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Jan 24 2013, 10:37
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n125
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QUOTE(YinX @ Jan 24 2013, 00:33)  Is "Absorb" any useful against normal monsters? I had it trigger several times against bosses but against normal monsters so far not once. Now I have reset my Abilities and wonder if it is worth the investment. I am currently a standard Ice Mage.
No, save Absorb for consideration when you're higher level (250-300+) and invest the AP into something more useful to you now.
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Jan 24 2013, 10:49
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PK678353
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QUOTE(YinX @ Jan 24 2013, 04:33)  Is "Absorb" any useful against normal monsters? I had it trigger several times against bosses but against normal monsters so far not once. Now I have reset my Abilities and wonder if it is worth the investment. I am currently a standard Ice Mage.
I wouldn't take it for just the reason you mentioned. Only good against bosses that'll live a while, and the only levels that have tons of bosses are schoolgirl marathons. For RoB, just use Silence or Spirit Shield once you get them.
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Jan 24 2013, 10:57
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Johnny Silverhand
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I would like to know what are the most useful spells when fighting a boss fight?
And also i would like to know if my credits will be refunded for the aura slots and karma amplification.
Also i would like to know if my training will be refunded if a donate a thousand dollars for cat girl aura?
And if the pony figures are even possible to get in hentaiverse anymore.
And what are my chances on getting a artifact?
Also does everything get harder after lv 200 and 300?
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Jan 24 2013, 11:05
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xmagus
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1. Ponies are everywhere in the frigging Bazaar right now, and thus far, OFC is still a viable Skill, so I'd guess they still drop... about once every 10,000 rounds or so.
2. Credit refunds for removed trainings given to those who don't ask for it back.
3. For fighting bosses, Weaken + Silence (+ Imperil if maging).
4. HVSTAT works off Scan, so once a mob is upgraded, you need to Scan again. But given the many millions of crystals 501st will need to be upgraded to the next level, chances are you won't need to scan her for a few months.
5. Artifacts once ~300-400 rounds.
6. Things get progressively harder ~190-210.
7. Absorb becomes frigging useful once you start meeting the custom Sprites and Elementals.
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Jan 24 2013, 13:20
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hentai_fusion
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QUOTE 5 5 The effect Blunted Attack on Need0255 has expired. 5 4 You evade the attack from Need0255. 5 3 You gain the effect Channeling. 5 2 You are healed for 4602 Health Points. 5 1 You cast Cure.
4 9 Need0255 is agitated! 4 8 The effect Coalesced Mana on Need0255 has expired. 4 7 Need0255 hits you for 1523 piercing damage. 4 6 Need0255 hits you for 1490 piercing damage. 4 5 Need0255 hits you for 1589 piercing damage. 4 4 Breached Defense explodes for 28443 holy damage 4 3 Need0255 gains the effect Blunted Attack. 4 2 Ragnarok hits Need0255 for 42223 dark damage. 4 1 You cast Ragnarok.
3 2 Need0255 gains the effect Imperiled. 3 1 You cast Imperil.
2 3 You evade the attack from Need0255. 2 2 You are healed for 9336 Health Points. 2 1 You cast Cure.
1 9 You gain the effect Spark of Life. 1 8 Need0255 crits you for 6423 piercing damage. 1 7 You gain the effect Cloak of the Fallen. 1 6 Your Spark of Life restores you from the brink of defeat. 1 5 Need0255 crits you for 6489 piercing damage. 1 4 Need0255 gains the effect Coalesced Mana. 1 3 Need0255 gains the effect Breached Defense. 1 2 Banish blasts Need0255 for 42425 holy damage. 1 1 You cast Banish.
0 2 Spawned Monster A: MID=49461 (Need0255) LV=296 HP=135365 0 1 Initializing arena challenge #3 (Round 2 / 3) ... 0 0 Battle Start! it is possible to be triple-tap!? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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Jan 24 2013, 16:33
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janusi
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QUOTE(xmagus @ Jan 23 2013, 18:42)  OK...
1. Reset your ability tree NOW. Get rid of your EXP tanks and spend some credits on Adept Learning instead. At your level, if you ramp up the difficulty to where you can still reliably clear all your arenas every day, you will jump at least one level a day without the tanks.
2. With all the extra APs you will have from dumping EXP tanks, you need to pick up (in order of importance) Weaken, Shadow Veil, Spark of Life, Silence, SP tanks -> OC tanks. Here's why. Weaken reduces enemy damage by 50% AND prevents crits. Shadow Veil essentially gives you 20% Evade, which as a Heavy user you don't have much of. SoL lets you survive where you might otherwise die. Silence is the ONLY thing that is awesome enough to let you live through FSM on IWBTH (you don't have access to SS and SoL triggering means you would have died). SP tanks and Overcharge allow you to run in Spirit Stance (which doubles your damage) for longer.
3. Grind your Supportive and Deprecating, as others have already said. You really need to spend time getting them up; the reason you don't have enough MP to cast the spells is because the spells themselves don't last long enough to be of any use. Proficiencies increase the duration of the spells, so get them up to ~75% of your level (if you can spend the time grinding them to ~90%, they will keep pace as long as you keep casting them). Use a Crude IW.
4. At this stage, when you pick a new rapier, don't worry too much about its damage. Look instead at its PA proc chance and duration (anything with over 22% and, I guess, 4 rounds). If it's Ethereal or is Hallowed, great. If its parry (check the Equipment Ranges wiki) is reasonably close to max base, even better.
5. Sell everything below Superior. You will need credits. Anyway, unless you want to go through the wiki every time you get a drop, a general rule of thumb is that anything Fine and below isn't worth putting in a shop. There are exceptions; in every category of equipment, certain stats are of higher priority than others. Your Fine Hallowed Estoc of Slaughter, if it has high PA proc chance and duration, with a ridiculous ADB, might be worth setting up shop for, even if it only had 2 low PABs.
6. Spend money training Pack Rat. Melees need to bring a tonne of Godly Mana Potions into battle. Train some Scavenger as well as LotD, so that you can pick up those potions from your battles.
7. Without a link to your equips, I can't say if your axe is any good. Check the wiki for a good rule of thumb.
Generally, you want to look out for Ethereal weapons, and/or Battlecaster stuff. Ethereal gives you an extra 50% attack bonus, effectively, and brings down your mana consumption. Ethereal Battlecaster is a dream of mine; it will further lower mana consumption.
Alright, thanks a lot for this. I've done all I can as far as abilities go. Come to think of it, getting too much experience was probably detrimental this early on anyway... The spells you suggested are all amazing, at least against smaller groups of enemies. I never would have figured Weaken and Shadow Veil would be so effective. And I guess my Spirit Stance is lasting a bit longer now, so that's great too. As for trained stuff, I've already got [ i.imgur.com] a bit of what you suggested a while ago. It just got a bit... expensive for me. Also, I guess I should bring a ton of mana potions instead of health potions then? And here's a [ i.imgur.com] repost of my equips and stats so far, maybe you didn't see it the first time when I asked about the axe. I'm working on it, but it'll take a while and some luck I guess. Anyway, thank you very much for all the suggestions. Hopefully I'll have gone up to par before I hit level 200...
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Jan 24 2013, 17:33
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Aspire4740
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Seeking some advice on training. Any particular training I should be improving on?
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Thanks.
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Jan 24 2013, 17:36
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arialinnoc
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QUOTE(Aspire4740 @ Jan 24 2013, 22:33)  Seeking some advice on training. Any particular training I should be improving on?
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sorry (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) This post has been edited by arialinnoc: Jan 24 2013, 22:24
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Jan 24 2013, 17:49
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ChosenUno
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QUOTE(arialinnoc @ Jan 24 2013, 22:36)  I think you should go for proficiency first.
Nope. Max out pack rat first. After that, I think you should concentrate on scavenger until your pot income is positive. After that, you can begin to diversify your training portfolio into archeologist and other things. Keep the drop trainings' costs equal is the best. Except for quartermaster, it's not really needed now.
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Jan 24 2013, 17:54
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T_Starrk
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QUOTE(ChosenUno @ Jan 24 2013, 06:49)  Except for quartermaster, it's not really needed now.
Equipment drops are basically the most interesting drops in the game, imo, so I wouldn't say quartermaster is completely useless. I'd keep the cost even with the other drop trainings.
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Jan 24 2013, 17:57
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xmagus
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QUOTE(janusi @ Jan 25 2013, 00:33)  The spells you suggested are all amazing, at least against smaller groups of enemies. I never would have figured Weaken and Shadow Veil would be so effective. And I guess my Spirit Stance is lasting a bit longer now, so that's great too.
Trust me, you want to be able to relax and enjoy the game now. You're not facing the really evil fellows yet, so take your time and build up your piggy bank. QUOTE As for trained stuff, I've already got [ i.imgur.com] a bit of what you suggested a while ago. It just got a bit... expensive for me. Also, I guess I should bring a ton of mana potions instead of health potions then? Yes, no getting away from it, trainings are hideously expensive. But you really need Pack Rat, so train that exclusively if you have to. Now, here's something for you to think about. A Godly Health Potion restores 100% of your base health, and additionally restores 10% of your base health for 50 turns. Sounds good, right? Well, assuming 0 supportive proficiency and 0 Holy EDB... 1 Cure restores 50% of base health; 1 Regen restores 4.5% of base health over 10 rounds (OR) 1 Regen II restores 6% of base health over 25 rounds. Sounds less useful than a HP pot, until you consider that: ( a ) The spells will only get better as your proficiencies improve; at my proficiency of 243 and level of 257, Cure restores something like half my MAX HP (not half of base); Regen restores slightly more than 5% of my MAX HP for 25 rounds or thereabouts. ( b ) A Godly Mana Potion restores 100% of base mana (spread out over 5 rounds). For me, that's about 2x my level... but a Cure only costs 20% of my level, and Regen costs 25%, while Regen II costs 75%. In other words, each Cure only costs 10% of my base mana, and each Regen 12.5%. Each Godly Mana Potion, therefore, is packing the equivalent of 4 Cures and 4 Regens, plus a bit left over. So, yes, once your proficiencies are up, mana pots are ALWAYS better than health pots. QUOTE And here's a [ i.imgur.com] repost of my equips and stats so far, maybe you didn't see it the first time when I asked about the axe. I'm working on it, but it'll take a while and some luck I guess. No, I saw, that; what I meant was, I can't tell you whether your specific equip is good compared to the best we've recorded so far in the wiki, unless you give a link like Superior Buckler of the Battlecaster, from which I can see that the mana conservation and block precentage are very, very high - and therefore this equip might be worth keeping. @Uno: How come Quartermaster isn't really needed? Not sure of the logic there.
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Jan 24 2013, 18:08
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Aspire4740
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QUOTE(ChosenUno @ Jan 24 2013, 23:49)  Nope. Max out pack rat first. After that, I think you should concentrate on scavenger until your pot income is positive.
After that, you can begin to diversify your training portfolio into archeologist and other things.
Keep the drop trainings' costs equal is the best. Except for quartermaster, it's not really needed now.
Can I safely say - do 1x Scavenger, followed by 1x Luck of the Draw, then followed by 1x Archaeologist for the time being? I don't make much credits, as my main income is through clearing the daily arenas (max is about 10k/day) when I have the time. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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Jan 24 2013, 19:28
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fishinsea
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QUOTE(Aspire4740 @ Jan 24 2013, 11:08)  Can I safely say - do 1x Scavenger, followed by 1x Luck of the Draw, then followed by 1x Archaeologist for the time being?
Just don't get assimilator
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Jan 24 2013, 19:54
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janusi
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QUOTE(xmagus @ Jan 24 2013, 17:57)  HELPFUL ADVICE
Point taken. QUOTE(xmagus @ Jan 24 2013, 17:57)  No, I saw, that; what I meant was, I can't tell you whether your specific equip is good compared to the best we've recorded so far in the wiki, unless you give a link like Superior Buckler of the Battlecaster, from which I can see that the mana conservation and block precentage are very, very high - and therefore this equip might be worth keeping. Oh. Oh, sorry about that. Ok then, here's my Axe and offhand sword. I'm really hesitant about parting with the latter. I know PA stacking is a great strat right now but until I find some amazing rapier I don't think I'll be replacing it too soon.
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Jan 24 2013, 20:48
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losernyeo
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You really don't need an amazing rapier. Something with a high proc chance and duration of PA and a good accuracy. Doesn't even need to be ethereal. You could probably get something pretty good for ~10k in WTS.
To be completely fair, if you're not playing at high difficulties you won't see the need right now but you'll probably want it pretty soon.
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Jan 24 2013, 21:55
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Extr3m3Otaku22
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QUOTE(xmagus @ Jan 24 2013, 01:05)  4. HVSTAT works off Scan, so once a mob is upgraded, you need to Scan again. But given the many millions of crystals 501st will need to be upgraded to the next level, chances are you won't need to scan her for a few months.
Great to know. Just one last question with the HVSTAT, why do some enemies show a PL as say 340 even, but a lot of the scans show a PL of like 337+. My question is why does one say a exact PL and most others show the PL with a + added to it? Does that mean it has a higher PL and just shows it's current PL for the difficulty?
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Jan 24 2013, 23:57
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fishinsea
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QUOTE(Extr3m3Otaku22 @ Jan 24 2013, 14:55)  Great to know. Just one last question with the HVSTAT, why do some enemies show a PL as say 340 even, but a lot of the scans show a PL of like 337+. My question is why does one say a exact PL and most others show the PL with a + added to it? Does that mean it has a higher PL and just shows it's current PL for the difficulty?
It means it's been awhile since the last scan and the PL of the monster may have increased since that time. The plus sign means at least (not 100% sure but based on previous usage it seems that way, stopped because it lags too much)
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Jan 25 2013, 00:48
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entmote
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I have decided to go mage and wanted to know what i should use i have gossamer elementalist gear and use a redwood staff of focus is this a ok set up or do i need to change my staff sorry for all the noob questions but this games got me hooked
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Jan 25 2013, 03:26
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Extr3m3Otaku22
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QUOTE(fishinsea @ Jan 24 2013, 13:57)  It means it's been awhile since the last scan and the PL of the monster may have increased since that time. The plus sign means at least (not 100% sure but based on previous usage it seems that way, stopped because it lags too much)
Well that's a bit weird cuz after I scan them their showing the + on the PL. Seems impossible that someone's increasing the PL 99% of the time right as I scan them. QUOTE(entmote @ Jan 24 2013, 14:48)  I have decided to go mage and wanted to know what i should use i have gossamer elementalist gear and use a redwood staff of focus is this a ok set up or do i need to change my staff sorry for all the noob questions but this games got me hooked
I'm not sure about the setup and all; however, if that is a good setup and ur looking for an upgrade I might have a decent chest piece for u, if you want it. http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=dccb33c0b1
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Jan 25 2013, 04:46
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entmote
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thanks but one i have is same with a couple of bits higher only need pants and feet sup to be full it was the wand i was asking about i wondered if there was a better one for me as i am trying for elementalist mage
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