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post Apr 28 2013, 22:00
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QUOTE(James Tyler @ Apr 28 2013, 19:05) *

Sorry for the wall of text.
I've read most of the HV wiki. Several parts multiple times. My main goal at the moment is to level. To do this I do a few things (My priority tends to be in this order):

1. Hourly encounters on IWBTH by using spark of life. I've found usually give 300k+ exp every time I defeat it. I don't usually die but the few times I do die is usually because I couldn't get my buffs off at the beginning.

2. Do the arena when a new one opens up or when I a need that few thousand credits because I'm broke. (I should probably have more credits but I frequently used them all to download stuff I when I started)

3. I've been working my way up the Arena of Blood whenever I get the requisite number of tokens for an encounter I haven't done.

4. Use any left over stamina doing grindfest on nightmare/hell. I haven't done this as much lately because I had exams. I could usually make it to around 50 round before I had to start over. My strategy is to use the type of damage that most of the monster are weak to. I use HVstat to list weaknesses/resistances of monsters I've scanned. I tend to keep Regen, Protection, and Haste up constantly.

My equipment:
Fine Ebony Staff of Destruction
Exquisite frugal cap of the frost-born
Superior Phase Body of Mjolnir
Exquisite phase gloves of Mjolnir
Superior Frugal Cotton Pants of Warding
Superior Frugal Cotton Shoes of Protection

I also have this staff but have been using the other because it contributes more magic base damage.
My questions are:
1. Should I be using other equipment?
2. At what point should I use higher tier spells? I've been trying and failing to find the balance between amount of damage dealt out and damage received that uses the least mana.
3. Is there anything you'd recommend reading besides the wiki?

Also, I'm not exactly sure what to increase on the monsters in the monster labs. Is there anything that gives a better explanation than the advice part of the wiki did?

If there's anything else you'd like to say feel free and thank's for taking the time to read this.

Edit: I'd attached images of my stats but I don't see them. I uploaded them here [imgur.com] http://imgur.com/a/o2yGo#0


so like... you have 50? ability points devoted to attack spells... fire + ice + wind + elec + holy AND soul...and 0 points in imperil and shadow veil...

may want to consider a reset? focus on less elements and get some points in imperil/veil and eventually spirit tanks.
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post Apr 28 2013, 22:29
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Can anyone share what difficulty levels they used for clearing arenas when they were level 100 (realize might be a long time ago)? :-> Also any special equipment used (ex. potions mana, infusions.,etc)?

Can anyone share what difficulty levels they used for clearing arenas when they were level 100 (realize might be a long time ago)? :->

Also any special equipment used (ex. potions mana, infusions.,etc)?


i'm not totally sure but i think i was doing my arenas at hell on great stamina as an elemental mage with self found or bazaared equipment.
i was using a redwood of focus and gossamer clothes of the elementalist.For a level 100 melee fighter, which is better power or plate? For power armor, can ADB make up for lack of END stat?

It doesn't matter what level other used to clear arenas when they were at 100. You will get different answers. The best thing you can do is play the level you are comfortable and know you can win or finish.

Several factor determines like - Melee or Mage. Equipments and weapons you use. etc For me I used to do all the arenas in normal mode first time and raise difficulty 1 level at a time to see whether I can finish it. If I succeed I move higher but if I lose I stick with the last level were I was successful. Its all about experiments.


Thank you Malenk & xcaliber9999 for your answers

I was just trying to get a general sense of what level other tier 100 players were using.

Also, I noticed in the WTS area that quite a few shops were offering low price Godly potion packs for low level players, so I was wondering, what difficulty levels were other players using the Godly potion packs on.

Finally with the constant talk of IWTBTH, I was wondering if other 100 level players were constantly clearing the arenas with some common technique I was unaware of.

So, thanks again for the help!
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post Apr 28 2013, 22:55
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One final question(s) for the day -

A) which of the following two armors is better for a level 100 melee player?

Comparing two different power armors. At first I thought, the exquisite would automatically be better but after reading the hentaiverse FAQ a little deeper, i realized the exquisite had no Endurance. On the other hand, the exquisite has higher PMI.

At a low level (100), would that (lack of Endurance) be really significant?

1) Exquisite Power Armor of Slaughter
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=3973b12bd9

2) Superior Power Armor of Slaughter
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=f16a168ff3

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Also a higher level player mentioned in passing that power armor can have too low PMi for a lower level player. Further that plate armor can be substituted for power pieces to raise PMI.

So any ideas - below which base PMI should a level 100 player get worried about their power armor and sub in selected plate pieces?

C)
Finally, what is either armor approximate worth?


Sorry for the ramble, the more i play; the more questions i have.
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post Apr 28 2013, 22:58
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About how much Estoc would you expect 500k-1 mil credits to buy these days? Exquisite Ethereal of Slaughter with no serious flaws? Can you snag a Sup Max+ WD, 22%+ Chance, non-troll time (2 Base Turns+, at least 5 turns at my level), with at least STR/DEX (preferably all 3) for that kind of cash, or has the move to tier 2 borked their price that hard?






QUOTE(ncoll @ Apr 28 2013, 15:55) *

One final question(s) for the day -

A) which of the following two armors is better for a level 100 melee player?

Comparing two different power armors. At first I thought, the exquisite would automatically be better but after reading the hentaiverse FAQ a little deeper, i realized the exquisite had no Endurance. On the other hand, the exquisite has higher PMI.

At a low level (100), would that (lack of Endurance) be really significant?

1) Exquisite Power Armor of Slaughter
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=3973b12bd9

2) Superior Power Armor of Slaughter
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=f16a168ff3

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Also a higher level player mentioned in passing that power armor can have too low PMi for a lower level player. Further that plate armor can be substituted for power pieces to raise PMI.

So any ideas - below which base PMI should a level 100 player get worried about their power armor and sub in selected plate pieces?

C)
Finally, what is either armor approximate worth?
Sorry for the ramble, the more i play; the more questions i have.


You own both, so you can easily see which one gives higher PMI by equipping them (and how much HP the END on the Sup gains you). The PMI where you start worrying is the PMI where you start getting beaten up too badly, since the whole Power Armor thing is to get just enough PMI to not worry about it too much, and then stack as much ADB as possible to rape face faster. PMI needed is also going to depend on difficulty (harder -> more PMI needed).

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post Apr 28 2013, 23:06
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PMI is given by END and STR, with END being about 0.059%(DEX, in comparison, giving 0.04% parry) and dropping to 0.044% at 300 STR/END, and STR being worth half as much. So for rough values you can look at how much PMI you'd get from the END PAB, and calculate the difference, though this may be bit understate the value of END and STR a little bit since they take advantage of the additive nature in calculations with equips.
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post Apr 28 2013, 23:40
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You own both, so you can easily see which one gives higher PMI by equipping them (and how much HP the END on the Sup gains you). The PMI where you start worrying is the PMI where you start getting beaten up too badly, since the whole Power Armor thing is to get just enough PMI to not worry about it too much, and then stack as much ADB as possible to rape face faster. PMI needed is also going to depend on difficulty (harder -> more PMI needed). PMI is given by END and STR, with END being about 0.059%(DEX, in comparison, giving 0.04% parry) and dropping to 0.044% at 300 STR/END, and STR being worth half as much. So for rough values you can look at how much PMI you'd get from the END PAB, and calculate the difference, though this may be bit understate the value of END and STR a little bit since they take advantage of the additive nature in calculations with equips.


Thank you PK678353 and Lement for your responses (Lement especially for the approximations). It seems that it's a bit of a wash.

So is the ex piece underpowered or is the Sup piece overpowered? I thought in general higher quality pieces were supposed to be better.

Also, can you give me an estimate on what either piece might be worth, a range even,
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post Apr 29 2013, 00:36
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QUOTE(PK678353 @ Apr 28 2013, 12:58) *

About how much Estoc would you expect 500k-1 mil credits to buy these days?


In the auctions I see Exquisite always goes up to 1mil+ so I'm thinking 1 mil is usually the minimum to get one at Exquisite. I don't see superior ones often and the last one I remember was 200kish.
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post Apr 29 2013, 00:54
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Is it worth to wear :

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=08bb664ae7

If I don't equip shield ? I'm not sure if I understand the way in which shielding armour works and for some reason is greatly valued by people on auctions.
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post Apr 29 2013, 01:08
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QUOTE(HNTI @ Apr 28 2013, 14:54) *

If I don't equip shield ? I'm not sure if I understand the way in which shielding armour works and for some reason is greatly valued by people on auctions.


Shielding armor is just plate armor is block. Its always nice to get extra damage avoidance with no drawback so that's why its worth a lot. You don't necessarily have to have a shield. The majority of people wear plate without a shield so shielding wouldn't be much different. If you want to maximize block sure, but it'll slow you down.

I have a rapier so it give good parry and its basically the same thing. I also have 4 shielding pieces so far and it gives an extra 16% block on top of the evade from SV and parry from rapier, which is quite nice when rng is on my side. Around 60% avoidance of all dmg. I still get raped though when I'm unlucky. 70% pmi isn't enough (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Apr 29 2013, 02:32
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QUOTE(HNTI @ Apr 28 2013, 22:54) *

Is it worth to wear :

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=08bb664ae7

If I don't equip shield ? I'm not sure if I understand the way in which shielding armour works and for some reason is greatly valued by people on auctions.


it's greatly valued because you get free avoidance on heavy armor.
you don't need a shield in order to block, and every bit helps.
still i wouldn't use this piece of equipment as a permanent solution, but you can use it as a temp ofc.

even if the PMI is MagMax it is much lower than what you get from a BaseMax protection piece.
the PAB rolls are lower than the BaseMax, and there is no DEX (AGI is almost a dumpstat on heavy).
also the block is not really high.
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post Apr 29 2013, 07:50
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So, I finally managed to get 21 Unique Pony Figurines but I can't find the Orbital Friendship Canon. Do I need to be using certain weapon or train it or what? I checked in the MAGIC and SKILL tab. It wasn't there.
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post Apr 29 2013, 07:51
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Wait a few hours.
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post Apr 29 2013, 08:57
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Any tip on how to kill FSM? I just hit 100 today and was thinking of doing it for the 200k, but is it difficult?
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post Apr 29 2013, 09:02
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Its easy. I would wait until you're able to do it on IWBTH but if you just want first clear don't worry about it. Put it on normal keep silence on him at all times and you're good to go. If you're melee that is.

Just make sure you don't run out of mana.
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post Apr 29 2013, 09:19
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QUOTE(fsdsada @ Apr 29 2013, 01:57) *

Any tip on how to kill FSM? I just hit 100 today and was thinking of doing it for the 200k, but is it difficult?


Get to 110 and put 5 points into Silence. Silence + Weaken keeps his damage low and prevents the SP attack from just raping you.

If you mage, use Imperil if you can swing the curse weaving. If you're Elemental Mage, you have to use Imperil to have a chance. If you're Holy Mage, he's easy, and Imperil still ups your damage per round.

If you melee, use a Void weapon (or shard it if yours isn't Void, you really want Void damage) and put an Infusion of Divinity or two on the weapon for Holy Strike.

Bring lots of pots, Godlies if you have them.
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post Apr 29 2013, 09:43
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advice please. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
which one do you think is the best?
1.slowly progress with normal difficult and accumulate credit little by little or
2.do the grindfest with the difficult of nintendo or above to aim for lvl300++ while you ignore the credit
please give me your reason (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Apr 29 2013, 09:54
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QUOTE(k1r4y4m4t0 @ Apr 29 2013, 17:43) *

advice please. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
which one do you think is the best?
1.slowly progress with normal difficult and accumulate credit little by little or
2.do the grindfest with the difficult of nintendo or above to aim for lvl300++ while you ignore the credit
please give me your reason (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

It depends on whether you mage or melee, but generally:

At levels lower than 200, go for IWBTH Arenas (>=20 rounds) and REs. However, as you unlock each new Arena, do it on normal on your first go - and then, for each successive run, increase the difficulty until you *just* clear it. Then, STAY at that difficulty. If you GF, do it on normal. Forget IW for now.

Your levels determine your proficiency caps, the number of 'free' Ability Points, Auras and Ability Tiers. You want it as high as possible, so you do IWBTH for the x25 experience. But RoB and Arena round clear bonus is not subject to difficulty, so normal is fine for the credits.

Mages tend to get more nerfed the higher level they are (you have to be a VERY HIGH LEVEL mage in order to overcome this), so you want to stay lower-level until you get awesome gear. Normalfesting is the way to go - but adaptive drop rates are coming soon, so...

Melees get stronger (well, they don't get weaker, at least) as they level up. So IWBTH REs and Arenas aren't problematic.

A good compromise is BT, as BT gives you almost all the benefits of IWBTH and is less than half as difficult.
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post Apr 29 2013, 11:29
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how does mana conservation add up from several items?
i know that only the integer part counts, but let's say i have a 25MC staff and 2 pieces of cloth with 3 MC each.
do the MC add up for a total of 31 MC or it stacks multiplicatively like the cost reduction you get from aether shards and spirit stance?
if my math is not wrong that would make the total MC 29.
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post Apr 29 2013, 11:39
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As a DW/Light, what is a good number of rounds to be able to complete on IWBTH in grindfest using only potions?
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post Apr 29 2013, 12:05
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You're correct, it stack just like aethers(or PMI).
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