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Apr 30 2013, 14:03
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xmagus
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QUOTE(n125 @ Apr 30 2013, 21:08)  Yeah, that's no good. Salvage it and hope you get High-Grade Metals, which you can flip for ~27k.
I recall that if your Level 0 PXP (required to Level 1) is above 3xx, it's pretty much guaranteed a HG mat, isn't it? Except I can't remember which number it is, but 343 seems like a shoo-in for me.
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Apr 30 2013, 14:14
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n125
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QUOTE(xmagus @ Apr 30 2013, 05:03)  I recall that if your Level 0 PXP (required to Level 1) is above 3xx, it's pretty much guaranteed a HG mat, isn't it? Except I can't remember which number it is, but 343 seems like a shoo-in for me.
No idea. Being able to tell from PXP whether or not you'll get an HG material is news to me; care to elaborate? I just lazily salvage nearly every exquisite+ item and my HG rate is about 20%.
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Apr 30 2013, 14:41
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nobody_xxx
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i think lvl 32x is the lowest equipment lvl chance for HG items ( for me ) always lag at this time (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) This post has been edited by ahenayau: Apr 30 2013, 14:42
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Apr 30 2013, 16:46
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xmagus
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QUOTE(n125 @ Apr 30 2013, 22:14)  No idea. Being able to tell from PXP whether or not you'll get an HG material is news to me; care to elaborate? I just lazily salvage nearly every exquisite+ item and my HG rate is about 20%.
Yeah, it was news to me as well. But I read it somewhere - quite possibly on this very thread. I just salvaged an Exquisite Cotton (PXP 320), and got a HG cloth. When I tried an Exquisite Plate (also PXP 320), I got a MG metals. So I suspect the cut-off is very near that range (320 - 330).
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Apr 30 2013, 18:09
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James Tyler
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Nevermind, I found HV equipment comparison and magic scores.
This post has been edited by James Tyler: Apr 30 2013, 20:08
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Apr 30 2013, 18:42
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T_Starrk
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I've actually gotten a hg from a /315 superior before. So the cut-off rate for hg is lower than you think, it's just extremely unlikely. Really any exquisite above 320 has semi-decent odds of returning a hg these days. Above 330 and you have really good odds, above 340 is a guarantee these days, imo.
This post has been edited by T_Starrk: Apr 30 2013, 18:45
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Apr 30 2013, 21:25
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Nightwishman
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Apr 30 2013, 21:33
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HNTI
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ahenayau or somebody with a good heavy set & 2h weapon : could you post (or PM me) you gear and weapon for reference how far behind I'm with gear ? My last post regarding clearing at least 50 rounds of IWBTH was ignored (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif). BTW is there much difference between Ethereal weapon and Hollowforged (except burden and interface)? http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=0ebb62cd54 Dmg is meh, but MC & Counter-Resist are nice. You rapier is also an upgrade to mine - so I like it xD. This post has been edited by HNTI: Apr 30 2013, 22:09
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Apr 30 2013, 21:58
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Nightwishman
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QUOTE(HNTI @ Apr 30 2013, 21:33)  ahenayau or somebody with a good heavy set & 2h weapon : could you post (or PM me) you gear and weapon for reference how far behind I'm with gear ? My last post regarding clearing at least 50 rounds of IWBTH was ignored (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif). BTW is there much difference between Ethereal weapon and Hollowforged (except burden and interface)? http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=0ebb62cd54 Dmg is meh, but MC & Counter-Resist are nice. You rapper is also an upgrade to mine - so I like it xD. its for sale.
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Apr 30 2013, 22:14
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HNTI
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Pm me with your offer. It's only a minor upgrade for me, so don't expect too much (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif).
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Apr 30 2013, 22:25
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kakashi524
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I have salvaged as high as 330, I believe, and gotten a Mid.
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Apr 30 2013, 22:52
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Nightwishman
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QUOTE(HNTI @ Apr 30 2013, 22:14)  Pm me with your offer. It's only a minor upgrade for me, so don't expect too much (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif). 500,000 DECICREDITS!
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Apr 30 2013, 23:49
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HNTI
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BTW is there much difference between Ethereal weapon and Hollowforged (except burden and interface)? I mean DMG-wise.
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Apr 30 2013, 23:55
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PK678353
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QUOTE(HNTI @ Apr 30 2013, 16:49)  BTW is there much difference between Ethereal weapon and Hollowforged (except burden and interface)? I mean DMG-wise.
Just the Burden/Interference. Depending on your setup that Burden might gimp your crit something terrible. Otherwise there is no difference.
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May 1 2013, 00:37
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Treia
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QUOTE(xmagus @ Apr 30 2013, 10:46)  Yeah, it was news to me as well. But I read it somewhere - quite possibly on this very thread. I just salvaged an Exquisite Cotton (PXP 320), and got a HG cloth.
When I tried an Exquisite Plate (also PXP 320), I got a MG metals.
So I suspect the cut-off is very near that range (320 - 330).
I read it recently as well, on PK678353's user talk page if I recall correctly. But being >300 doesn't "guarantee" a HG mat, unless forge exp changes salvage rates. I've salvaged a few since I read that and gotten lots of MG, no HG.
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May 1 2013, 02:25
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Malenk
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QUOTE(Treia @ Apr 30 2013, 22:37)  I read it recently as well, on PK678353's user talk page if I recall correctly. But being >300 doesn't "guarantee" a HG mat, unless forge exp changes salvage rates. I've salvaged a few since I read that and gotten lots of MG, no HG.
actually 300 PXP doesn't even guarantee a MG mat. for a decent/good chance of an HG you need around 330+
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May 1 2013, 02:55
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xtech22
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From all the salvaging i've done so far it seems like the range is around there: pxp 000-265 = default failure pxp 266-288 Low-grade pxp 289-313 Mid-grade pxp 314-340+ High-grade
Superiors do give HG but pretty much only the very high end one's with 314-316 pxp, and even then the chances are only like 10% at best or less usually 330+ gets me an HG, although only like 40% of the time, the other 60% being either MG or LG
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May 1 2013, 02:59
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k1r4y4m4t0
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we can do IW in 24hour once or we can keep doing it?
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May 1 2013, 03:11
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something2k3
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QUOTE(k1r4y4m4t0 @ Apr 30 2013, 17:59)  we can do IW in 24hour once or we can keep doing it?
there's no more cool down, it's been removed for quite some time now. so you can keep doing it.
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May 1 2013, 04:07
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Nightwishman
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QUOTE(Nightwishman @ Apr 30 2013, 21:25)  still looking for a base valuation on these, the fenrir staff in particular.
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