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post Aug 9 2013, 12:56
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What is the minimum amount of crystals needed to get a monster to pl 200?
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post Aug 9 2013, 12:57
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Aug 9 2013, 01:50) *

how hard for me if i change into mages at my lvl (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
( main reason why i maybe want become mages is marathons ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

take alot of time with my DW set (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)


Changing isn't difficult. Just get new equipment and grind your proficiencies to a respectable level. Then start on forging, provided that your equipment is worthy.

It takes danixxx 20 minutes to do IWBTH DwD, and hito over 40. So, I estimate that it will probably take you in excess of 60 minutes, since you'd be a new convert and all. But I don't know; maybe I'm underestimating the speed at which holy and dark mages can get through it.


QUOTE(erwtsnert @ Aug 9 2013, 03:21) *

What's considered a 'fast' clear by the way? The marathons take ages for me to clear (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)


You can never play HV too quickly, because who the hell wants to sit there and stare at a clicky game for longer than they have to? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Just keep trying to improve.
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post Aug 9 2013, 13:00
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@treesloth

maybe dark , coz i got mag and exq fenrir more frequently compare with heimdall (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

main reason is dark deal more damage to those girl (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)



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thx for the advice (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Aug 9 2013, 13:08
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Aug 9 2013, 13:00) *

main reason is dark deal more damage to those girl (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


wat?

Edit: oh wait, you say with your current gear, silly me.

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post Aug 9 2013, 13:22
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So the wiki says

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Grindfest / Item World: A variable Round Bonus starts low and increases with each round played, maxing out at round 100.


Is this bonus any decent? I'm just doing my daily arena runs right now but might think about doing some grindfest. I never seem to get anything good while clearing challenges. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Aug 9 2013, 13:47
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Aug 9 2013, 20:00) *

@treesloth

maybe dark , coz i got mag and exq fenrir more frequently compare with heimdall (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

main reason is dark deal more damage to those girl (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
@n125

thx for the advice (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


I think the schoolgirls are weak to both holy and dark, but I don't know if they are weaker to one or the other.

I have unforged Exmax gear, and lightly forged old staff (still struggling to get Econo5 on a new staff so I can start forging it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) ), but I can't do DwD marathon. I just don't deal enough damage. I think you need MagMax to Legendary stats on each gear, and need to forge them substantially. Your staff also needs to be highly forged as well......

Personally I think holy might be better than dark..... but you should probably ask HTTP. I think he's the only one with maxed gears in both dark and holy.

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post Aug 9 2013, 13:53
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my equipment :
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=cf52f6ab98
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=70de71c1cc
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=5a5020f50b
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=3a1066d75e
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=2a1e6c0bce
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=210bd0297f
i haven't buy any innate arcana.
can anybody give me advice what should i do in the future?
should i use the credit to buy 50 hath and buy innate arcana, or buy better weapon or any idea?
thanks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Aug 9 2013, 14:04
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The only requirement that DwD has is time. Imperil everything and kill. When you get low on MP (say, 1000~1500), Silence the schoolgirls and proc CM/ET using a cheap spell, like Weaken or a T1 elemental. If you use holy, you can also use Drain/Ether Theft to recover MP. When you see your Overcharge gauge full, use Focus to convert it into MP; you might want to stop at 50~75 OC, just in case you have a buff that's about to expire so that you can quickly jump into Spirit Stance and recast it. It's easy (but boring) to get through IWBTH DwD without using a single mana potion.
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post Aug 9 2013, 14:12
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@danixxx

i forget to add dark deal more damage compare with elemental ...


@tree

go back to heavy (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


@n125

how fast you clearing IWBTH DwD with your elemental ??



@k1r4

i think it better you buy IA or change your hath into credits and upgrade your LoTD , that too low compare with your LvL

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post Aug 9 2013, 14:15
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QUOTE(k1r4y4m4t0 @ Aug 9 2013, 11:53) *


well, innate arcana would help for sure.
with the actual hath rate taking the first level would cost around 400k credits.
i had spark of like on my IA1 for a long time and loved it.

your equipment seems good enough even if at your level i would start looking around for a good estoc.
i don't know if you can afford to go around with an estoc in full shade, but i'm not an expert in this field.
at the moment i'm going around in 3*kevlar/leather and 2*shade of the fleet.

i would not keep dex and agi so much lower than str/end.
2 points into dex give you the same damage as one point into str, but also give you 4 times the crit chance and also accuracy. try to keep dex at half the exp cost of str, at the very least.
same goes for agi since you are full shade and you need to get as much evade as you can (agi also gives phys mitigation and attack speed now so don't let it fall too much behind str/end).

on the training department i suggest you invest into LotD asap.
i started getting legendary drops only after i trained LotD up to 15 or 16.
luck is also involved but i had zero leg drops before and 5 after, so i suggest you train it some.
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post Aug 9 2013, 14:32
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Aug 9 2013, 05:12) *

@danixxx

i forget to add dark deal more damage compare with elemental ...
@tree

go back to heavy (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
@n125

how fast you clearing IWBTH DwD with your elemental ??
@k1r4

i think it better you buy IA or change your hath into credits and upgrade your LoTD , that too low compare with your LvL


I've never actually timed myself, but I estimate it takes me between 50-70 minutes, depending on how much I concentrate and on how laggy the game is. It's so boring though, that a lot of times it takes me over 2 hours because I get up and leave halfway through to do something else. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Aug 9 2013, 14:54
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QUOTE(n125 @ Aug 9 2013, 21:04) *

The only requirement that DwD has is time.


Yeah, I guess that's my problem.... My attention span is so short, I quit after about 80 rounds..... and go to IW a staff... an even bigger waste of time!!! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Aug 9 2013, 15:04
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QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Aug 9 2013, 19:54) *

Yeah, I guess that's my problem.... My attention span is so short, I quit after about 80 rounds..... and go to IW a staff... an even bigger waste of time!!! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

still not get eco5 , sloth (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

that why usually my first arena is DwD (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Aug 9 2013, 15:06
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QUOTE(nobody_xxx @ Aug 9 2013, 22:04) *

still not get eco5 , sloth (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

that why usually my first arena is DwD (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


nope, I always get Endurance, or Agility, or Archmage first. So I have to reset. 193! IW rounds for this staff.... blegghhh
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post Aug 9 2013, 15:31
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QUOTE(treesloth16 @ Aug 9 2013, 20:06) *

nope, I always get Endurance, or Agility, or Archmage first. So I have to reset. 193! IW rounds for this staff.... blegghhh

193 rounds , at IWBTH run usually you gain 3 lvl so it easier to find it eco or not (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

why not use IW service ??

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post Aug 9 2013, 16:22
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IW service for staff is not worth it cos of the high chance for dex and agi.
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post Aug 9 2013, 18:38
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Thanks for the help earlier, hentai fusion.

I'm now wondering about what equipment I should have at my current level.
I'm only wielding what I've gotten from monsters / requested from the free shops at the moment and it's taking me quite a bit of effort to beat down IWBTH setting monsters in Grindfest.

Here's what I'm wielding at the moment:
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=d24b4e3fc4
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=40b79f4816
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=71f26c9ca2
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=6fda83166f
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=3f1349de0d
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=9cfcf31fa9

Should I buy an Ethereal mace? Or would it be too expensive for me (only have 14k credits) at the moment? Are there also other equipment that you'd recommend I should buy? I've checked the Equipment section under the wiki but it doesn't help me much / doesn't tell me what prefixes / suffixes of equipment that I need to offset monster damage / improve crushing procs.

Thanks again!

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Oh and how do you manage to find the current value of the equipment in your inventory?
I have the following items in my inventory but am unsure of their value ...

[i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/vROvFcR.png

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post Aug 9 2013, 19:14
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QUOTE(wwgenesis @ Aug 10 2013, 00:38) *

Thanks for the help earlier, hentai fusion.

I'm now wondering about what equipment I should have at my current level.
I'm only wielding what I've gotten from monsters / requested from the free shops at the moment and it's taking me quite a bit of effort to beat down IWBTH setting monsters in Grindfest.

you are still 100 levels too early to do IWBTH...

Should I buy an Ethereal mace? Or would it be too expensive for me (only have 14k credits) at the moment? Are there also other equipment that you'd recommend I should buy?

decent ethereal maces are expansive... they can easily go for 1 mil.

I've checked the Equipment section under the wiki but it doesn't help me much / doesn't tell me what prefixes / suffixes of equipment that I need to offset monster damage / improve crushing procs.

you are looking at the wrong wiki pages. try digging thru http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Category:HentaiVerse.

Thanks again!

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Oh and how do you manage to find the current value of the equipment in your inventory?
I have the following items in my inventory but am unsure of their value ...

[i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/vROvFcR.png

supply and demand. go take a look at the WTS and WTB threads...


see replies in red...
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post Aug 9 2013, 19:15
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QUOTE(wwgenesis @ Aug 9 2013, 18:38) *


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Oh and how do you manage to find the current value of the equipment in your inventory?
I have the following items in my inventory but am unsure of their value ...

[i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/vROvFcR.png


Go to the item/equipment shop and click on the one you want to see the price of, there's a price indicator at the bottom of the screen.

Try to get a full set of armor from 1 type, mixing light and heavy is not as effective as you won't get set bonuses. Exchange the mace for a mace of slaughter if possible, other suffixes(the word after the name of the equipment) are not too good.

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post Aug 9 2013, 19:45
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What monster should I create? Who is the strongest? (Besides Cirno, of course)
Is there some chart or guide?
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