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post Nov 6 2010, 11:06
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QUOTE(altereggo @ Nov 6 2010, 16:19) *

Does anybody else just focus on one or two elements' spells? I find fire+cold more than enough for anything. Only Dalek and rabid hamster resist both. The latter are no problem, and the former... scare the hell out of me.

Secondly, do high-level people clear everything in the ring of blood every day? I just beat manbearpig there for the first time, and was curious.

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Magic to use is Fire and Thunder. I use Holy and Soul by the enemy, too.
Dalek is made to grow weak with Weaken+Poison+Bewilder, and I overcome it by the running fire of Chain Lightning.
Of course, I keep using Shield and Absorb for myself.
Then, I use Spark of Life with RoB for a sense, too. However, I am seldom inescapably.
When a level is low, needless to say you get similar effect by Scroll of the Gods.

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Attack it thoroughly with effective magic anyway when a level is low.
Of course, you aim for it, and a channeling works for the improvement in the power, too.

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I corrected magic because I mistook White Bunneh for Dalek. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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It is while I am preparing equipment so that it can win because I can't win against God yet. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Nov 6 2010, 12:17
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QUOTE(altereggo @ Nov 6 2010, 07:19) *

Two questions for mages and high-level folks.

Does anybody else just focus on one or two elements' spells? I find fire+cold more than enough for anything. Only Dalek and rabid hamster resist both. The latter are no problem, and the former... scare the hell out of me.

Secondly, do high-level people clear everything in the ring of blood every day? I just beat manbearpig there for the first time, and was curious.
Thunderstorm + inferno is more effective.

I kill every time I have a ToB, but not anyone do, some prefer to collect FSM's trophy, others make a pile of ToB.
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post Nov 6 2010, 16:44
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I clear FSM every day now, since my Blood Tokens were piling up. It goes pretty quickly now that my Proficiences don't suck balls.

If I had infinite Tokens I'd clear the whole RoB every day sure.
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post Nov 6 2010, 22:33
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Is it that elec does more damage overall to make up it, or is the status effect just better?
A lower resist would be awesome; coalesced mana+deep burns=meteor time!

Oh, and are manthra and white bunneh harder using fire and elec? Manthras are already my least favourite mini-boss!

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post Nov 6 2010, 23:11
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Is this setup good enough to take on Real Life? And which Axe/rapier would be recommended against it?

Axe Option 1 (2 turns bleed at my level)
Axe Option 2 (4 turns bleed at my level)
Axe Option 3 (4 turns bleed)

Rapier Option 1 (3 turns PA at my level)
Rapier Option 2 (2 turns PA)
Rapier Option 3 (3 turns PA)

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10 item slots/2 scroll slots/2 infusion slots, all stats balanced, DW prof 33.95
9 Scrolls of the gods in stock, maxed absorb, and will get spark when I level up.

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post Nov 6 2010, 23:14
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Axe 1 - Rapier 3

with that evade gear you can do it just fine.
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post Nov 6 2010, 23:19
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QUOTE(PsychoticSoul @ Nov 6 2010, 21:11) *

10 item slots/2 scroll slots/2 infusion slots, all stats balanced, DW prof 33.95
9 Scrolls of the gods in stock, maxed absorb, and will get spark when I level up.
With so much scrolls you probably don't even need spark.
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post Nov 7 2010, 00:56
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I'm still trying to figure out what sort of equipment I should wear for what ocassion. I think I've got the gist of it, but mostly need some confirmation/clarification before I waste my credits.
So far I've got a decent heavy armor set (Helm, Body, Hands, Legs, Feet thanks to torotuna) which I'm wearing all the time, a crappy Longsword for cakefest and IW and a Shortsword+Dagger for Arenas. I got all health/mana tanks, item/aura slots as well as cure and shield. I've beaten Blazing Field with this on my 1st try but it was pretty close.

So, now as far as I've read, one should use (talking about a mostly melee build):
a) full Heavy with 2H bleeder for cakefest&up to normal IW
b) evasion Cloth with Rapier+Shield for arenas and normal+ grindfest/hard+ IW
c) evasion Cloth (+1 piece Heavy) with good bleeding MH Axe+OH Rapier for RoB
correct me if I'm wrong, please.

Now to my questions:
1. On what upgrade should I focus first? I guess a better 2H for easier grinding. Whats most important, of Slaughter/of Balance, bleed damage or number of turns?
2. How long will the heavy stuff last for arenas i.e. when should I start collecting evasion gear?
3. Are my weapons still alright for my current arena choices or should I start to look for something better?
4. Is there a big difference between the weapon setup of b) and c)? especially when it come to grindfests where offense might be the best defense?
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post Nov 7 2010, 03:48
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I'm no expert in multi-classing, but that's a lot of different proficiencies to train.
Do you think that longsword will give you enough of an advantage in cakefests to offset that?

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post Nov 7 2010, 08:35
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@ PsychoticSoul

I would go with Axe 2 + Rapier 2, if you want to bleed them to death.

Your DW prof is low, however, it could be a long fight if you go with bleeding route.

I'm not sure how much damage RL will received when hitting him while using infusion of gaia, if it does a decent damages, you could try a melee route with Rapier + Sword Chucks and forget about the bleed altogether. This plan is highly effective if it does work.

BTW, Nice Axe.

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post Nov 7 2010, 14:30
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QUOTE(buktore @ Nov 7 2010, 14:35) *


I'm not sure how much damage RL will received when hitting him while using infusion of gaia, if it does a decent damages, you could try a melee route with Rapier + Sword Chucks and forget about the bleed altogether. This plan is highly effective if it does work.




I don't have any Sword chucks. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) And I'm not willing to buy a significant amount of Infusions of Gaia. I did see your post on using chucks against FSM though. Will look for some.
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post Nov 7 2010, 16:20
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need some advice for my build

i'm at level 22, trying to build a pure fighter character

my stats
Str 26
Dex 21
Agi 20
End 22
Int 2
Wis 2
(following scheme based on level [+4, -1, -1, 0]... ignoring wis and int)

green and red aura level 1
i'm only spending my abilities on slots, experience, health tank, experience bonus, cure



fighting style: one handed slashing dmg with swords , i use magic only for cure myself

using a tower shield in offhand
the rest of equipment is mixed equally between light and heavy amor (for reduce a bit the burden and interferance)


what are the type of equipment that i should prefer as pure physical figher? only light or only heavy armor? what weapons (axes, rapier, sword, daggers,clubs...)?
should i put a bit of points on magical attributes? what are he abilities that will be mostly useful for my type of character?
what are the modes that rewards lots of credits?

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QUOTE(Ichy @ Nov 7 2010, 16:54) *

My first advice is to post in existing threads like "ask the experts" or "HV Questions"

2nd Try to keep all your stats close to your level. No Mana means death
3rd heavy gear only for cake. For everything else find some evade silk.


what means cake!? i'm a total noob...
other advices?
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post Nov 7 2010, 16:22
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I suggest you read the wiki. All of it. Once you've done that, come back and ask questions. There's a link to the wiki in my sig, and there's also a sticky in this forum with useful links.

Edit:
Forgot I took the wiki link out.

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post Nov 7 2010, 17:57
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you don't need the exp abilities and you need more wis
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post Nov 7 2010, 18:23
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Which one would you use?

Rapier A

Attack Damage Multiplier: 24.39
Attack Accuracy Bonus: 21.14
Attack Critical Bonus: 1.78
Parry Chance: 7.63
Burden: 7.38
Interference: 6.83
DEX: 0.37
AGI: 1.11
Hit Proc: 24% chance for Penetrated Armor
Duration: 4 (3) turns

Rapier B

Attack Damage Multiplier: 27.02
Attack Accuracy Bonus: 16.91
Attack Critical Bonus: 2.44
Parry Chance: 8.91
Burden: 7.81
Interference: 3.29
DEX: 0.37
AGI: 1.49
Hit Proc: 22% chance for Penetrated Armor
Duration: 3 (2) turns

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post Nov 7 2010, 18:38
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QUOTE(tribalspirit @ Nov 7 2010, 06:20) *

need some advice for my build

Wis 2

Invest in a good casket.

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post Nov 8 2010, 05:53
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I been going over Staffs lately and I can't decide what is the best for given situations. They all seem kind of balanced in some ways. I know for Suffix its simple but I am wondering for staff types.

Ebony seems good for Elemental spells with both Prof and Elemental damage boost.

But is Willow still better since on wiki it has higher Prof, but it does not give elemental damage boost like Ebony.

I just wonder about the ratio between Magic damage, Proficiency, and elemental damage boosts.
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post Nov 8 2010, 06:00
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QUOTE(sekirei07 @ Nov 7 2010, 19:53) *

I been going over Staffs lately and I can't decide what is the best for given situations. They all seem kind of balanced in some ways. I know for Suffix its simple but I am wondering for staff types.

Ebony seems good for Elemental spells with both Prof and Elemental damage boost.

But is Willow still better since on wiki it has higher Prof, but it does not give elemental damage boost like Ebony.

I just wonder about the ratio between Magic damage, Proficiency, and elemental damage boosts.


Everyone uses ebony and katalox staffs, for good reason. Damage > everything basically.

Proficiency increases damage at half the rate of MDM/elemental damage boosts (we assume). Hence why high MDM staffs are in such demand.
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post Nov 8 2010, 06:04
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QUOTE(Conquest101 @ Nov 7 2010, 20:00) *

Everyone uses ebony and katalox staffs, for good reason. Damage > everything basically.

Does anyone actually use a katalox staff?
I'd love to, but I can't find any that aren't garbage.
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post Nov 8 2010, 06:14
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ Nov 7 2010, 20:04) *

Does anyone actually use a katalox staff?
I'd love to, but I can't find any that aren't garbage.


I have been for legendary stuff. MDM is inferior to my ebony staffs obviously but, factoring in proficiency/specific damage bonuses, it's still an increase in damage.
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