the bazaar.


Seriously though, less than 10k most likely. Someone might pay a little bit more for the binding and level 2, but eh. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

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post Aug 10 2013, 01:26
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QUOTE(Pillowgirl @ Aug 9 2013, 15:50) *

Can someone calc how much credits it would cost for me to go from lvl 10 lotd to lvl 15-16?

As Malenk said he started getting leg drops around that, so far i haven't gotten any so i'm willing to fork out for those trainings.


Soooo tantalizing. Yes, put your credits in there. Just don't expect to immediately notice the difference...it's awful gradual. But it works, have faith.

I also recommend changing playing styles too, I suspect an undocumented bonus from changing from any long term used styles to anything you never usually use. Which is absolutely unprovable and very susceptible to bias, but possibly rewarding.
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post Aug 10 2013, 01:34
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QUOTE(erwtsnert @ Aug 10 2013, 01:06) *

It's a dagger, chuck it into the bazaar.
Seriously though, less than 10k most likely. Someone might pay a little bit more for the binding and level 2, but eh. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)


Why would it be worth so little compared to other items though? As far as I can tell, the stats of it matches most of the other 100k+ items.

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post Aug 10 2013, 01:39
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QUOTE(nightshadow2239 @ Aug 9 2013, 16:34) *

Why would it be worth so little compared to other items though? As far as I can tell, the stats of it matches most of the other 500k+ items.

slaughter on dagger is mostly useless, since daggers and wakis are weakest damage wise. Wakis of course are rarer and have a different utilization (niten). Nimble or balance suffix on daggers would have utility in offhand and would be more sought after.
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post Aug 10 2013, 01:42
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QUOTE(etothex @ Aug 10 2013, 01:39) *

slaughter on dagger is mostly useless, since daggers and wakis are weakest damage wise. Wakis of course are rarer and have a different utilization (niten). Nimble or balance suffix on daggers would have utility in offhand and would be more sought after.


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post Aug 10 2013, 01:46
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Oh and ya, how much would this be worth then?
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=d5c04bd9bc

And is it better than that dagger I showed earlier?
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post Aug 10 2013, 01:49
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QUOTE(etothex @ Aug 9 2013, 16:39) *

slaughter on dagger is mostly useless, since daggers and wakis are weakest damage wise. Wakis of course are rarer and have a different utilization (niten). Nimble or balance suffix on daggers would have utility in offhand and would be more sought after.


Why can't slaughter be used in the offhand?
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post Aug 10 2013, 01:59
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QUOTE(zen_zen @ Aug 9 2013, 16:49) *

Why can't slaughter be used in the offhand?

nothing's stopping you. i said it's not sought after due to the suffix not being as useful as the others is all.

a deeper explanation is that only half the attack from offhand weapon is added, while 50% of accuracy is added to offhand strike chance, and +50% bonus to parry stat. So the gains from pumping damage in offhand is not as useful.
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post Aug 10 2013, 02:06
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QUOTE(zen_zen @ Aug 10 2013, 01:49) *

Why can't slaughter be used in the offhand?


Might as well get an axe or club then
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post Aug 10 2013, 03:40
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QUOTE(Yuuki17 @ Aug 8 2013, 06:28) *

Estimated max monster PL encounter:
【If level + difficulty modifier is 100+】((Player's effective level + Difficulty Modifier) ^ 1.27) - 247?
IWBTH is estimated at +100 for modifier
The system is biased towards picking monsters closer to the PL cap.
So you will mostly face monsters around 1344PL, in IWBTH anyway.


Unfortunately, that formula is outdated. As stated in the wiki data thread, it's been noted a few times, as well.

So for me during this screenshot below: ((209+100)^1.27)-247 would be 1206. I've been fighting him for several levels already.
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post Aug 10 2013, 04:17
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QUOTE(Solarhawk @ Aug 9 2013, 19:40) *

Unfortunately, that formula is outdated. As stated in the wiki data thread, it's been noted a few times, as well.

So for me during this screenshot below: ((209+100)^1.27)-247 would be 1206. I've been fighting him for several levels already.
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I wrote, "estimated" & left the question mark in the formula to indicate this.
Until a more accurate formula is found, it should give an idea of why they haven't seen their monsters though.
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