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You can't be serious... a Katana have the same stats like a longsword, except acc were it's the katana who have more.

I stand by what I said earlier, except for the slight error that I made.

I said that Katanas have Attack Accuracies comparable to Longswords, but I was wrong -they typically have Attack Accuracies more comparable to Daggers.
Their Attack Multiplier is typically closer to the high values enjoyed by Estocs.
And to elaborate upon what was stated before, their Bleed Damage is not only comparable to that of the best Axes, but they also typically have a high number of Bleed Rounds when they do proc.
And this is before the added bonus of an offhand Wakizashi (which can significantly improve Parry chance in its own right).

In my opinion. they are definitely worth the extra expense, and they are definitely superior as a general rule to Longswords, which I used to use (and love) for a very long time.

I stand by what I said earlier, except for the slight error that I made.

I said that Katanas have Attack Accuracies comparable to Longswords, but I was wrong -they typically have Attack Accuracies more comparable to Daggers.
Their Attack Multiplier is typically closer to the high values enjoyed by Estocs.
And to elaborate upon what was stated before, their Bleed Damage is not only comparable to that of the best Axes, but they also typically have a high number of Bleed Rounds when they do proc.
And this is before the added bonus of an offhand Wakizashi (which can significantly improve Parry chance in its own right).

In my opinion. they are definitely worth the extra expense, and they are definitely superior as a general rule to Longswords, which I used to use (and love) for a very long time.

I went to see cmal's shop after saw the wiki information, and yes katanas have better attack than longswords, I didn't noticed because the difference is minimal at lower levels.
But one note, katanas are rare so looking to longswords before buying a katana is an advice I still do, because not all katanas are good, plus for niten prefer always attack damage over bleed, because the wakizashi will proc a pitiful bleed enough times to screw the katana's bleeding.

I went to see cmal's shop after saw the wiki information, and yes katanas have better attack than longswords, I didn't noticed because the difference is minimal at lower levels.
But one note, katanas are rare so looking to longswords before buying a katana is an advice I still do, because not all katanas are good, plus for niten prefer always attack damage over bleed, because the wakizashi will proc a pitiful bleed enough times to screw the katana's bleeding.

Or do as I do and don't use a Wazit. No more lame bleed hi-jacking. A good Katana is so much better that I don't even look at Longswords any more. Even these two go unused: Fine Prism Longsword of Balance and Fine Ethereal Mithril Longsword of the Ox.

I don't quite get what the big deal about Bleed hijacking is. I rarely see it and it never really matters anyway. Either the mob dies or my main Bleed re-procs or something else that makes it a non-issue. But that could just be me.

The point is, if you have something like this that actually inflicts a decent amount of bleed, you can employ a "fire and forget" strategy. As soon as your main target starts to bleed, you know its fate is sealed and you can move on to something else. The point is that little thought is required beyond mashing buttons and watching for the little icon to appear. This is completely buggered up if you're using Niten because you can no longer guarantee that a bleeding enemy will die.

OMG THAT longsword is sex, sell it to me pretty please ;D?

Katana's rarity alone nullifies any advantages of using it, sure it may be better stats in general than a longsword but how does it compare with a decent or rare longsword? Of course you can always somehow find a rare katana but chances of that are slim which leads to the fact that only high levels can effectively use niten provided they have a decent katana and wakizashi.

Wakizashi should seriously provide a different proc (other than bleeding) as its equiped to improve katana usage and not hinder it, something like pa would be nice (:

This post has been edited by kyouri: Jun 16 2010, 01:34

OMG THAT longsword is sex, sell it to me pretty please ;D?

That's dominotrix II, and I doubt mr. longsword would sell until he finds the dominotrix III

I've got this and still prefer my katana for 2H.

The point is that little thought is required beyond mashing buttons and watching for the little icon to appear. This is completely buggered up if you're using Niten because you can no longer guarantee that a bleeding enemy will die.

That's interesting. Can we request something like a status popup showing that monster will die from bleeding in HV Stat? Or maybe grey out the monster as if the monster died so I don't accidentally click on it again (not really paying attention in cakefest).

I've got this and still prefer my katana for 2H.

Since you're not interested can you sell it?

That's interesting. Can we request something like a status popup showing that monster will die from bleeding in HV Stat? Or maybe grey out the monster as if the monster died so I don't accidentally click on it again (not really paying attention in cakefest).

Easily doable, but its pretty involved (gotta figure out how much damage, how long, and compare it to how much HP the mob has) and not really a good idea (a false sense of security leads to death).

Since you're not interested can you sell it?

I'm keeping it in my private collection for a rainy day.

I've got this and still prefer my katana for 2H.

Show us your katana ;D?

Easily doable, but its pretty involved (gotta figure out how much damage, how long, and compare it to how much HP the mob has)

Glad to hear it. I have absolutely no knowledge of programing. Maybe you have something to get me started?

not really a good idea (a false sense of security leads to death).

Piece of cake-fest. One can always turn the function off.

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=f4bf599ac2

There are people who have better Bleed or slightly more power (a lucky bastard made off with two of hito's throwaways), but mine has a good value for practically every stat.

Wow thats some nice accuracy without balance suffix.

There are people who have better Bleed or slightly more power (a lucky bastard made off with two of hito's throwaways), but mine has a good value for practically every stat.

Why don't you ask him to sell one? The bleed one is pretty darn impressive I must say. Capped proc stats with 380 bleed. Wonder how it was before tenb introduced the cap.

OMG THAT longsword is sex, sell it to me pretty please ;D?

That's dominotrix II, and I doubt mr. longsword would sell until he finds the dominotrix III

This. Don't use it much at the moment actually, but that rainy day could be very wet.

http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=f4bf599ac2

There are people who have better Bleed or slightly more power (a lucky bastard made off with two of hito's throwaways), but mine has a good value for practically every stat.

What he said.

My own Katana serves me pretty damn well......and that one there is as far above my own Katana as my Katana is above my best Longswords (one of them Prism, acquired so very long ago.)

Why don't you ask him to sell one? The bleed one is pretty darn impressive I must say. Capped proc stats with 380 bleed. Wonder how it was before tenb introduced the cap.

The mighty Htokiri is as a Mighty Wyrm, in that he doth possess many wondrous, hidden treasures that he shall use nevermore and which can make a man like unto a God; but he shalt not sell them lest other men gain to themselves the power to storm the heavens singlehandedly!!.

The mighty Htokiri is as a Mighty Wyrm, in that he doth possess many wondrous, hidden treasures that he shall use nevermore and which can make a man like unto a God; but he shalt not sell them lest other men gain to themselves the power to storm the heavens singlehandedly!!.

Kind of awkward to tell you this after you made such a melodramatic speech, but the word "throwaway" means that hito threw it away, and therefore, someone, not cmal though, has bought it.

Edit: when I say him, I don't mean hito. I mean the person who hito sold it to.

This post has been edited by Golden Sun: Jun 16 2010, 03:21

Why don't you ask him to sell one? The bleed one is pretty darn impressive I must say. Capped proc stats with 380 bleed. Wonder how it was before tenb introduced the cap.

Because he already sold it, and if you didn't noticed yet, he isn't playing HV for now