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post Dec 13 2009, 05:21
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QUOTE(coredumperror @ Dec 12 2009, 19:06) *

You should put two points into those Item Slot abilities in tiers 2 and 4 first. Then, I'd suggest 5 pts in Weaken, since it's very useful against the last-round minibosses that you'll be facing in the arena at your level (not to mention being the cheapest deprecating spell, letting you spam it for proficiency). After that, get those HP tanks, then if you have a Rapier for PA, I'd suggest Poison. It doesn't really do enough damage against non-PA'd monsters. Once you've got those (if you choose to get poison), then you can start putting some points into SP Tanks and OC Boost.

I agree.

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As for keeping your interference low, I'd do the same even if I wasn't using offensive magic. Keeping it around 25 means your Shields and Cures are not reduced in power due to lost Proficiencies due to high Interference.

This is where I'm going to disagree. Cure is barely effected through the reduction in Proficiency, and it is possible to make up the difference in lost absorption from Shield with armor. Don't keep your interference low just to keep it low. If that is your best option equipment wise (hopefully because your armor has high evasion) then do it. I'm not saying go full-plate because while those armors appear the best, their burden will kill you. Just use your best stuff.
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post Dec 13 2009, 10:00
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I've got a general question for you guys. I notice that about every ten levels the monsters get a larger than normal increase in their stats. For example, when I am at level 39 I can do pretty well in the arenas and what not, but when I hit 40, the monsters all of a sudden hit for twice as much and I can't hold my own anymore. I think that happens every time at a transition to a new tier.

Am I imagining things or does that non linear scaling actually occur?
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post Dec 13 2009, 11:51
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Thanks for the advice. So let's go for Inventory solts and Weaken - about Poison, the main drawback is that I don't plan to siwtch to a Rapier anywhere near in time; I'm too fond of my current Shortsword. So I think it'll wait, next step is the three Health Tanks, then I'll keep the AP for next tier.

Side consideration: it looks like I'm starting to write equipment pieces with capital letters, just like in the old books of Lone Wolf by Joe Dever. Oh, memories *_*

@Zrel: Actually, I felt just like that when I became Apprentice, and then again now at Journeyman level. Maybe it's an effect designed to keep people interested in leveling, without getting relaxed after reaching a new tier? XD Anyway, the harder's the game, the more interesting it is, after all ^^
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post Dec 13 2009, 13:34
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Hi all (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Now I'm level 47 but still have problem about status and equipment. I can't fight in normal mode in grindfest and IW (I can't beat than 10 round of grindfest and 20 round of IW). Furturemore, I can't beat arena since Rolling Stone (lv 20 arena) so sad = =!! lv 47 can't beat arena lv 20 .....

so, my question is....Am I do something wrong with my stat ?? or my equipment ?? or my ability - -' anyone please advise me... thanks a lot !! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

[img.olocorp.org] (IMG:[img.olocorp.org] http://img.olocorp.org/te/equipment.jpg)[img.olocorp.org] (IMG:[img.olocorp.org] http://img.olocorp.org/ts/status.jpg)[img.olocorp.org] (IMG:[img.olocorp.org] http://img.olocorp.org/ts/skill.jpg)


Fair steel longsword
Superior iron plate helmet of deflection
Fine iron plate cuirass of dampening
Fair kevlar gauntlets of the thrice-blessed
Average gossamer pants of the owl
Fine silk shoes

PS. Thanks to streetfelineblue for telling me about how to get link of equipment ^w^

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post Dec 13 2009, 14:11
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QUOTE(mayuri9 @ Dec 13 2009, 12:34) *

Hi all (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Now I'm level 47 but still have problem about status and equipment. I can't fight in normal mode in grindfest and IW (I can't beat than 10 round of grindfest and 20 round of IW). Furturemore, I can't beat arena since Rolling Stone (lv 20 arena) so sad = =!! lv 47 can't beat arena lv 20 .....

so, my question is....Am I do something wrong with my stat ?? or my equipment ?? or my ability - -' anyone please advise me... thanks a lot !! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

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PS. for my equipment I don't know how to get a link from each part ,so I can't show the detail of it . Sorry >.<


To get an equipment link, you just hover over it with the mouse (until the stats appear) and press Ctrl+C. The item page will open as a popup (be sure to disable any popup blockers first ^^)

About the stats, I'll wait for the real experts to kick in, but at a first impression, I'd say you've got far too few Magic Points for your level. This means you can't use Cure often enough (nor Shield)... Maybe the first thing could be acquire some Magic Tank levels, as you've only got one.

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post Dec 13 2009, 14:52
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My recommendations:

You have 4 Aura points you are not using (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif).

Go to the aura page and unlock aura's.

Reset your abilities.

Get the aura slots.

Don't waste AP on EXP bonus!!! Max out your MP and HP tanks first.

I think it's a waste to have holy spells maxed out too
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post Dec 13 2009, 14:53
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QUOTE(mayuri9 @ Dec 13 2009, 06:34) *

Hi all (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Now I'm level 47 but still have problem about status and equipment. I can't fight in normal mode in grindfest and IW (I can't beat than 10 round of grindfest and 20 round of IW). Furturemore, I can't beat arena since Rolling Stone (lv 20 arena) so sad = =!! lv 47 can't beat arena lv 20 .....

so, my question is....Am I do something wrong with my stat ?? or my equipment ?? or my ability - -' anyone please advise me... thanks a lot !! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

[img.olocorp.org] (IMG:[img.olocorp.org] http://img.olocorp.org/te/equipment.jpg)[img.olocorp.org] (IMG:[img.olocorp.org] http://img.olocorp.org/ts/status.jpg)[img.olocorp.org] (IMG:[img.olocorp.org] http://img.olocorp.org/ts/skill.jpg)

PS. for my equipment I don't know how to get a link from each part ,so I can't show the detail of it . Sorry >.<


For starters use your aura slots and points....that's 2%dmg, 5%hit, 1%evade, and 2 absorb right there, plus the primary stats. Well I guess you would need to train another slot for the 4th but still.
I would get rid of your exp tanks, and fill your hp/mp tanks, try to keep your primary stats relatively evenly spread out, if melee is the route you want to go, you can let int/wis fall behind the others a bit. Right now your agi is way too far behind. As far as equipment your interference and burden are pretty high, might want to consider swapping out the plate for something with less then 20 burden/interference on it. You really have no business wearing gossamer unless it has fairly impressive evade on it, which most don't so swap that out for something that offers more evade or absorb/mitigation. You should probably switch to 1h+shield or dual wield, your just way too slow right now to use a 2h weapon without being constantly double attacked, and well you 2h wep looks like it kind of sucks anyway (fair...with no suffix). And finally your really not supposed to be able to go far in grindfest on normal at that level, that's why there are easier settings. For IW alot depends on the quality of the item so without knowing that I can't gauge it.
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post Dec 13 2009, 15:05
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Thanks for your advise >.< but I hear someone say that to increase a power of cure it depend on holy rating .

and about aura slot, I miss understand about it >.< at first time , I think it can't active more than 1 in a time =[]=''

...umm I can put only 2 aura point because I have only 3 aura slot >.<

By the way thanks a lot for your advise ,I really glad to see every advise >.<

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post Dec 14 2009, 02:09
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QUOTE(mayuri9 @ Dec 13 2009, 05:05) *
...umm I can put only 2 aura point because I have only 3 aura slot >.<


True, but you can train the "Refined Aura" ability at the Trainer in the Bazaar, which lets you use an additional aura at the same time. You're right that you should save your last aura point until you get that training, though. It is a waste to use it on an aura you can't activate yet (I know from experience, because I did that >_<).

Also, at level 60 you get the Focused Aura ability, which lets you put another point into each of your auras, making them stronger.

As for Cure benefiting from Holy Rating, that's true, but it's not enough of a benefit for you to spent 11 AP on it at your level. You need to be spending your AP on other things first.

Once you've swapped all your EXP tanks into MP tanks, I'd suggest putting 8 of the points you have in Holy into one tier of SP Tank and OC Boost. That will increase all the damage you deal by 5%. Then put the other points into the 2 Aura Slot abilities, and either save the rest for the next tier, or put them into Haste.



Now, I have my own question for the experts:
Should I start collecting a resistance set for FSM, Real Life, and IPU? If so, about how much resist should I expect to get on each type of armor piece? I'm going to be trolling the bazaar for at least part of my resist sets, and I don't want to buy a total dud piece.

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post Dec 14 2009, 06:23
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QUOTE(coredumperror @ Dec 13 2009, 19:09) *

Now, I have my own question for the experts:
Should I start collecting a resistance set for FSM, Real Life, and IPU? If so, about how much resist should I expect to get on each type of armor piece? I'm going to be trolling the bazaar for at least part of my resist sets, and I don't want to buy a total dud piece.


You can start for FSM and IPU, RL you don't even need resist, soul resist gear is pretty pitiful. I wouldn't buy anything with less then 12 resist on it, but ideally you want pieces with 20+ on them but they are few and far between, just try to get atleast 60% mitigation, ideally 75+ when all is said and done.
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post Dec 14 2009, 06:36
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QUOTE(uth @ Dec 13 2009, 20:23) *

You can start for FSM and IPU, RL you don't even need resist, soul resist gear is pretty pitiful. I wouldn't buy anything with less then 12 resist on it, but ideally you want pieces with 20+ on them but they are few and far between, just try to get atleast 60% mitigation, ideally 75+ when all is said and done.


Ok, thanks! I got really high-resist cloth pants in the Bazaar for cheap, which was what reminded me about FSM and IPU.

Is resist all you care about on your gear when fighting them, or is it worth using a lower resist piece if it's higher level (and therefore more stats)?
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QUOTE(coredumperror @ Dec 14 2009, 01:36) *

Is resist all you care about on your gear when fighting them, or is it worth using a lower resist piece if it's higher level (and therefore more stats)?

For real life general defense is probably more important. For the others, resist will reduce their normal attacks more significantly than other stats will increase yours, and you can silence them to prevent spells and spirit.
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post Dec 14 2009, 11:26
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QUOTE(mayuri9 @ Dec 13 2009, 14:05) *

Thanks for your advise >.< but I hear someone say that to increase a power of cure it depend on holy rating[...]



QUOTE(coredumperror @ Dec 14 2009, 01:09) *
[...]As for Cure benefiting from Holy Rating, that's true, but it's not enough of a benefit for you to spent 11 AP on it at your level. You need to be spending your AP on other things first. [...]


Moreover, if you want to train your Holy proficiency rating just for the sake of better Cures, you only need a single spell... That is, even just a single AP in the single target spell ^^ You can use it continuosly, no matter the tactical advantage, only to build up the proficiency rating, and beef it up with some Magic Montage - but only if you've capped the Battle Montage proficiencies, of course.
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QUOTE(mayuri9 @ Dec 13 2009, 14:34) *

Hi all (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Now I'm level 47 but still have problem about status and equipment. I can't fight in normal mode in grindfest and IW (I can't beat than 10 round of grindfest and 20 round of IW). Furturemore, I can't beat arena since Rolling Stone (lv 20 arena) so sad = =!! lv 47 can't beat arena lv 20 .....

so, my question is....Am I do something wrong with my stat ?? or my equipment ?? or my ability - -' anyone please advise me... thanks a lot !! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

[img.olocorp.org] (IMG:[img.olocorp.org] http://img.olocorp.org/te/equipment.jpg)[img.olocorp.org] (IMG:[img.olocorp.org] http://img.olocorp.org/ts/status.jpg)[img.olocorp.org] (IMG:[img.olocorp.org] http://img.olocorp.org/ts/skill.jpg)
Fair steel longsword
Superior iron plate helmet of deflection
Fine iron plate cuirass of dampening
Fair kevlar gauntlets of the thrice-blessed
Average gossamer pants of the owl
Fine silk shoes

PS. Thanks to streetfelineblue for telling me about how to get link of equipment ^w^


I'm just about your level and have a very similar build... with a two hand weapon with bleeding wound, and almost the same burden and interference as you. I also don't get very far in Grindfest, maybe around round 12 or 13 at most, but it's supposed to be hard. I don't even bother doing arenas over level 10. However, I do get quite far at Item World... over round 45 for an average equip, over round 55 for a fair one and about level 35-40 for a fine one.

You have already been given advice on how to use your ability points and attribute upgrades. Now I'm going to comment on your equipment. It's all way beneath your level, so it doesn't upgrade when you go up a level. You should seriously consider buying equips from a higher level than your own... for example, any of these two weapons at the bazaar. Furthermore, in case you don't have many credits with you, there are people who sell equips for much less than what the bazaar would charge you. I'd advise improving first any "fair" equipment you have as well as equipment under level 30. However, remember that some stats scale with level (but burden and interference don't scale), so you should probably ignore any level 200 equips unless they are really good for your level.

To finish off, here are my statistics. The only thing below my own level are the gauntlets, and I'm seriously thinking about upgrading them. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Equipment Slots
Main Hand
Average Diamond Longsword of Balance
Helmet
Fine Titanium Plate Helmet of the Stone-skinned
Body
Superior Emerald-adorned Leather Breastplate of Protection
Hands
Fine Leather Gauntlets of Negation
Legs
Exquisite Prism-adorned Leather Leggings of Warding
Feet
Exquisite Prism-adorned Leather Boots of Warding

Physical Attack
+18.8 % damage
+23 % hit chance
+7.6 % crit chance

Magical Attack
+2.5 % damage
+0 % hit chance
+0 % crit chance

Physical Defense
10 points absorbed
10.3 % mitigation

Magical Defense
14 points absorbed
9.4 % mitigation

Avoidance
+7 % evade
+0 % block
+1.8 % parry
+16.1 % resist

Compromise
53.1 interference
67 burden

Damage Mitigations
Crushing Damage
8.8 % mitigation
Slashing Damage
12.2 % mitigation
Piercing Damage
4.6 % mitigation
Fire Damage
1 % mitigation

Primary Attributes
+2.5 Strength
+1.7 Dexterity
+1.1 Agility
+0.7 Endurance
+0 Intelligence
+0 Wisdom
Weapon Procs
Bleeding Wound
25 % chance on hit
Lasts for 3 turns
61 damage per tick
Fighting Style Procs
Domino Strike
43.3 % chance on hit
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Moreover, if you want to train your Holy proficiency rating just for the sake of better Cures, you only need a single spell... That is, even just a single AP in the single target spell ^^ You can use it continuosly, no matter the tactical advantage, only to build up the proficiency rating, and beef it up with some Magic Montage - but only if you've capped the Battle Montage proficiencies, of course.


Divine Proficiency (the prof that affects Holy-type offensive spells) is not the same as Holy Rating. Only Holy Rating affects Cure, and you can't increase your Rating by casting spells. Only Proficiency goes up from that.
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QUOTE(coredumperror @ Dec 14 2009, 12:05) *

Divine Proficiency (the prof that affects Holy-type offensive spells) is not the same as Holy Rating. Only Holy Rating affects Cure, and you can't increase your Rating by casting spells. Only Proficiency goes up from that.


Oh, yeah... My fault, I stand corrected ^^
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i have a few questions about IW

does proc % or duration increases for weapons
how strong does an item need to be for me to encounter a boss
how do you know when an item is maxed out
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i have a few questions about IW

does proc % or duration increases for weapons
how strong does an item need to be for me to encounter a boss
how do you know when an item is maxed out


Answers, in order:
1) Yes, but it's a fairly rare thing to see. I believe there's one known instance of a proc duration increasing from IW leveling. You can check the IW thread if you like.
2) I've seen bosses in Fair items, and I think I recall running into White Bunneh in a Flimsy, but I could be mistaken.
3) Items don't max out. You can level them as far as you want.
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post Dec 15 2009, 03:53
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3) Items don't max out. You can level them as far as you want.


Well, as far as you're able, at least. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

I should probably be posing this question to hito, but maybe someone else knows. What's been the highest bleed damage on a weapon so far? I know hito has a 4 turn 351 axe on sale right now, but I assume he's sold/used better.
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Well, as far as you're able, at least. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

I should probably be posing this question to hito, but maybe someone else knows. What's been the highest bleed damage on a weapon so far? I know hito has a 4 turn 351 axe on sale right now, but I assume he's sold/used better.

Bought this from hito, so he probably has something better for personal use: http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=a958cbb0a3
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