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Superior Power Boots of Slaughter
Magnificent Power Leggings of Protection
Exquisite Power Gauntlets of Protection
Exquisite Power Armor of Protection
Exquisite Power Helmet of Protection

Exquisite Ethereal Estoc of Slaughter

Can someone that understands about heavy armor give me a hand? Those are my equips. I recently switched from light armor + mace, however, I can barelly reach wave 50 in IWTB. Is my setup absolute trash or is this really expected?

I trained profs before making the de facto switch by the way, and my heavy armor prof is 160 (Not perfect, but at least not zero)

Superior Power Boots of Slaughter
Magnificent Power Leggings of Protection
Exquisite Power Gauntlets of Protection
Exquisite Power Armor of Protection
Exquisite Power Helmet of Protection

Exquisite Ethereal Estoc of Slaughter

Can someone that understands about heavy armor give me a hand? Those are my equips. I recently switched from light armor + mace, however, I can barelly reach wave 50 in IWTB. Is my setup absolute trash or is this really expected?

I trained profs before making the de facto switch by the way, and my heavy armor prof is 160 (Not perfect, but at least not zero)

Power armor is for fast killing, not for protection. If you want to last longer in Grindfest, use full plate. Also, power of protection is bad IMO. It is too expensive for a half-half gear.
FYI, my power set is worse than your and i can only last ~70 round in IWBTH grindfest with that.

p.s. feather shard the armor can make you last much longer.

edit: typo

This post has been edited by Colman: Feb 13 2013, 18:29

Power armor is for fast killing, not for protection. If you want to last longer in Grindfest, use full plate. Also, power of protection is bad IMO. It is too expensive for a half-half gear.
FYI, my power set is worse than your and i can only last ~70 round in IWBTH grindfest with that.

p.s. feather shard the armor can make you last much longer.

edit: typo

Hmm, what you mean is, either go full power + slaughter or go plate? I see.

Or mix plate with slaughter. Power prot has all the interference of power, but still falls a fair bit short of plate's mitigation numbers.

How's your parry % ?

I guess I better start saving for a new plate set them :| damn, that power set was already expensive on its own.

How's your parry % ?

Avoidance
8.2 % evade
0 % block
31.2 % parry
12.3 % resist

I guess I better start saving for a new plate set them :| damn, that power set was already expensive on its own.
Avoidance
8.2 % evade
0 % block
31.2 % parry
12.3 % resist

Fully shard your armor should be able to bring your evade to 20+ and reduce your mana cost by ~20%.
But i think your problem is being one-shoted too often in arena and grindfest @50+ round. In this case, you need to mix your power set with some plate (i some time use warding instead of protection because a few monster can one-shot me with crit. magic in early round)

This post has been edited by Colman: Feb 13 2013, 19:38

Fully shard your armor should be able to bring your evade to 20+ and reduce your mana cost by ~20%.
But i think your problem is being one-shoted too often in arena and grindfest @50+ round. In this case, you need to mix your power set with some plate (i some time use warding instead of protection because a few monster can one-shot me with crit. magic in early round)

Well, kind of and not exactly, this is obviously a problem, but I try to keep spirit shield at all times, so I'm not really one-shoted (until the spirit bar ends, that is). Generally speaking I bring 12 godly mana potions and 1 godly spirit potions, and end up using all of them

You could always just drop down to BT if you want to try and break r100 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

What's the fastest way to rank up offensive spell proficiencies? It used to be easy difficulty in item world, but with the changes to IW, I only get like 29 rounds out of my crude items. I'm guessing easy grindfest and spam rank 1or 2 aoe spells?

All mage prof go up very fast just by playing. Grind on normal over and over again or just keep doing arenas. If stamina is a problem or you want to get the prof faster train a few levels of Assimilator. What also works is doing IWBTH-IW in a crude item. Use Curse-weaver/Priestess (better Regen II) if you don't have any just use your normal gear. But only cast tier 1 spells that only target 1 monster. Each monster will take longer to kill so you cast more spells per round.

Schoolgirl marathons are supposed to be a bitch. Unfortunately, they're mainly just boring. Just for funsies, every 3 patches or so Tenboro makes a change that makes them more of a bitch. Like new Ether Theft. Having used it in marathons, I am now firmly in Rei-Tenshi's camp here, new ET blows for marathons (I have to win how many coin flips to get how much mana?). I think if not for Channeling or 2x stacks I would actually lose mana on trying to ET chain Konata.

On the upside, he's at least seen some sanity and capped arenas at 100 rounds (DwD was originally a 500 round arena). On the downside, he recently acquired Windows 8. It's apparently bad enough to make him double Boss+ HP.

The thing with ET was most people didn't use a high % staff or they would just hit or MM the monster while getting the mana back. The higher % staffs only needed 1-2 hits to trigger ET where the lower ones took way more. Then if all you do is melee/MM while you ET you just waist time. There are better ways to use ET while still doing damage.

Windows 8 could be a whole lot worse, actually. It's not entirely bad once you get used to it, and actually, pretty decent on a touchscreen.

Schoolgirl marathons, like RoB, are optimised for DW. I took Beyond the Clouds on at Nintendo (at about 100 DW prof for Frenzied Blows); it's doable, survivable, but yeah, boring as all get out - about 3 hours or so. The trick is to Shard (and Infuse for weapons) all equips for about that long, bring tonnes of scrolls in, and spam Focus.

I think Eth weapons are a must have now. No B/I and when its level 10 you get void damage + Void strike+element strike+your infusion. Using shards in your armor should depend on your mana regen rate & if you can do your run without running out of mana pots. If you burn 10 mana pot, using a few shards isn't a bad idea. If you only use a few they why bother.

Holy crap, a 500 round arena? That is truly completely insane o_o Well, good to know I'm not the only one having trouble with these bosses. And also good to know that they're called schoolgirls (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Arena #33 500r (Past the Darkness, To The End of Time) 4/5/2011


Arena #32 400r (And After That, Ethernal Darkness) 2/10/2011

I think only hitokiri84 did them on BT before they were changes. I can't recall when the trophy drop chance went from 100% to 10%

If you're going to use a shade set with dual-wield, you should definitely use a club. It's not even really a choice, imo. You need stun for your survivability (stun+evade can actually gives me better results than high PMI heavy armor). There a select few high PL's who can one-shot you with a strong piercing attack when you wear shade, with a club you can stun and kill them before they even have a chance. Of course, crushing damage really fucking sucks at high levels, plus with shade you don't want any burden since you rely heavily on evade. So really you can only use ethereal weapons if you use shade.

axe/rapier axe/rapier axe/rapier (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I'd like to try an eth axe that had 100 slaughter bindings to compare things with and a better eth rapier too. I still haven't made up my mind as to what is faster, Shade vs Power/slaughter while DW.

I did most of the schoolgirls the other night using my estoc + power/slaughter (my phy mit dropped +12% this patch) but doing them I didn't use spirit shield and never needed to use a spirit potion. They went pretty fast and could be faster if I used keybindings.

Which god?

God of Sodomy & KY

Superior Power Boots of Slaughter
Magnificent Power Leggings of Protection
Exquisite Power Gauntlets of Protection
Exquisite Power Armor of Protection
Exquisite Power Helmet of Protection

Exquisite Ethereal Estoc of Slaughter

Can someone that understands about heavy armor give me a hand? Those are my equips. I recently switched from light armor + mace, however, I can barelly reach wave 50 in IWTB. Is my setup absolute trash or is this really expected?

I trained profs before making the de facto switch by the way, and my heavy armor prof is 160 (Not perfect, but at least not zero)

If you were to IW you gear to 5-6, if you can get a few levels of Juggernaut/Capacitor on each it would help.

Forge items until they need HG, forge the damage on your weapon if you can.

What makes a big difference is if you shard your gear & what your mana regen rate is. If you lose mana each turn its going to be hard to do long runs.

I guess I better start saving for a new plate set them :| damn, that power set was already expensive on its own.

I wouldn't mind helping you in doing so by buying some pieces of your set (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif)

But yeah, it should be better to go full slaughter (or at least have three out of five) to have some decent damage and ruin them for good. Or the plate, longer but safer.

The key lies in your END anyway. /pokes 4EverLost

This post has been edited by Falbala456: Feb 13 2013, 20:35

If you were to IW you gear to 5-6, if you can get a few levels of Juggernaut/Capacitor on each it would help.

Forge items until they need HG, forge the damage on your weapon if you can.

What makes a big difference is if you shard your gear & what your mana regen rate is. If you lose mana each turn its going to be hard to do long runs.

Regarding forge, you would really recommend forge what I have? Or I'd better get some power of slaughter before forging/IWing? I mean. Wouldn't it be pointless to upgrade something I'd end up changing?

And regarding the losing mana thing, yeah, I do lose mana every turn, sadly. But what could I do? I only autocast protection, haste and spirit shield, all of them are kind of essential to my survival.

I wouldn't mind helping you in doing so by buying some pieces of your set (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif)

But yeah, it should be better to go full slaughter (or at least have three out of five) to have some decent damage and ruin them for good. Or the plate, longer but safer.

The key lies in your END anyway. /pokes 4EverLost

Problem with full power slaughter is that it's offensively expensive :S. I'll probably go full plate protection first, since I can get a better quality for less investment.

Regarding forge, you would really recommend forge what I have? Or I'd better get some power of slaughter before forging/IWing? I mean. Wouldn't it be pointless to upgrade something I'd end up changing?

That depends on what you get from your monsters. But it doesn't cost too much if you only use MG. When you find/buy a replacement you sell your old stuff or salvage it (if you dare)

And regarding the losing mana thing, yeah, I do lose mana every turn, sadly. But what could I do? I only autocast protection, haste and spirit shield, all of them are kind of essential to my survival.
Problem with full power slaughter is that it's offensively expensive :S. I'll probably go full plate protection first, since I can get a better quality for less investment.

IA are a good thing and you want to keep the spells with the highest cost on there.

The problem with power/slaughter is everyone thinks they can only have Legendary of Butt Kicking with 4 PA and max everything or its shit. Well that costs way to much and takes a ton of HG to forge, you can find very good stuff for a low price that will work very well for a long time.

My current slaughter gear is 2 Sup & 3 Exq. But what makes the biggest difference for most builds is your weapon and how many upgrades it has. That is where you should spend most of your credits if you want more damage. The weapon will go with most builds but if you need more phy mit you can drop a piece of slaughter for something else.

Here are a few links to a few helms that I used in the past.
Average Power Helmet of Slaughter never used this but it would give nice damage.
Fine Power Helmet of Slaughter level 5, nice damage but only 1 PA. If it also had END I would have reset it and still using it.
Fine Power Helmet of Slaughter level 6, 2PA a little less damage then the others but more Phy Mit
Superior Power Helmet of Slaughter my current helm, its nothing great but works until I find an upgrade. When I do I'll sell it or salvage it

So what it comes down to is spending 5M-10M on something great to godly or spending a 100k on something good then buying some bindings. I don't think you should mess with armor in that range until you have a great weapon. Yours is pretty good with holy strike but its not something I would put 100 slaughter bindings into, but if its all I had I would put some into it.

The key lies in your END anyway. /pokes 4EverLost

NOT IN THE EYE (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
The power/slaughter I use gives me the most damage so some of it doesn't even have END. So my phy mit kind of sucks when using it. But I still use it for all the arenas.

So I've finished with OC boosts, where should I spend APs next? 2h/heavy

Absorb?
Exp tanks?
Soul reaper (should I put further points into soul harvest for lower mp cost)?
something else?

So I've finished with OC boosts, where should I spend APs next? 2h/heavy

Absorb?
Exp tanks?
Soul reaper (should I put further points into soul harvest for lower mp cost)?
something else?

hard to say without looking at your full tree

I suppose he got everything "necessary".

Personaly I plan to go after those xp tanks a bit, never enough xp yes, and the elemental resists (198 ap to unlock everything if I'm right).

Out of curiosity, since the wiki doesn't say it explicitly: Are the loot drops in grindfest the same as IW? (Except the crystal drops, of course)

edit: hueg image is hueg

This post has been edited by Herp in your Derp: Feb 14 2013, 00:57

No Shadow Veil, Imperil, Cure II ?

Don't think I'd be getting much use out of sv with only 7.6% base and 44+ burden. Cure1 does about 45% of my total hp, so that's sufficient for my needs.
And I already have a 20% chance to autocast imperil's steroid-loaded friend (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)