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Dec 9 2012, 22:54
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etothex
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QUOTE(nakata545 @ Dec 9 2012, 12:15)  I can't really tell whether I need to work on my equips (need better or level in IW), profs, or if I just have too high expectations for how strong I should be at my level, but I feel like I'm having a bit too much trouble doing even medium length arenas at nintendo or higher.
profs look fine to me. PMI could be a bit higher, but should only really matter for lengthier iwbth; should be ok for BT. Hmm i shoulda kept some screenshots of my stats at various times; would be useful to compare. Think i was running 68%/65% pmi (iwbth, non iwbth), maybe 3600 attack, and everything was fine. I have an eth, so maybe less interference & dmg resist made it easier for me, but maybe you consider shards for longer runs? Pack rat done? You sure got a lot of ability points sitting there. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Might get easier once you hit 200 2hand prof for the full range domino. This post has been edited by etothex: Dec 9 2012, 22:57
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Dec 10 2012, 04:18
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VriskaSerket
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my current strategy: 1. almost maxed plate of protection + estoc. all gear 10 lvl. 2. 2 IA slots: SS + protection (soon will be haste in 3rd) 3. always active Regen2, Absorb, HeartSeeker (mostly from channeling) 4. First goal - Big five. 5. Spirit channeling on maxed overcharge. 6. + lots Shards for IW. Some advice, I missed nothing?
This post has been edited by irvin123455: Dec 10 2012, 04:22
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Dec 10 2012, 05:09
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losernyeo
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Ugh, I hit 200 before I finished IWing my estoc. Now I'll have to do it on easy probably.
So far I've had to drop arena difficulty 1 or 2 levels :/ Need to power through XD
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Dec 10 2012, 05:18
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Coma
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QUOTE(irvin123455 @ Dec 10 2012, 04:18)  my current strategy: 1. almost maxed plate of protection + estoc. all gear 10 lvl. 2. 2 IA slots: SS + protection (soon will be haste in 3rd) 3. always active Regen2, Absorb, HeartSeeker (mostly from channeling) 4. First goal - Big five. 5. Spirit channeling on maxed overcharge. 6. + lots Shards for IW. Some advice, I missed nothing?
Seems quite expensive and long-term I suggest you clear the weaklings before the Big Five, the last thing you want is having a 10-way gang-bang while you focusing on Eila (they take much longer to down) Sometimes it is better to turn on Spirit Stance as soon as you can (perhaps around 200OC or there is only one monster) Having full Protection Plate can drag down your clear time and put a decent in mana if you aint lucky, how about mix a Slaughter or two? You dont have to IW armor to 10, but having a lvl10 weapon is a must and shall be the top priority
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Dec 10 2012, 05:42
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fishinsea
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Or just turn off spirit stance at times to always have OC for spirit cleave one shot at the beginning. 4 mob with eila is worse than 10 regular 400 pl mobs. Curious to why absorb in non-schoolgirl though, as I've tried it in trio when I got a spare channeling and it didn't proc the entire fight (from round 7 to 100, max absorb). IW is too boring, gave up at level 8 (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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Dec 10 2012, 05:55
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Mi-Ala Starbreeze
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Since Focus regenerates mana I am curious if there is some way to gain spirit aside from pots/Banshee suffix?
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Dec 10 2012, 06:05
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Coma
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QUOTE(Mi-Ala Starbreeze @ Dec 10 2012, 05:55)  Since Focus regenerates mana I am curious if there is some way to gain spirit aside from pots/Banshee suffix?
Nope, unless you count on the Spirit Gem Note: Defend regenerates health
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Dec 10 2012, 06:07
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etothex
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QUOTE(irvin123455 @ Dec 9 2012, 18:18)  my current strategy: 1. almost maxed plate of protection + estoc. all gear 10 lvl. 2. 2 IA slots: SS + protection (soon will be haste in 3rd) 3. always active Regen2, Absorb, HeartSeeker (mostly from channeling) 4. First goal - Big five. 5. Spirit channeling on maxed overcharge. 6. + lots Shards for IW. Some advice, I missed nothing?
know how much OC you need to kill big 5 w/ cleave or spirited cleave, and try to keep OC above that amount. Or count turns so you know if you should save OC for em or not. You should definitely be able to run IWBTH IW exq w/ some slaughters w/o worry about the drop in PMI, maybe even Magnis. Wouldn't know about legendaries. QUOTE(Mi-Ala Starbreeze @ Dec 9 2012, 19:55)  Since Focus regenerates mana I am curious if there is some way to gain spirit aside from pots/Banshee suffix?
battle regen, that's it.
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Dec 10 2012, 06:07
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VriskaSerket
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QUOTE(Coma @ Dec 10 2012, 09:18)  Seems quite expensive and long-term
I suggest you clear the weaklings before the Big Five, the last thing you want is having a 10-way gang-bang while you focusing on Eila (they take much longer to down)
Sometimes it is better to turn on Spirit Stance as soon as you can (perhaps around 200OC or there is only one monster)
Having full Protection Plate can drag down your clear time and put a decent in mana if you aint lucky, how about mix a Slaughter or two? You dont have to IW armor to 10, but having a lvl10 weapon is a must and shall be the top priority
Even i focused on Eila, some others usually dies from domino strike. if i focused on clearing others instead, i'm getting many of crits from Eila with friends. Still searching some good slaughter gear. That's my top priority for now. QUOTE(fishinsea @ Dec 10 2012, 09:42)  Or just turn off spirit stance at times to always have OC for spirit cleave one shot at the beginning. 4 mob with eila is worse than 10 regular 400 pl mobs. Curious to why absorb in non-schoolgirl though, as I've tried it in trio when I got a spare channeling and it didn't proc the entire fight (from round 7 to 100, max absorb). IW is too boring, gave up at level 8 (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Did'n have so much problem from eila, so don't waiting her(?) with full overcharge. Absorb usually not procs, but ~80 mp not too much cost for useless spell.
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Dec 10 2012, 06:18
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Coma
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QUOTE(irvin123455 @ Dec 10 2012, 06:07)  Even i focused on Eila, some others usually dies from domino strike. if i focused on clearing others instead, i'm getting many of crits from Eila with friends.
You do know that Domino Strike wont proc if the main target parry/evade it? Eila loves to parry/evade like there isnt tomorrow. At least the weaklings aint parrying as often as Eila like mad. Just suggesting to play it safe, that is all.
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Dec 10 2012, 06:29
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fishinsea
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QUOTE(Mi-Ala Starbreeze @ Dec 9 2012, 22:55)  Since Focus regenerates mana I am curious if there is some way to gain spirit aside from pots/Banshee suffix?
There's always soul harvest Of course not waiting with full overcharge, was thinking turn off at around 100, so you can always spirit for spells/cleave. But if eila is no problem then you won't need cleave so forget it. This post has been edited by fishinsea: Dec 10 2012, 06:34
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Dec 10 2012, 08:17
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PK678353
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QUOTE(SPoison @ Dec 9 2012, 08:10)  I have a question about keeping equipment. I am nearing my 1000 limit because I'm a hoarder and keep buying because I see something shiny and I have to have it. So my question is if there is any equipment which I should just constantly throw away no matter what? Like, should I just throw away all my cotton materials? If there are, which ones in each category?
Shameless plug (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) Equipment Valuation for DummiesQUOTE(Mi-Ala Starbreeze @ Dec 9 2012, 23:55)  Since Focus regenerates mana I am curious if there is some way to gain spirit aside from pots/Banshee suffix?
The proc from Soul Harvest (Ripened Soul I think) lets you hit them to regen some Spirit. Don't have the spell so I have no idea how much you get.
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Dec 10 2012, 08:33
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Coma
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QUOTE(fishinsea @ Dec 10 2012, 06:29)  There's always soul harvest
Soul Harvest: Base mana: 16.5 SP restored on hit: base SP / 20 Proc chance: 30% At my current SP, I can recover at least 15 SP per cast (higher if the debuff applies to two or more) This post has been edited by Coma: Dec 10 2012, 08:35
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Dec 10 2012, 09:31
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HigherMakoto
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So I'm in the market for a good Club for my DW build. What kind of stats should I be looking for and how much should i be looking to spend?
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Dec 10 2012, 10:04
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T_Starrk
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QUOTE(HigherMakoto @ Dec 9 2012, 22:31)  So I'm in the market for a good Club for my DW build. What kind of stats should I be looking for and how much should i be looking to spend?
My requirements would be slaughter (with high/near-max damage), ethereal (if using light armor), +20%/4 turn proc (really try to find one with 4 turns, monsters get a free move once stun wears off), and 4 PABs (strength and dexterity would be the most important though). Next most important stat is crit, while accuracy matters very little (especially if you wear accuracy boosting armor like shade or power). How much to spend depends on your budget and how important to you it is. I would spend millions if I found a club better than mine. This post has been edited by T_Starrk: Dec 10 2012, 10:08
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Dec 10 2012, 10:11
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HigherMakoto
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QUOTE(T_Starrk @ Dec 10 2012, 03:04)  My requirements would be slaughter (with high/near-max damage), ethereal (if using light armor), +20%/4 turn proc (really try to find one with 4 turns, monsters get a free move once stun wears off), and 4 PABs (strength and dexterity would be the most important though). Next most important stat is crit, while accuracy matters very little (especially if you wear accuracy boosting armor like shade or power).
How much to spend depends on your budget and how important to you it is. I would spend millions if I found a club better than mine.
Well, I am looking for a weapon to commit to and level up, but I don't really have millions of credits.
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Dec 10 2012, 13:30
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Bonebuster
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My fighting style is DW at the moment with these weapons Superior Club of Slaughter(Mainhand) and Exquisite Dagger of Slaughter (Offhand) I didnt level them because i want to wait till I reach at least level 200. I dont have any trouble fighting on IWTBH and can easily finish the first 11 Arenas on that difficulty. My current proficiency are DW:138.85 2H :0.94 But since i heard that that 2H weapons are better for Arena fights i thought i will give the 2H weapon a chance. But nothing comes even close to my current fighting style... And i doubt its only because my 2H prof. is that low. Or is it because these 2H weapons are shit? Any ideas? Here are the 2H weapons I tried so far Exquisite Hallowed Estoc of Balance, Exquisite Ethereal Estoc of Slaughter, Superior Mace of SlaughterThis post has been edited by Bonebuster: Dec 10 2012, 13:33
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Dec 10 2012, 13:50
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PK678353
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Well, it's certainly not that your Slaughter Estoc is shit. That's a fine sample there, not top notch but certainly good enough to not be the problem. I'm focusing on it because the other two are kind of meh. Balance sucks. Non-Void Maces aren't exactly stellar.
To a certain extent, it is your prof. For one thing, you're missing out on a few hundred base damage from prof, and you're missing out on Domino Strike chance, damage and reach. At our level, prof has actually started to matter, you'll have to drag that out of the gutter if you want to make 2H shine. At a prof that low I question if you've even given 2H as much of a shot as you say. I picked up 16 prof trying it out at about level 50 before I went all-in on maging, then another 12 revisiting it recently, just doing a single IWBTH Crude IW.
Perhaps most importantly, what kind of armor are you using here? Generally, the guys running Slaughter Estocs are in Heavy Plate/Power sets for mitigation, since their weapon isn't doing anything in that regard. The Club/Dagger combo makes me suspect you're in Light Armor, Shade I'd guess? Shade/Estoc is the balls-to-the-wall damage output way, but it can't go the distance without stupid good gear since you just don't have the survivability of Plate or Kevlar. Pure Power is about the same there, you really need a couple pieces of Plate of Protection to keep your ass alive. Shade/Mace is usually the 2H go to setup for Shade users in order to not die.
Try dropping a Voidseeker Shard on that Mace and see what your results are. You probably still won't see good results until you grind up 100 prof or so though (gets you a splash range of 3).
Another thing is that for the first few arenas, DW is better than 2H. 2H comes into its own when you're fighting enough enemies that the splash damage can give it more DPR than you'd get from having two weapons and a larger proficiency bonus to damage. Not sure where the breakeven point is, but I'd guess it doesn't really hit its stride until at least Blazing Field (first arena that starts with 4 monster rounds).
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Dec 10 2012, 13:58
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Bonebuster
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Ok thank u. My Main-Set is mixed with 50% lightarmor (shade as u said (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ) that could be a reason why its not working so well with the 2H. This is the only heavy gear im wearing is ^^ Superior Plate Cuirass of DampeningProf. Heavy armor 65.57 Light armor 104.34 cloth armor 55.74 I will try to make a new set with some good heavy armor gear to grind up to at least 100 prof. This post has been edited by Bonebuster: Dec 10 2012, 14:05
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Dec 10 2012, 14:05
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PK678353
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QUOTE(Bonebuster @ Dec 10 2012, 07:58)  Ok thank u. My Main-Set is mixed with 50% lightarmor that could be a reason why its not working so well with the 2H. This is the only heavy piece im wearing ^^ Superior Plate Cuirass of DampeningProf. Heavy armor 65.57 Light armor 104.34 cloth armor 55.74 I will try to make a new wet with some good heavy armor gear to grind up to at least 100 prof. Do you mean you're using mixed light and heavy? Link the gear. You don't generally want to mix armor weights, you don't get any armor proficiency bonuses that way. That's beginning to get significant at 100 prof (2.5% Crit, 7% Resist, 10 Agility).
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