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post Feb 3 2013, 08:04
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1) For a mage I would say it's not really a good idea to let the STR fall behind. I mean, ok you virtually don't care about physical damage, but it also help boost your hp (oh you need it) and your physical mitigation (you don't know how much you need it). Mages aren't just peoples who come into a round, unleash the Great Fury of Elements and just walk away ^^.

Dex might be less important but Parry is always good.

Finally don't forget that every attribute points boost your spirit points, and it'll come in handy for some later skills (Spark of Life mostly, but others too for you).

2) I suppose it's possible. It just need a massive amount of Abilities Points to unlock every things important for both, plus grinding all the prof. So...not before some high lvl ^^.

3) I would say to lvl "all around", Arena would be the best , xp, credits, training etc.
For pure xp, Hourly Encounters helps a lot too.

4) Random.
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post Feb 3 2013, 08:15
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QUOTE(Colman @ Feb 3 2013, 00:10) *

My first question is that do mage really need IA3?
My second question is that do white aura reduce the chance of SS and SoL triggered so that sp consumption can be reduced? (for both melee and mage)
thank.

no, not really
by a little I guess, 10% is equal to 3 1/3 point on health tank, few juggernaut point can give you more HP than that. not that any of them matter in front of elementals (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

QUOTE(Mizuhime @ Feb 3 2013, 12:39) *

1. can i fight at high lvl with low str and dex? do i need dex at all? is hitting important? (ET)
2. is it possible to make a character who can switch between meele and mage and still can fight iwbth bosses just with good equip and skills?
3. what is better for fastlvling? itemworld or grindfest
since i need not only exp to not fall off lategame didnt i?
exp
profession lvling
pet lvling (token and "food")
credits (and/or items) for training
4. and 1 last question
is it random when i encounter bosses in? (IW or GF)
i do alot GF and only got 3 bosses and only 2 times IW and got 2 bosses in 1 run

1. to mage dex is mostly used to raise SP. when raising primary stat became expensive it's a good idea to spent some exp on dex.
2. yes, but it would cost a lot too, it's easier to focus on one style while doing the other just as side job.
3. clear arena with high exp modifiers on highest difficulties and great stamina. to raise prof you can just naturally raise it by doing battle or enter crude iwbth IW to spam/smack enemies. normal GF for crystal/token/artifact. arena with high monster/round ratio on highest diff and great stamina.
4. random

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post Feb 3 2013, 10:18
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QUOTE(Falbala456 @ Feb 2 2013, 13:33) *

Why don't you take a superior or godly spirit pot ? I always have one on me in cases off and I don't remember ever running out of sp even in long fight in IW.


Willing to bet he does. I bring 2 Godly Spirit on arena runs, it's barely enough for T&T. The PL 900+ guys can easily take off SP if they get off a special, whether from SS or just knocking you down for Spark. I mage though, so losing small bits to SS every few rounds is pretty standard.


QUOTE(aiwotorimodose @ Feb 3 2013, 02:15) *

1. to mage dex is mostly used to raise SP. when raising primary stat became expensive it's a good idea to spent some exp on dex.


Raising SP via stats is of dubious usefulness to a mage. Both Spark and Spirit Shield use a percentage of base SP, though SP regen does scale with stats but not Power. Double your base SP and Spark doubles its cost. For melee it's good to raise because of the (set) SP consumption of Spirit Stance. Mages rarely use Spirit Stance though.

We still use the parry and accuracy from DEX, so it's just our worst stat, not totally useless. Still almost trolling that it's one of Phase's PABs, rather than END.

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post Feb 3 2013, 11:53
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QUOTE(Falbala456 @ Feb 3 2013, 09:04) *

1) For a mage I would say it's not really a good idea to let the STR fall behind. I mean, ok you virtually don't care about physical damage, but it also help boost your hp (oh you need it) and your physical mitigation (you don't know how much you need it). Mages aren't just peoples who come into a round, unleash the Great Fury of Elements and just walk away ^^.

Dex might be less important but Parry is always good.

Finally don't forget that every attribute points boost your spirit points, and it'll come in handy for some later skills (Spark of Life mostly, but others too for you).

2) I suppose it's possible. It just need a massive amount of Abilities Points to unlock every things important for both, plus grinding all the prof. So...not before some high lvl ^^.

3) I would say to lvl "all around", Arena would be the best , xp, credits, training etc.
For pure xp, Hourly Encounters helps a lot too.

4) Random.


thanks alot *hug*

thats good to know, so i will lvl it when my main stats gets expensiv

1.
i think the equip is ok but what i realy wanna know is if i should lvl it in IW (item world) or is it usless to do so with low lvl stuff?
(i try to get at high lvl first and than go farming stuff and do challanges in high difficulty)

char:
[postimage.org] (IMG:[s9.postimage.org] http://s9.postimage.org/i57uzwy4b/hv_70.jpg)

abilities:
[postimage.org] (IMG:[s8.postimage.org] http://s8.postimage.org/467j5lim9/hv_70.jpg)
next element befor 100 will be wind lvl 80 and i think i get the evo2 ice spell too

equip:
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=91c0bec294
pure dmg
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=c314732d13
2.
to save mana and its void (what staff is better???)

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=4517746f07
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=3c47039018
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=4c0e415c77
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=1806e3db2b
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=472464e1d3

auras:
yellow green indigo blue
all lvl 2
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post Feb 3 2013, 12:40
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QUOTE(Mizuhime @ Feb 3 2013, 01:53) *

thanks alot *hug*

thats good to know, so i will lvl it when my main stats gets expensiv

1.
i think the equip is ok but what i realy wanna know is if i should lvl it in IW (item world) or is it usless to do so with low lvl stuff?
(i try to get at high lvl first and than go farming stuff and do challanges in high difficulty)

char:
[postimage.org] [img]http://s9.postimage.org/i57uzwy4b/hv_70.jpg[/img

abilities:
[postimage.org] [img]http://s8.postimage.org/467j5lim9/hv_70.jpg[/img
next element befor 100 will be wind lvl 80 and i think i get the evo2 ice spell too

equip:
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=91c0bec294
pure dmg
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=c314732d13
2.
to save mana and its void (what staff is better???)

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=4517746f07
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=3c47039018
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=4c0e415c77
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=1806e3db2b
http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=472464e1d3

auras:
yellow green indigo blue
all lvl 2


Try formatting your posts a little better since it's a bit difficult to figure out what you're trying to communicate.

-Stats: More Agility, less Strength. Agility and Endurance are the stats that keep you alive. If you absolutely want to stagger your stats, then a simple way of looking at it is INT and WIS > AGI and END > STR and DEX.

Also make sure that you don't neglect your Deprecating and Supportive proficiencies.

-Abilities: Do a reset. You shouldn't be investing in Experience Tanks yet. Make sure that you get all of your Health and Mana Tanks. For spells, you should max Shadow Veil, Haste, Imperil, Weaken, Cure, Protection, and Regen I. For offensive spells, you should get--at least--tier 1 cold and wind. (I am assuming you are a cold mage.) Start saving up for tier 2 cold and wind. If you really want to be thorough, get all of the offensive spells, but you will need a lot of AP.

When you hit level 200, you should then start filling in your SP tanks; once those are filled in, then you focus on Experience Tanks, assuming you don't have any other important abilities left.

-Staff: Figure out what you need. If your spells are missing or you are having problems with MP, go for the focus staff; if not, then go for the destruction staff. More damage is always the preferred route these days, but at lower levels you might have problems with landing your spells.

-Armor: It's okay for now.

-Item World: You can play in Item World for experience and drops and whatever else, but leveling items for potencies is end-game stuff. It's usually not worth investing time and effort in an item unless it's a top-end magnificent or legendary, or in rare cases, a top-end exquisite.

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post Feb 3 2013, 13:13
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ty n125

ah sorry for the bad editing, it was kinda messd up since i put all the links in first then wrote my thoughts and after all that the questions, what looked hard to finde/understand

thx with the abilitys
i kinda messd that up totaly^^

but one thing i rarly use Shadow Veil, Haste, Imperil, Weaken (more often - just when i face a boss), Protection, and Regen I
should i use them more?
what difficulty should i play at this lvl? (i do hard)


and i think i have to lvl proficiencies ( i was rushing exp to fast what isnt that good )

i think the stats will be better soon, after falbala helpd me there alot

i will not let u down masters (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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post Feb 3 2013, 13:39
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QUOTE(Mizuhime @ Feb 3 2013, 16:43) *

ty n125

ah sorry for the bad editing, it was kinda messd up since i put all the links in first then wrote my thoughts and after all that the questions, what looked hard to finde/understand

thx with the abilitys
i kinda messd that up totaly^^

but one thing i rarly use Shadow Veil, Haste, Imperil, Weaken (more often - just when i face a boss), Protection, and Regen I
should i use them more?
what difficulty should i play at this lvl? (i do hard)


and i think i have to lvl proficiencies ( i was rushing exp to fast what isnt that good )

i think the stats will be better soon, after falbala helpd me there alot

i will not let u down masters (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)


Well good luck. I am also a newbie started playing from January this year so still long road ahead of me ^^. Just take things slowly. Since I am a melee type I can't give much advice and beside the expert users already gave loads of useful info. Also post your training page (let's see what u have done so far).

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Questions to experts - Why do ponies cost 100000 credits in the bazaar and when u try to sell it only offer 20000 c ?

So will it be better if I sell the ponies and other artifacts to users instead of Bazaar ?

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post Feb 3 2013, 13:56
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QUOTE(Mizuhime @ Feb 3 2013, 03:13) *

ty n125

ah sorry for the bad editing, it was kinda messd up since i put all the links in first then wrote my thoughts and after all that the questions, what looked hard to finde/understand

thx with the abilitys
i kinda messd that up totaly^^

but one thing i rarly use Shadow Veil, Haste, Imperil, Weaken (more often - just when i face a boss), Protection, and Regen I
should i use them more?
what difficulty should i play at this lvl? (i do hard)


and i think i have to lvl proficiencies ( i was rushing exp to fast what isnt that good )

i think the stats will be better soon, after falbala helpd me there alot

i will not let u down masters (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)


Shadow Veil makes you more difficult to hit. Haste makes you act faster, so enemies are less prone to hitting you twice in one turn. Both of these spells help you avoid taking damage, which is very important, because as a mage, your physical mitigation will always be pathetic. These spells might not do much for you right now, but later on you won't be able to live without them. Also, because your physical mitigation will always be rather low, Protection won't have as great an effect as it would if you were wearing plate of protection, for example, but every little bit helps. As for Imperil, what do you do if you run into something that is highly resistant to cold, like a mechanoid or undead? Imperil will help you out there. Again, at low levels you probably aren't facing monsters with obscene resistances, but you'll run into them eventually. Finally, yes, Weaken is often used for bosses, but it's also good for reducing damage from troublesome monsters that you'll encounter later on.

For difficulty, play on whatever setting is most comfortable. Though, try to have the difficulty as high as you can manage for random encounters, since you can go all-out when you do them.

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Questions to experts - Why do ponies cost 100000 credits in the bazaar and when u try to sell it only offer 20000 c ?

So will it be better if I sell the ponies and other artifacts to users instead of Bazaar ?


Because Snowflake is a whore. Yes, try selling ponies and artifacts to other players. The Bazaar is typically just a dumping ground for junk equipment and for getting rid of all of your things when rage quitting.
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post Feb 3 2013, 14:26
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Should I go for IA1 or should I train more, with the focus on Scavenger, LOTD and Quatermaster?
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post Feb 3 2013, 14:30
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Should I go for IA1 or should I train more, with the focus on Scavenger, LOTD and Quatermaster?
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IA1. Then IA2.
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post Feb 3 2013, 14:36
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IA1. Then IA2.


Thanks and aw, kinda had expected that answer. Gonna be a hell of a long time till I get IA2. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Feb 3 2013, 15:52
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QUOTE(n125 @ Feb 3 2013, 14:56) *

Shadow Veil makes you more difficult to hit. Haste makes you act faster, so enemies are less prone to hitting you twice in one turn. Both of these spells help you avoid taking damage, which is very important, because as a mage, your physical mitigation will always be pathetic. These spells might not do much for you right now, but later on you won't be able to live without them. Also, because your physical mitigation will always be rather low, Protection won't have as great an effect as it would if you were wearing plate of protection, for example, but every little bit helps. As for Imperil, what do you do if you run into something that is highly resistant to cold, like a mechanoid or undead? Imperil will help you out there. Again, at low levels you probably aren't facing monsters with obscene resistances, but you'll run into them eventually. Finally, yes, Weaken is often used for bosses, but it's also good for reducing damage from troublesome monsters that you'll encounter later on.

For difficulty, play on whatever setting is most comfortable. Though, try to have the difficulty as high as you can manage for random encounters, since you can go all-out when you do them.


ok so its not critical to max the buffs and debuffs rightnow
i think as soon as i encounter random mobs who are hart to kill like bosses i do a reset
are evo1 spells better than evo2 in dmg/mana?

but i did all the difficulties in the arena and tryd where my limits are and it was like u said i realy got in trouble when 6 mobs dont die after 2-3 aeo spells and start hitting the crap out of me^^
but i hope mage isnt trash lategame if get more evasion hp etc ?
or is meele the only good way to fight IWBTH bosses?

if its important my training
(IMG:[img208.imageshack.us] http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7341/hv70.jpg)
lvld exp alot since i was going on fast exp first but after all the informations i think its better to leave it for later lvls too
but lvling drop-buffs, is it good at low lvl?

is there a wiki or forum page with all the short-words/abbreviation u guys using?
i didnt found any but it would be cool to have (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
and thanks again (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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is there a wiki or forum page with all the short-words/abbreviation u guys using?
i didnt found any but it would be cool to have (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
and thanks again (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Acronyms
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Is there any training that will increase token of blood drop?
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Protection against Shadow Veil: which is better for a Shade armor dual wielder?
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QUOTE(Mizuhime @ Feb 3 2013, 19:22) *

ok so its not critical to max the buffs and debuffs rightnow
i think as soon as i encounter random mobs who are hart to kill like bosses i do a reset
are evo1 spells better than evo2 in dmg/mana?

but i did all the difficulties in the arena and tryd where my limits are and it was like u said i realy got in trouble when 6 mobs dont die after 2-3 aeo spells and start hitting the crap out of me^^
but i hope mage isnt trash lategame if get more evasion hp etc ?
or is meele the only good way to fight IWBTH bosses?

if its important my training
(IMG:[img208.imageshack.us] http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7341/hv70.jpg)
lvld exp alot since i was going on fast exp first but after all the informations i think its better to leave it for later lvls too
but lvling drop-buffs, is it good at low lvl?

is there a wiki or forum page with all the short-words/abbreviation u guys using?
i didnt found any but it would be cool to have (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
and thanks again (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


Take a look at the training section at the very end of the page. It might have some useful tips for you ^^
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_Advice

Train Scavenger a bit it will be nice for you to get something often now and then. Also it doesn't cost much credit yet.

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post Feb 3 2013, 19:03
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Is there any training that will increase token of blood drop?

Nope, no training for that. It's a hath perk that costs a ton of hath so you'll be farming credits and artifacts for a while. Alternatively, use H@H or just do all the arena matches every day and you should have a good stock.
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post Feb 3 2013, 19:25
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Take a look at the training section at the very end of the page. It might have some useful tips for you ^^
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_Advice

Train Scavenger a bit it will be nice for you to get something often now and then. Also it doesn't cost much credit yet.



ty^^ ya i read it befor and thought of the same stuff and i will start lvling the drop-skills (mostly scavenger) since they are not so expensive anymore

@holy_demon: ok im not a expert but try to help if i can
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Loot_Drop_Rolls there u can see what effects token drop

and than you just need to train the skills -> i think "scavenger" since the rest just lower ur chance (except the quality training what dont effect it at all)

@stromgod: unless the spells are totaly unbalanced "shadow veil" must be better cause u dont have a shield und shade armor has lower resistenz values (but plz wait for an expert to confirm that;)
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post Feb 3 2013, 20:14
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stormgod: Depends on how much PMI your armor gives, but shadow veil works better with other shade supportives.

Mizuhime: Fair warning, mages get weaker as they level up at high level.
But they're best for RoB, worst for long series of high difficulty battles, though you might want to use bad holy set rather than cold to take down FSM.

Loot drop trainings....I suggest you get decent set of free equips and train the first half levels of them all, as that pays off rather quickly. Though Ability boost is incredibly good for you right now too, so you may want to stagger them first. But I think the first level of scavenger pays off probably in under a day.
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