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post Mar 16 2013, 21:57
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QUOTE(Nightwishman @ Mar 16 2013, 11:47) *

The DW set is just for training DW Prof, I'm not going to spend money on an etheral set until I can really use it.

I mostly 2H with an eth slaughter mace.


Okay, but even with your plate+eth mace set. I recommend switching one piece to maybe power of protection (still okay PMI with less burden generally, and it's cheaper than slaughter). This will help your accuracy and damage a little too. Also try to find one piece of mithril plate you can use. Just to give you an example, I run four plate and one power of protect with my estoc and my burden is 67.9 (one of the plates is mithril too). So I know you can get it lower.

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post Mar 16 2013, 22:43
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QUOTE(T_Starrk @ Mar 16 2013, 21:57) *

Okay, but even with your plate+eth mace set. I recommend switching one piece to maybe power of protection (still okay PMI with less burden generally, and it's cheaper than slaughter). This will help your accuracy and damage a little too. Also try to find one piece of mithril plate you can use. Just to give you an example, I run four plate and one power of protect with my estoc and my burden is 67.9 (one of the plates is mithril too). So I know you can get it lower.

What is the quality of your gear though? Im still rocking Superior plate that I've had for the last couple of months. I'm guessing that you've got at least Exquisite everything by now, with good stats and low burden/interference. And all my power armor is...junk.
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post Mar 16 2013, 22:43
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post Mar 16 2013, 23:18
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Other than the fact that stat costs increase absurdly fast and thus not upgrading a stat does not result in a huge increase in the other stats, is there any real reason to up Agility these days if you use heavy?
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post Mar 16 2013, 23:22
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A bit more SP and SP regen for more balanced stats. Besides, at high level people are going to try various builds.

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post Mar 16 2013, 23:31
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I assume the whole SP system is going to get an overhaul once Karma is fully removed.
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post Mar 16 2013, 23:36
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The point I've made is totally unrelated to karma/power though (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Character_Stats

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post Mar 17 2013, 00:06
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QUOTE(Nightwishman @ Mar 16 2013, 12:43) *

What is the quality of your gear though? Im still rocking Superior plate that I've had for the last couple of months. I'm guessing that you've got at least Exquisite everything by now, with good stats and low burden/interference. And all my power armor is...junk.


Well, I know you might not be able to afford it right now. I was just trying to give you something to shoot for with your build whenever you do decide to upgrade. Also, post your gear, I have a few exquisite plate lying around but I need to know if they would be an improvement to your current gear. But to answer your question, I use 1 legendary and 3 magnificent plates of protection with one exquisite power of protection in the head slot.
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post Mar 17 2013, 00:10
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Well, I know you might not be able to afford it right now. I was just trying to give you something to shoot for with your build whenever you do decide to upgrade. Also, post your gear, I have a few exquisite plate lying around but I need to know if they would be an improvement to your current gear. But to answer your question, I use 1 legendary and 3 magnificent plates of protection with one exquisite power of protection in the head slot.

rimary Mace: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=c21ec9402f
Secondary Mace: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=bc68974c3c
Tertiary 2H: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=3c7fbca757 <- this thing really is only good for clearing arenas quickly on Normal. Otherwise I must use Mace for stun or ...die.

Helm : http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=7cb2dcd18d

Armor : http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=efdecf5ea7

Gauntlets : http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=3d1a85c589

Greaves : http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=50d1440996

Boots Primary: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=b7a18207b7
Boots Secondary: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=a503804e1f

I use some shield plates while DW'ing , but here are those two: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=15cfb8a9c0 and http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=a944b9b2d1

Mostly just testing to see if block + parry can work as well as evade/parry.

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post Mar 17 2013, 00:57
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hmm... it seems you pick a lot of your plate based off PABs. Really the first thing your should look at is PMI, then endurance, then strength. If those 3 rolls are good then it's a good piece of plate. Dexterity is nice as a bonus and agility is now useless for heavy. Ummm... fuck... let's see... well, definitely these gauntlets:

Exquisite Plate Gauntlets of Protection - these have better PMI, endurance rolls and will lower your burden a few points

How about this cuirass:

Exquisite Ruby Plate Cuirass of Protection - this has much better PMI and strength roll than yours and even though you lose dexterity you will gain crit because it's almost 5 points less burden.

Hmm... I'll give you these exquisite power booties too:
Exquisite Power Boots of Protection - they were given to me long ago so only right I pass them down to someone who needs them. At least they have much better damage than your boots.

Damn... wish I had better spare greaves to give out: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=3222938ea3 < better PMI but I don't want you to lose dex again.
I also have lots of exquisite plate helmets but I don't know if they are a proper replacement for your mag even if they are a better suffix: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=4309bb1421

Really upgrades for your equips are pretty cheap though.

Well, I'll send the gauntlets, cuirass, and boots for now. I'll keep an eye out for more stuff too. I get shitloads of plate drops.

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post Mar 17 2013, 01:01
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QUOTE(varst @ Mar 16 2013, 23:36) *

The point I've made is totally unrelated to karma/power though (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Character_Stats

It actually isn't completely unrelated. Now maybe Tenboro could just remove karma and make no changes to the SP system, but that would be a straight nerf to a lot of players. Tenboro has not shied away from those, but it would make more sense to change that system at that same time. (It also doesn't help that it is pretty useless to low level players)
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post Mar 17 2013, 01:41
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QUOTE(T_Starrk @ Mar 17 2013, 00:57) *

hmm... it seems you pick a lot of your plate based off PABs. Really the first thing your should look at is PMI, then endurance, then strength. If those 3 rolls are good then it's a good piece of plate. Dexterity is nice as a bonus and agility is now useless for heavy. Ummm... fuck... let's see... well, definitely these gauntlets:

Exquisite Plate Gauntlets of Protection - these have better PMI, endurance rolls and will lower your burden a few points

How about this cuirass:

Exquisite Ruby Plate Cuirass of Protection - this has much better PMI and strength roll than yours and even though you lose dexterity you will gain crit because it's almost 5 points less burden.

Hmm... I'll give you these exquisite power booties too:
Exquisite Power Boots of Protection - they were given to me long ago so only right I pass them down to someone who needs them. At least they have much better damage than your boots.

Damn... wish I had better spare greaves to give out: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=3222938ea3 < better PMI but I don't want you to lose dex again.
I also have lots of exquisite plate helmets but I don't know if they are a proper replacement for your mag even if they are a better suffix: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=4309bb1421

Really upgrades for your equips are pretty cheap though.

Well, I'll send the gauntlets, cuirass, and boots for now. I'll keep an eye out for more stuff too. I get shitloads of plate drops.


Thank you very much.

Someone told me a while ago that PABs were the best thing for gear...so I just kinda went with that...

I shall endever to return or pass on when I get my own.

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post Mar 17 2013, 02:36
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QUOTE(traficantj @ Mar 16 2013, 18:01) *

It actually isn't completely unrelated. Now maybe Tenboro could just remove karma and make no changes to the SP system, but that would be a straight nerf to a lot of players. Tenboro has not shied away from those, but it would make more sense to change that system at that same time. (It also doesn't help that it is pretty useless to low level players)


Actually, might be a straight buff to any mage that doesn't use Spirit Stance. The Karma/Power increases only increase Base SP but do not increase SP Regen, so without them SP Regen would end up being more significant. Since everything that uses or gains SP except Spirit Stance is keyed to base SP, the only reason higher Base SP is of any benefit is more Stance rounds without compromising available Sparks/SS hits. Otherwise I have 5 Sparks available whether my Base SP is 25 or 250.

For melee, yeah, straight nerf to their endurance.

If nothing else, it would keep us from Karma-killing MikukoAya. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


QUOTE(Apocalypse Horsemen @ Mar 16 2013, 13:38) *

Is the Elemental Magic Proficiency worth training up at my level?

I've been recently training up Divine/Forbidden, switching between phase of Heimdall/Fenrir armor, with an Exquisite Ethereal Katalox Staff of Focus.

Elemental - 17.79
Divine - 41.50
Forbidden - 43.72

If so, what type of cloth should I look at, Gossamer or Phase, & any particular suffix?
What type of staff is recommended for this training?

Thanks.


If you already have a Holy or Dark set, don't bother with Elemental.

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post Mar 17 2013, 05:03
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Quick question: which is better for light melee?

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=246b8acc02
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=f8ef34b5ce

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post Mar 17 2013, 05:06
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The second one has the wrong suffix, and it's missing Strength.

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post Mar 17 2013, 06:03
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post Mar 17 2013, 06:44
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If you already have a Holy or Dark set, don't bother with Elemental.


Noted, thanks.
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post Mar 17 2013, 08:10
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I have a question, lets say I have DW with the following two weapons that have near-max Parry chance (either Rapier; and/or Dagger); could I combine that which is about 45-50% parry. Could I combine that with Shield Plate to get another 45-50% block; and theoretically, have a 10% or less chance of being struck by a monster?


Also, whats with sword chucks?

Is it possible, to have 100% (or even 90%+) block? with shield plate + shield?
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post Mar 17 2013, 09:28
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if i chanllenge to flying spaghetti monster difficulty IWBTH and defeat that , so i lost tokens of blood and done?
i get nothing?
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post Mar 17 2013, 10:15
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if i chanllenge to flying spaghetti monster difficulty IWBTH and defeat that , so i lost tokens of blood and done?
i get nothing?


Yeap.
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