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Well, one would need to figure out how much resistance they have to elec or soul.

Digdigdig ah there it is, thankfully it had a decent name for once. Schoolgirl resistance is so much easier to recognize then book15.

The three have +75% resistance to elemental, and -1% to dark/holy. As for soul... Shrug

Konata has +75% to everything except wind (didn't test soul), and -1% to wind.

To Mikuru Asahina, if your physical attack damage is 1500:
Dark:757.5 damage
Soul: (?)
Elec:187.5

If anyone needs me I'm going to go hide somewhere else.

The 3 schoolgirls have 20% Soul resist I believe (it was from a really old Tenboro post, I am not digging it up). Don't know about Konata.

So, that would be 600 damage from a weapon with Soul Strike. Not bad, much better than you'd see from an Elemental Strike.

Here's the question;

Let's say I've got an shocking estoc that inflicts 1500 melee damage on Mikuru Asahina who is affected by the turbulent air status effect (procced by storm spikes), how much damage would elec strike inflict?

We think Turbulent Air knocks off about 25% elemental mitigation (same as Imperil). So, that Elec Strike would be up to 375 damage with one, 562.5 with both.

This post has been edited by PK678353: Jan 9 2013, 09:49

The 3 schoolgirls have 20% Soul resist I believe (it was from a really old Tenboro post, I am not digging it up). Don't know about Konata.

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...st&p=968384

If I have to make a blind guess, it will be 50% for konata.

If you guys had to rank the different elemental strikes, what would be the best ones (in general, not for one specific fight). I'd assume its soul, dark, and holy, but in what order and how much better are they?

Holy from a Hallowed Weapon is the best strike, since you get the side benefit of a buff to Cure. Ethereal is still better though.

On an Ethereal, I'd say Dark > Holy = Soul > Elec/Wind/Fire/Cold. Move Soul to the top if you aren't doing any schoolgirl marathons with the weapon, only Mechs resist Soul.

Holy/Dark/Soul are all top tier, the distance between Dark and Holy is small, the distance between Soul and Elec (probably best Elemental Strike) is larger.

Soul has the best overall resist profile, but it is resisted slightly by schoolgirls unlike Holy/Dark. Given their massive HP, that is a black mark against them, but outside schoolgirl marathons it shines. When was the last time you saw someone specifically buying Quintessence crystals in bulk?
Dark is best vs. Humanoids (Read: 501st, Liselotte), Celestials (Read: Celestia Lindwurm) and Sprites (Read:Bottle Fairy).
Holy beats Undead and Daimons, who aren't exactly slouching either.

Fire works vs. Undead, while Cold smacks Dragons around, Elec tears apart Mechs and doesn't fail vs Giants and Wind is decent vs Giants and Dragons. Honestly, given Tenboro's insistence that everything should interact with Elements (the default being 25% resist), they're all second-rate, but better than no strike.

However, on 90% of all weapons you would bother Maxing, it's not worth fishing for Holy/Dark/Soul unless they're 1H with 4 PABs.

This post has been edited by PK678353: Jan 9 2013, 13:04

Question. I finally reached 200 for 2H and so now I'm looking for a good 2H. I have lots of estocs, but none of them are ethereal...it is still worth it to get estoc instead of the other weapons when they are ethereal?

Question. I finally reached 200 for 2H and so now I'm looking for a good 2H. I have lots of estocs, but none of them are ethereal...it is still worth it to get estoc instead of the other weapons when they are ethereal?

Yes for sure, especially when the monsters you're now facing all have high mitigation.
Ethereal it's the only way out; you can also get an elemental estoc and IW that to level 10 to get hollowforged (void damage).

Are you using Heavy Armor or Kevlar? If so, the answer is probably still yes. PA adds a crapload of damage.

Yes for sure, especially when the monsters you're now facing all have high mitigation.
Ethereal it's the only way out; you can also get an elemental estoc and IW that to level 10 to get hollowforged (void damage).

The problem is I am loving the burden and interference freeness but I suppose it is time to try my estocs out.

Also, I am using heavy.

This post has been edited by SPoison: Jan 9 2013, 13:55

The problem is I am loving the burden and interference freeness but I suppose it is time to try my estocs out.

Also, I am using heavy.

Use one Featherweight Shard. Problem solved. Yay (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Use one Featherweight Shard. Problem solved. Yay (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Or save up and buy an ethereal estoc of slaughter. Probably one of the best investments you can make as a melee.


This post has been edited by T_Starrk: Jan 9 2013, 15:47

Or save up and buy an ethereal estoc of slaughter. Probably one of the best investments you can make as a melee.

Demonic/Elementals are better since you don't go russian roulette on the 10th potency.

Demonic/Elementals are better since you don't go russian roulette on the 10th potency.

Meh, it's more of a preference issue for me. I don't use like using a FW shard on my weapon every time I play. Yeah, the 10th potency is a pain in the ass, but I'll eventually get my dark/holy/soul strike (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) . Ethereal has the potential to be better than elemental, if you're willing to put the time in.

There is no benefit of buying piercing weapon for the Penetrated Armor proc when that weapon has Ethereal prefix? Since none monsters has void mitigation. No matter how high their physical mitigation stats are, they can't stop void attacks, right?

If you're low level, mitigation is less of a problem and a regular rapier for dw purposes works out fine for a good while because offhand damage is somewhat gimped.

There is no benefit of buying piercing weapon for the Penetrated Armor proc when that weapon has Ethereal prefix? Since none monsters has void mitigation. No matter how high their physical mitigation stats are, they can't stop void attacks, right?

Void bypasses *specific* physical mitigation (i.e. piercing/slashing/crushing).

Penetrated Armor (PA) bypasses *generic* physical mitigation (as opposed to generic *magical* mitigation, for instance).

The best 2H weapon is therefore an Estoc (which procs PA) with Void-type damage (Ethereal/Hollowforged/Voidseeker Sharded), which effectively ignores *all* physical mitigations. My Fine Hallowed Estoc of Slaughter, once I got it to MAX level (and hence Hollowforged), reduces the number of rounds it takes to kill off FSM by 1/3, compared to my Exquisite Arctic Estoc of Slaughter (which has a nominally higher ADB, but is not Hollowforged) - even when I infuse Holy Strike on it.

how to reduced mana cost ?

how to reduced mana cost ?

1. Use Suffused Aether
2. Use Battlecaster weapon(melee)
3. Use Featherweight Charm on your armour/weapon to reduce interference
4. Use spirit stance to cast spells

I'm a 2H user a bit above lvl 200 as well and judging from your conversation I should probably get an ethereal Estoc..

Should I wait until one drops and keep this one http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=464adc3a5b or try finding one in a player shop?

I don't have that much money and I'm still a bit confused about the quality of equipment..

how to reduced mana cost ?

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Spells#Spell_Costs

I'm a 2H user a bit above lvl 200 as well and judging from your conversation I should probably get an ethereal Estoc..

Should I wait until one drops and keep this one http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=464adc3a5b or try finding one in a player shop?

I don't have that much money and I'm still a bit confused about the quality of equipment..

The drop rate for ethreal estoc is quite low. You can just buy an superior ethreal estoc of slaughter for about 50k-100k. An exquisite one is about 300k-600k.