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post Jan 21 2013, 23:27
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QUOTE(Derpro @ Jan 21 2013, 13:23) *
I'm not sure what's going on here. I can't upgrade.

QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jan 20 2013, 00:56) *
- The training Karma Amplification was disabled and will eventually be removed.

- Aura Slots were removed. There are no longer any arbitrary limitations to how many auras can be active.


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post Jan 21 2013, 23:35
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I have been away from HV for almost a year, and now I just noticed that the proficiency system changed (And I have 2 restorative proficiency) Any ways to level it up?
Just buy mana potions and spam cure at grindfest?
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post Jan 21 2013, 23:39
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Guys, would someone more knowledgeable about the market help me check a couple items?
Didn't want to open an auction because of time costraints, but I lost thousands credits in the past because of the exact same reason, and I don't want a couple of decent pieces to just rot in my inventory again (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
The majority of them is (methinks) borderline salvage stuff, and a couple more I'm not sure are worth auctioning (probably just the Fenrir piece)...

Any thought/help would be much appreciated (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Well, here we go:

Magnificent Leather Helmet of the Thrice Blessed
I'm not sure someone would take a chance with salvage because HG Leather seems to be the cheapest...

Magnificent Kevlar Gauntlets of Stoneskin
6 PAB and 341 PXP.
Salvage material in hope of a high-grade?

Exquisite Buckler of the Battlecaster
4 PAB with decent values, seems also to have good block

Superior Shield Greaves of the Barrier
The block is huge, but they're not the best all around.
Should I just keep them because they won't net much? How much do they usually go for?

Superior Phase Cap off Niflheim
4PAB but it's elemental, EDB seems weak too :E

Exquisite Phase Gloves of Fenrir
Fenrir seems to be popular but 3rd PAB it's Dex :/

Exquisite Phase Shoes of Freyr
3PAB, again elemental

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post Jan 21 2013, 23:50
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does that mean I'm gonna get some credits back? I recently started playing and it hasn't even been a week since I was low on credits and was struggling on what to choose to upgrade and I chose a new aura slot. DARN.
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post Jan 21 2013, 23:53
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does that mean I'm gonna get some credits back? I recently started playing and it hasn't even been a week since I was low on credits and was struggling on what to choose to upgrade and I chose a new aura slot. DARN.

NExt update, if Tenboro remembers.
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post Jan 22 2013, 00:24
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Question about rending blow order - is PA applied before or after the damage?
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post Jan 22 2013, 00:45
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Hey guys, I was curious about the Flying Spaghetti Monster. The other day I got 3 Tokens of Blood and I decided to try killing him on IWBTH, I got him to about 97% and then I died. I'm curious at what level of difficulty is the right way to fight him at my lvl?

I'm able to get through IWBTH on Arena challenges til Test of Faith. So I figured I could take FSM on IWBTH too, but now i'm thinking of fighting him on Hard mode only for now. Should I be able to kill him on Hard? Or will I not be able to kill him at all til much higher lvl?
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post Jan 22 2013, 01:06
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QUOTE(wr4st3r @ Jan 21 2013, 17:39) *

Guys, would someone more knowledgeable about the market help me check a couple items?
Didn't want to open an auction because of time costraints, but I lost thousands credits in the past because of the exact same reason, and I don't want a couple of decent pieces to just rot in my inventory again (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
The majority of them is (methinks) borderline salvage stuff, and a couple more I'm not sure are worth auctioning (probably just the Fenrir piece)...

Any thought/help would be much appreciated (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Well, here we go:

Magnificent Leather Helmet of the Thrice Blessed
I'm not sure someone would take a chance with salvage because HG Leather seems to be the cheapest...

What's it Bazaar for? If it's less than the price of a MG (likely outcome), Salvage, else Bazaar.

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Magnificent Kevlar Gauntlets of Stoneskin
6 PAB and 341 PXP.
Salvage material in hope of a high-grade?

Give to random Light Armor newbie, they'll use those for a hundred levels until the PMI loss from not being Protection matters. Else Bazaar (generally, we Bazaar T2/3 stuff rather than salvage).

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Exquisite Buckler of the Battlecaster
4 PAB with decent values, seems also to have good block

Avoidance is indeed good, for a non-Barrier/Nimble. But, what people want out of BC Buckers is usually MC, and that MC blows (the max is at least 20). 1H just isn't a common style. On the other hand, Bucklers salvage into Wood, and have you seen the price on MG/HG Wood these days?

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Superior Shield Greaves of the Barrier
The block is huge, but they're not the best all around.
Should I just keep them because they won't net much? How much do they usually go for?


Might keep those around. No idea what they're worth, but that Block is pretty high, Barrier is rather rare, and guess which defense wasn't borked by the patch?

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Superior Phase Cap of Niflheim
4PAB but it's elemental, EDB seems weak too :E

Exquisite Phase Gloves of Fenrir
Fenrir seems to be popular but 3rd PAB it's Dex :/

Exquisite Phase Shoes of Freyr
3PAB, again elemental


The Fenrir will sell to someone, we buy INT/WIS Fenrir just fine, DEX just doesn't add much value compared to AGI. Those are actually pretty nice.

The Freyr and Nif, if you had a shop I'd list them but not really expect them to move. Supply exceeds demand on those by enough that honestly little below Exquisite is going to move unless it's exceptional. The Nif is 4 PAB (good), decent Evade (good), meh AGI/WIS (bad), meh EDB (bad). The Shoes are also meh EDB , ExMax Evade, good WIS, shitty INT. For what Phase needs to have to be good at that EDB, look at the Nif shoes in my signature. I would appraise both elemental pieces at about 10k in a shop. Phase is T3, so expected salvage value is below Bazaar value. Ain't supply and demand grand?

I don't even look at Nif below Exquisite in shops anymore, but I'm pretty damn picky at this point.



QUOTE(Extr3m3Otaku22 @ Jan 21 2013, 18:45) *

Hey guys, I was curious about the Flying Spaghetti Monster. The other day I got 3 Tokens of Blood and I decided to try killing him on IWBTH, I got him to about 97% and then I died. I'm curious at what level of difficulty is the right way to fight him at my lvl?

I'm able to get through IWBTH on Arena challenges til Test of Faith. So I figured I could take FSM on IWBTH too, but now i'm thinking of fighting him on Hard mode only for now. Should I be able to kill him on Hard? Or will I not be able to kill him at all til much higher lvl?


If you only took 3% of his HP off, kill him once on Normal for the credits, then save the Tokens until you can farm him on IWBTH. You get much more powerful as you head towards 200, Regen II at 150, Heartseeker at 170 (if you're melee) and Spirit Shield at 190 are very good. Honestly, at level 147 I'd just hit 150 for Regen II before challenging him at all because it really is that good.

What approach were you using to take him on?

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post Jan 22 2013, 01:24
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QUOTE(PK678353 @ Jan 22 2013, 01:06) *

Give to random Light Armor newbie, they'll use those for a hundred levels until the PMI loss from not being Protection matters. Else Bazaar (generally, we Bazaar T2/3 stuff rather than salvage).

Can you clarify on "They'll use those for a hundred levels until the PMI loss from not being Protection matters." ?

I'm on the "Light armor newbie" class, I believe (Even though I already have a kevlar gauntlet), but I didn't understand what you meant.
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post Jan 22 2013, 01:26
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If you died that fast to FSM you probably got one shot by his spirit attack. Without knowing what happened its hard to say.
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post Jan 22 2013, 01:31
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QUOTE(PK678353 @ Jan 21 2013, 15:06) *

I don't even look at Nif below Exquisite in shops anymore, but I'm pretty damn picky at this point.
If you only took 3% of his HP off, kill him once on Normal for the credits, then save the Tokens until you can farm him on IWBTH. You get much more powerful as you head towards 200, Regen II at 150, Heartseeker at 170 (if you're melee) and Spirit Shield at 190 are very good. Honestly, at level 147 I'd just hit 150 for Regen II before challenging him at all because it really is that good.

What approach were you using to take him on?


Lol, I'm a tank type with shield, my approach was basically the same as IWBTH arena's, I cast protect and spark of life (i keep them up all the time), then I just melee him down til I got enough spirit and use spirit stance. I'd generally wait til I was down 25-50% hp then use Cure II, but one of the times he just hit me so hard I just got one shot.
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post Jan 22 2013, 01:34
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QUOTE(aloc1234 @ Jan 21 2013, 19:24) *

Can you clarify on "They'll use those for a hundred levels until the PMI loss from not being Protection matters." ?

I'm on the "Light armor newbie" class, I believe (Even though I already have a kevlar gauntlet), but I didn't understand what you meant.


More of a general statement of opportunity cost rather than a 'at X point, 2% PMI will get you killed'.

When you can only afford basic Kevlar pieces, not being Protection isn't as big of a deal if the piece is otherwise exceptional (those Gauntlets have great PABs and Mag Max PMI for non-Protection). Once you start looking for top-notch gear though, Protection offers the best defense in Kevlar, period. At a budget of 20k, those Mags will at least match most things you can afford. At a budget of 200-500k, you can afford Magnificent or Legendary Protection with good rolls, so there's no reason to use suffixes that give overall worse defenses.


QUOTE(Extr3m3Otaku22 @ Jan 21 2013, 19:31) *

Lol, I'm a tank type with shield, my approach was basically the same as IWBTH arena's, I cast protect and spark of life (i keep them up all the time), then I just melee him down til I got enough spirit and use spirit stance. I'd generally wait til I was down 25-50% hp then use Cure II, but one of the times he just hit me so hard I just got one shot.


Regen II, Heartseeker, and more pots will help greatly. Use Cure over Cure II unless you're going to die immediately, it's far more MP efficient, and use Regen II over cure, for the same reason. Regen II covers 80% of the incoming damage for me on IWBTH FSM, and I'm in Phase. I can literally hold down R until my HP looks to be in the 50% range or a buff starts running out.

The second thing, you may need to debuff FSM. Get Weaken and Silence maxed and use them (I've got Imperil and Slow running, but I can use SS over Silence, which saves a debuff slot). You may be tanky enough to not need Weaken, but Silence means he won't be OHKO Spirit attacking you.

Last, you probably want more damage. Seriously consider switching to DW to fight him, he's a huge, giant pile of HP. An offhand Rapier still gives fairly good defense, and PA is still good. Make sure both weapons are Void damage, he's very resistant to normal weapons. A Holy Infusion or two on the mainhand wouldn't hurt either.

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post Jan 22 2013, 01:47
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QUOTE(Extr3m3Otaku22 @ Jan 22 2013, 07:31) *

Lol, I'm a tank type with shield, my approach was basically the same as IWBTH arena's, I cast protect and spark of life (i keep them up all the time), then I just melee him down til I got enough spirit and use spirit stance. I'd generally wait til I was down 25-50% hp then use Cure II, but one of the times he just hit me so hard I just got one shot.

silence , weaken & slow is your friend here (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jan 22 2013, 01:51
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Thanks for helping me out with this stuff PK! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

I'll elaborate on a couple things:

QUOTE(PK678353 @ Jan 22 2013, 00:06) *

What's it Bazaar for? If it's less than the price of a MG (likely outcome), Salvage, else Bazaar.

Give to random Light Armor newbie, they'll use those for a hundred levels until the PMI loss from not being Protection matters. Else Bazaar (generally, we Bazaar T2/3 stuff rather than salvage).


Not that I know anyone doing it, but my thought behind those 2 mags was that maybe someone would be willing to take his chances and try to net some HG via salvage - I'd much rather get a little more credits out of them.

I guess it's just a stupid idea lol...

QUOTE(PK678353 @ Jan 22 2013, 00:06) *

Avoidance is indeed good, for a non-Barrier/Nimble. But, what people want out of BC Buckers is usually MC, and that MC blows (the max is at least 20). 1H just isn't a common style. On the other hand, Bucklers salvage into Wood, and have you seen the price on MG/HG Wood these days?


Item shop bot says 3k for MG and 75k for HG, but given the PXP a HG seems unlikely...

If all I get is 3k, I'll just keep it for my 1H made of random drops (it's way stronger then my Power set even with some Warding + Spirit Ward pieces sigh (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) )

I don't understand the MC though, you're saying max is 20 but wiki says max is 8.94. Am I missing something here?

Maybe it's just my script being broken (it is actually, I can't see PMI and Damage Mitigations) :E

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post Jan 22 2013, 01:59
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QUOTE(wr4st3r @ Jan 21 2013, 19:51) *

Thanks for helping me out with this stuff PK! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

I'll elaborate on a couple things:
Not that I know anyone doing it, but my thought behind those 2 mags was that maybe someone would be willing to take his chances and try to net some HG via salvage - I'd much rather get a little more credits out of them.

I guess it's just a stupid idea lol...

You'll see people at every auction trying to pick up Mags for start bid, even if they're worthless Cotton (unless start is like 10k), with intent to salvage.


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Item shop bot says 3k for MG and 75k for HG, but given the PXP a HG seems unlikely...

If all I get is 3k, I'll just keep it for my 1H made of random drops (it's way stronger then my Power set even with some Warding + Spirit Ward pieces sigh (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) )

I don't understand the MC though, you're saying max is 20 but wiki says max is 8.94. Am I missing something here?

Maybe it's just my script being broken (it is actually, I can't see PMI and Damage Mitigations) :E


It's because skillchip does batch updates every few weeks rather than every time the thread is updated for sake of his sanity. Fine Buckler of the Battlecaster may not be max, but it's the highest posted in the thread so far. The wiki is more accurate for more common and popular gear, since it's all user reported, and BC Buckler isn't exactly common or popular.

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post Jan 22 2013, 02:22
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QUOTE(PK678353 @ Jan 22 2013, 00:59) *

It's because skillchip does batch updates every few weeks rather than every time the thread is updated for sake of his sanity. Fine Buckler of the Battlecaster may not be max, but it's the highest posted in the thread so far. The wiki is more accurate for more common and popular gear, since it's all user reported, and BC Buckler isn't exactly common or popular.


Oh screw me, I forgot he's still updating it! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jan 22 2013, 03:09
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Thanks for the help guys. Once I get more Karma I'll imbue u guys. Although I wish we still had our Karma meters still... I miss those things. Karma appears to be useless now though.
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When I get enough Hath should I pick up IA 3 or should I keep pushing on to get Rainbow Aura?
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post Jan 22 2013, 04:45
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