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post Dec 13 2012, 07:22
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QUOTE(Slobber @ Dec 13 2012, 03:59) *

Nice filtering. That was probably the best tldr version conceivable for why SoL on IA is good

Although I'd say IA "lowers" the mana cost moreso than averages it ^^


I don't use the term 'lower' as it may be confused with the IA2+ bonus. It's more than that.
'Average out' means the cost per turn is (spell cost/duration), which is close to what averaging usually means. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

QUOTE(T_Starrk @ Dec 13 2012, 11:58) *

I'd rather have the butcher personally. I'm still skeptical as to how much SS helps on a TH weapon. It's not like dual wield where you can have two SS. lv.5 weapons that stack.


If Skillchip's formula is correct, then lv.5 SS can be viewed as having a 10% speed boost on attacks, which is equal to the bonus from x-attack. So it's the comparison between (hitting with +butcher damage 10 times) and (hitting with normal damage for 11 times). The comparison is quite difficult for 2H due to domino strike. And well....if you go further, you may also need to assume you're just a tiny bit faster than some monsters, so you can kill them before they hit you.

QUOTE(zentetsuken @ Dec 13 2012, 12:43) *

a bit off topic, what's this Superior Phase Gloves of Heimdall worth?

i cant help to understand how each item worth is estimated, near stat n such (i ald got the Eq base value display and i still cant makes the heads n tails of it) and if possible the general knowledge or rules of proxy in market.


For phase it's all about EDB, INT/WIS, and AGI. Your glove has around 3.5 base EDB, which is about 2 slot below the max. People isn't going to pay too much for this.

QUOTE(SPoison @ Dec 13 2012, 13:00) *

So I've been waiting until I reached 200 to just go to the shrine and go nuts. Question, I am going to throw it all in there but is there a specific place I should place certain trophies...I mean the bosses, legendaries, and ultimates? I am probably going to make 2H with heavy plates my main thing from now on, so of course I am not going to go for staffs, shields, or cloth...but light is questionable...heavy should I just use the legendaries or mix and match? Also, I do like 1H weapons because of DW...well, I am being confusing, but thoughts?


2H and heavy is different. For 2H it is the tier 1 which worths more, for heavy it's the tier 1 and tier 3. That's plainly why they're popular choice for shrining now. Light isn't a popular choice as you need tier 2 and tier 3, and not that many are using them. 1H isn't a good choice IMO because of the sheer amount of 1H weapon you can get.
As for which trophy to shrine...it's up to you. If you have some luck, you may get a legendary power armor of slaughter from noodly. If you don't, you may get a superior katana of nothing from noodly.

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post Dec 13 2012, 11:27
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I think ppl need Light tier 2&3, not tier 1&3. So far I havent met any 200+ using any leather pieces
So best place for noodly is Light, Heavy and 2H right? Since Cloth, staff and 1H have too many choices and not many ppl need shield
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post Dec 13 2012, 11:51
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QUOTE(rally9981 @ Dec 13 2012, 13:27) *
I think ppl need Light tier 2&3, not tier 1&3. So far I havent met any 200+ using any leather pieces
So best place for noodly is Light, Heavy and 2H right? Since Cloth, staff and 1H have too many choices and not many ppl need shield

The only reasonable place for noodles is weapon, and maybe heavy armor. Legendary Cotton and Leather are useless.
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post Dec 13 2012, 11:54
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QUOTE(rally9981 @ Dec 13 2012, 01:27) *

I think ppl need Light tier 2&3, not tier 1&3. So far I havent met any 200+ using any leather pieces
So best place for noodly is Light, Heavy and 2H right? Since Cloth, staff and 1H have too many choices and not many ppl need shield


I wouldn't select light armor either. Nobody wants leather, and perhaps except for outstanding Protection pieces, nobody wants kevlar either. So you're left with shade, and out of four possible suffixes, only two are usually desirable. And finally, even if you do score a nice piece, there aren't going to be as many people fighting over it in WTS.

Personally I exchange Noodly Appendages for staffs because that's what I personally need, in terms of risk and reward, two-handed and heavy armor are the best choices.
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post Dec 13 2012, 12:05
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So it comes down to 2H, heavy armor for nice salable things and what you personally need, right?
Well, i got this the other day so i thought Light should be applied but seems i was wrong

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post Dec 13 2012, 12:12
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QUOTE(rally9981 @ Dec 13 2012, 14:05) *
So it comes down to 2H, heavy armor for nice salable things and what you personally need, right?
Well, i got this the other day so i thought Light should be applied but seems i was wrong

I've tried to put noodles into Light as well long time ago (in 0.6.2-0.6.3 times), and got any luck only once.
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post Dec 13 2012, 12:18
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As I've said, if you have luck you can just throw your trophies into everything and still get something decent. But since most of us don't have that kind of luck, it's better to focus on those giving the most stable rewards.

But then you're still going to get shits if snowflake hates you (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Dec 13 2012, 12:18
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formula for total PMI, please.
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post Dec 13 2012, 12:19
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QUOTE(irvin123455 @ Dec 13 2012, 18:18) *

formula for total PMI, please.


http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Character_Stats#Mitigation
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post Dec 13 2012, 12:31
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QUOTE(varst @ Dec 13 2012, 16:19) *


CODE
Physical Mitigation = 1 - (1 - equip_bonus) * (1 - aura_bonus) * (1 - STR * 0.04%) * (1 - END * 0.07%)

Seems like something wrong here
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(1 - STR * 0.04%) * (1 - END * 0.07%)

if i decrease all my STR to 25 i gets 100% PMI?
or if i have STR<25 and END>14 my PMI be over 100%?

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post Dec 13 2012, 12:34
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QUOTE(irvin123455 @ Dec 13 2012, 18:31) *

CODE
Physical Mitigation = 1 - (1 - equip_bonus) * (1 - aura_bonus) * (1 - STR * 0.04%) * (1 - END * 0.07%)

Seems like something wrong here
CODE
(1 - STR * 0.04%) * (1 - END * 0.07%)

if i decrease all my STR to 25 i gets 100% PMI?
or if i have STR<25 and END>17 my PMI be over 100%?


That's 0.04% and 0.07%
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post Dec 13 2012, 12:36
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QUOTE(varst @ Dec 13 2012, 16:34) *

That's 0.04% and 0.07%

0.04% and 0.07% from what?
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post Dec 13 2012, 12:37
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STR * 0.04% = STR * 0.0004
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oh, im understand, sorry.)

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post Dec 13 2012, 16:26
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How many drops can you have in one round?

My maximum seem to be 5 drops. Scavenger is at level 40.

Will I get more drops when I will train Scavenger even more?
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post Dec 13 2012, 16:38
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QUOTE(Mantra64 @ Dec 13 2012, 16:26) *

How many drops can you have in one round?

My maximum seem to be 5 drops. Scavenger is at level 40.

Will I get more drops when I will train Scavenger even more?

The maximum drop is 10, one per monster. You are just unlucky with RNG
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post Dec 13 2012, 16:41
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Ok, i need some serious advice. I found an exquisite demonic axe of slaughter and hesitated because i did not know if it was good or not to spend all my money on. Then i saw it disappear (did not know that). What are the stats i need to be looking for (as in min rolls and such?).
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post Dec 13 2012, 16:48
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QUOTE(Raurusama @ Dec 13 2012, 16:41) *

Ok, i need some serious advice. I found an exquisite demonic axe of slaughter and hesitated because i did not know if it was good or not to spend all my money on. Then i saw it disappear (did not know that). What are the stats i need to be looking for (as in min rolls and such?).

Assuming you already installed the Item Comparison script.

Look at WD (a must for Slaughter suffix), how many PAB (better if it has STR and DEX for more damage), what type of EDB (if it have prefix, Hallow, Demonic, and Astral are most ideal, but other elementals are fine too, except maybe Arctic), then check if it have serious Burden/Inference problem, then everything else are for pass.
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post Dec 13 2012, 16:53
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The thing is this axe had all 4 PAB and demonic prefix, but i did not know what WD to look for or what burden to stick to. I'll check that Item script you mentioned thanks.
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QUOTE(Raurusama @ Dec 13 2012, 16:53) *

The thing is this axe had all 4 PAB and demonic prefix, but i did not know what WD to look for or what burden to stick to. I'll check that Item script you mentioned thanks.

For exquisite slaughter axe, 57+ WD is good. 4PAB just means the axe is excellent deal if within your personal price range, since 4PAB means in IW only Butcher and Swiftstrike will be the only possible Potencies.

Burden/inference depends on your overall equipment burden/inference: if you dont felt battles becoming any harder with new axe, then you are fine; otherwise, better seek other less-weighty equipments instead.
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