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Yay to godslayer (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Have to do it in Heroic though (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) At least no more instant death (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
I just stated some common knowledge. If you're still in trouble there must be some fundamental wrongs, not "expert" ones. For example, lower the difficulty to normal, and you can pretty much 2-hit everything just circling dark/holy; keep sv and regen up and you don't have to watch out for your hp all the time; remember name of those monsters who killed you/making trouble/... and deal with them first hand (weaken, silence, or outright kill them off first); etc.

Sorry if it sounds offense, but that's all there is. This game can be slow, but it can't be hard.

You got it. And once you have gained that knowledge, you can play the game in higher difficulty again since with every gained level you get stronger, get more credits, more exp....

The big step at lvl200 is the difference in the monsters. However once you have adapted your tactic and maybe upgraded your equipment, you won't have any bigger problems at all. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

This post has been edited by Mantra64: Nov 19 2012, 15:21

I think my spell and armour proficiencies are below par. They are less than half my current level.

I am thinking of loading up all slots with mana potions and going into easy mode to just cast and burn all mana pots to train proficiencies, fleeing once all posts are used. This way it doesn't cost me any stamina ... however will I get banned or any such ting for giving up a lot of free 'kills' to player Custom Monsters?

Do I need to take the time and kill the Custom Monsters first and find a default mob to leave behind to weaken?

I think my spell and armour proficiencies are below par. They are less than half my current level.

I am thinking of loading up all slots with mana potions and going into easy mode to just cast and burn all mana pots to train proficiencies, fleeing once all posts are used. This way it doesn't cost me any stamina ... however will I get banned or any such ting for giving up a lot of free 'kills' to player Custom Monsters?

Do I need to take the time and kill the Custom Monsters first and find a default mob to leave behind to weaken?

Your profs are on par.

They are lagging behind because you are at lower levels, so you level up quicker than your prof.

That will even itself out as your lvling gets slower (while prof lvling speed stays the same).

Just focus on lvls and prof will catch up.



And no, I don't think burning pots like that will get you banned or is in any way forbidden (you can't feed your own monster).
I've done it, and my advice is turn to easy difficulty and use the "restoratives" option outside of combat, that will heal your mana fully, and will use up those otherwise worthless lesser potions, that you don't want to bring into combat anyways because they take up a valuable slot better reserved for a godly one.

And doing so, you won't even need to kill the monsters, easy difficulty should keep you alive.


Just make sure you get a good set of mage armor with lots of wisdom on it (for more mana pool and higher regen) and a staff of focus with 25% mana conservation.

I think my spell and armour proficiencies are below par. They are less than half my current level.

I am thinking of loading up all slots with mana potions and going into easy mode to just cast and burn all mana pots to train proficiencies, fleeing once all posts are used. This way it doesn't cost me any stamina ... however will I get banned or any such ting for giving up a lot of free 'kills' to player Custom Monsters?

Do I need to take the time and kill the Custom Monsters first and find a default mob to leave behind to weaken?

please post your character page, ability screen, and equipment link so we can properly help you. and i can't tell whether you're a mage or melee.
i'll comment about melee only

if you want to grind armor and weapon prof, just enter arena on normal mode. you won't level that fast so your prof can easily catch-up (but i don't think you need to grind prof though). i have ~80 DW prof and ~60 light armor prof due to my slowly approach in this game.

for spell(support, curative, deprecating) grind, when new arena open, do it on normal then increase the difficulty 1 by 1 until you can't go higher. free heal on arena clear means less pot(always remember you spend all your mana at last round though). you can do this step once though.

for more grind, IW a crude anything on IWBTH, use your worst weapon. hit everything and save 1 last monster to spend all your remaining mana. i recommend you get some scavanger training so you'll get more pot drop from arena daily(this way you don't have to buy, and you will need scavanger later on). but don't spend too much, 1st priority should go on having better equips (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Just make sure you get a good set of mage armor with lots of wisdom on it (for more mana pool and higher regen) and a staff of focus with 25% mana conservation.

uh, how do you know whether he/she is a mage?
melee still need to grind deprecating prof(spell)

I think my spell and armour proficiencies are below par. They are less than half my current level.

Do you have any problem killing monsters? If not, then don't grind yet.
If you have any problem, adjust your equip/strategy first. Treat proficiency as your last resort.
And as a mage, just don't aim for BT/IWBTH; your strength is on clearing tons of rounds, not killing on high difficulty.

You may need some deprecating proficiency against gods, but you're still 50 levels away from that.

This post has been edited by varst: Nov 19 2012, 17:37

I think my spell and armour proficiencies are below par. They are less than half my current level.

Wait with grinding proficiencies until you're at least 250+. Most of the ones you actively use should more less have caught up by that point, anyway.

You might get to a point where grinding proficiencies will be more effective than grinding credits for better equipment, but again, that just won't happen until you have a much higher level.

Wait with grinding proficiencies until you're at least 250+. Most of the ones you actively use should more less have caught up by that point, anyway.

You might get to a point where grinding proficiencies will be more effective than grinding credits for better equipment, but again, that just won't happen until you have a much higher level.

Grinding generally dont happen until you are 200lvl and suddenly decide to switch from mage to melee or vice versa

Grinding generally dont happen until you are 200lvl and suddenly decide to switch from mage to melee or vice versa

That's one case and the other is if you're a mage and never use your staff (i.e. don't do schoolgirl arenas on any difficulty that needs ether tap).

That's one case and the other is if you're a mage and never use your staff (i.e. don't do schoolgirl arenas on any difficulty that needs ether tap).

Well....you DO get staff proficiency from casting magic missile...

Well....you DO get staff proficiency from casting magic missile...

But... why would you use that, ever? Finishing off single remaining enemies or something?

But... why would you use that, ever? Finishing off single remaining enemies or something?

Well...pretty much the reason. It's more effective when you're grinding in lower difficulty. You also need MM to proc CM (you may not need ET in schoolgirl arenas, but CM is still a big plus)

Did I am only wierdo here.
My weapon and armor prof. never fall below half of my level since I am under 100.
(except when I switch from dw to 2h)

maybe that explain that why I level up slowly.

One random question here. How do you guys use overcharge ?
Spirit stance + attack/skill until it turns off , spirit stance + rebuff then turn it off, focus for mp, or exclusively use for skill ?

uh, how do you know whether he/she is a mage?
melee still need to grind deprecating prof(spell)

And if you are gonna grind spells, you need a equipment set that allows you to get the most out of your mana.
Even if you are normally a melee.

If you are gonna enter a crystalfest/grindfest just to use up all your mana and then flee out, wearing heavy armor and weapons with high interference is blatantly stupid.
You won't get very much armor prof and no weapon prof (from not attacking) and only half the spell prof (due to twice the mana cost, or possibly even more, depending on gear).

And if you are gonna grind spells, you need a equipment set that allows you to get the most out of your mana.
Even if you are normally a melee.

agreed, and the best for this is battlecaster sword and shield if you want supportive/curative or focus staff for deprecating

edit: and of course cloth armor (or featherweighted)

This post has been edited by nakata545: Nov 19 2012, 19:28

Did I am only wierdo here.
My weapon and armor prof. never fall below half of my level since I am under 100.
(except when I switch from dw to 2h)

maybe that explain that why I level up slowly.

You're not the only one. I felt it wise to maximize proficiencies to minimize the ownage dealt by The Big Five. Well, it could have affected as I never really experienced difficulties after the transition to post-200; mana potion consumption just doubled. =w=;

Though, I wonder what Sky Arc is grinding proficiencies for.

Congrats! Pretty much the same speed as mine (full Power Protection + ethereal Rapier and Axe)

I think Hemidall mages can complete it under 300 turns, care to confirm/dispute the rumor?

300 turns? think in the range of 50 turns on IWBTH. Its a little easier now then when it took 5000 turns to do it.

I did it in 166 turns with dual wield/shade last time, so high-level heimdall mages can probably do it in 30, lol.

I love this thread so much, it breaks my heart when it's not on top. So here's a bump-type question:

Outside of hourlies and arenas, what's the best way to level up quickly? I'm doing IWBTH crude IW with heavy/2h. If I keep protection and haste on always and recast regen together with protection, I've been able to go around 16 deep with no powerup drops, using superior mana pots (of which I have 7). I think I get a good mix of XP and prof doing this, and the odd item drop. No credits but I do all my arenas daily so it's not awful.

Sub-question, I don't have SV but I have a bunch of scrolls of shadow for some reason, should I just sell them since I don't evade anyhow?