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May 19 2012, 03:43
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Mercurius.H
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How does Scroll of Absorption work? According to wiki, it suppose to 100% absorb a magical or spirit attack and partially convert to MP, but I tried it when fighting FSM and failed. [ i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/XMHZv.png[ i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/BRaWS.pngnote that just before I was blown out, I renewed the scroll. Is it a bug or I do it wrong? This post has been edited by Mercurius.H: May 19 2012, 03:44
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May 19 2012, 04:01
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ChosenUno
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I also tried the same thing, and it didn't work.
Weird. I'm pretty sure schoolgirl's specials count as magical attacks, no?
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May 19 2012, 04:08
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buktore
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Critical ignore Absorb.
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May 19 2012, 04:15
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Mercurius.H
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QUOTE(buktore @ May 19 2012, 10:08)  Critical ignore Absorb.
In the first pic, it was not crit I guess.
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May 19 2012, 04:24
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n125
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Why not just cast Silence and Weaken? It would prevent FSM from using magic and spirit attacks, as well as considerably weaken its regular attack.
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May 19 2012, 04:25
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buktore
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Emphasis added: QUOTE(1st pic) 150 6 Flying Spaghetti Monster uses Sudden Outbreak of Common Sense This is a physical attack, so absorb won't work here. QUOTE(2nd pic) 175 4 Flying Spaghetti Monster casts Puff of Logic This is a magical attack, so it will work here. But as I said before... This post has been edited by buktore: May 19 2012, 04:26
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May 19 2012, 04:28
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Kaosumx
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What I wanna know is why you don't have either spirit shield or spark of life up.
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May 19 2012, 04:32
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Mercurius.H
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QUOTE(buktore @ May 19 2012, 10:25)  Emphasis added: This is a physical attack, so absorb won't work here. This is a magical attack, so it will work here. But as I said before...
Got it, thanks. Just another question: does Weaken in current version prevent magical attacks being critical? This post has been edited by Mercurius.H: May 19 2012, 04:33
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May 19 2012, 04:34
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Kaosumx
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QUOTE(Mercurius.H @ May 18 2012, 22:32)  Got it, thanks.
Just another question: does Weaken in current version prevent magical attacks being critical?
Yes it does prevent crit.
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May 19 2012, 04:39
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Mercurius.H
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QUOTE(Kaosumx @ May 19 2012, 10:28)  What I wanna know is why you don't have either spirit shield or spark of life up.
Actually I'm trying another strat. if it works I can get some mana back, which is helpful for a long run. It's very spirit consuming for Spirit Shield against skills, so I wonder if absorb could help. When I cast SS with Scroll of Absorption, it turns out that SS has priority to proc. So I use Absorption only.
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May 19 2012, 04:43
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varst
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As n125 have said, if you worry about the spirit consumption, use silence + weaken instead.
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May 19 2012, 04:47
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hzqr
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How many points do you have in Spirit Tanks? 353 SP seems kinda low.
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May 19 2012, 04:50
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Kaosumx
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QUOTE(Mercurius.H @ May 18 2012, 22:39)  Actually I'm trying another strat. if it works I can get some mana back, which is helpful for a long run.
It's very spirit consuming for Spirit Shield against skills, so I wonder if absorb could help. When I cast SS with Scroll of Absorption, it turns out that SS has priority to proc. So I use Absorption only.
You should have used weaken instead of imperil then if your trying to conserve spirit. That way Puff of Logic can't crit so you can absorb it, and its nearly impossible for Sudden Outbreak of Common Sense to one shot you then. Also, looks like your using a non-ethe club for MH. I'd try to change to any void weapon, since FSM is resistant or impervious to anything except holy or void. Your damage output for skills and such is cut in half thanks to that, and infusions aren't nearly as useful for that as they used to be. EDIT - Don't forget the blind from Iris Strike will cause curse weaving to kick in if you try to put on silence and weaken. This post has been edited by Kaosumx: May 19 2012, 04:51
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May 19 2012, 04:50
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rpgman1
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I was thinking about tackling FSM for the 1st time. Is it possible at my level, even though I don't have SS (I do have SoL though)?
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May 19 2012, 04:53
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Kaosumx
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QUOTE(Tiap @ May 18 2012, 22:47)  How many points do you have in Spirit Tanks? 353 SP seems kinda low.
It does look like he has a decent amount of points in OC tanks though, which requires a maxed SP tank. Really weird how low it is though.
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May 19 2012, 05:01
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Mercurius.H
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QUOTE(varst @ May 19 2012, 10:43)  As n125 have said, if you worry about the spirit consumption, use silence + weaken instead.
I guess as for the curse weaving mechanism, you have to abandon DW skills to use silence + weaken, if your deprecating proficiency is not high enough.
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May 19 2012, 05:01
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varst
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QUOTE(rpgman1 @ May 19 2012, 10:50)  I was thinking about tackling FSM for the 1st time. Is it possible at my level, even though I don't have SS (I do have SoL though)?
Silence and weaken should be a good combo. Also, as Kaosumx have said, use an void weapon. QUOTE(Kaosumx @ May 19 2012, 10:53)  It does look like he has a decent amount of points in OC tanks though, which requires a maxed SP tank. Really weird how low it is though.
Should be around 150-160OC judging from his OC bar length. I guess he has about 150~160 OC, which translate to 50% more SP from tanks. QUOTE(Mercurius.H @ May 19 2012, 11:01)  I guess as for the curse weaving mechanism, you have to abandon DW skills to use silence + weaken, if your deprecating proficiency is not high enough.
Train some deprecating prof. then. It looks like a suicide mission if you don't use SP shield/Spark or silence. Using scroll is okay for first kill, but as a re-do it probably don't worth it. This post has been edited by varst: May 19 2012, 05:04
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May 19 2012, 05:16
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rpgman1
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QUOTE(varst @ May 18 2012, 23:01)  Silence and weaken should be a good combo. Also, as Kaosumx have said, use an void weapon.
Okay, someone gave me a Fine Ethereal Willow Staff of Destruction, but it isn't as good as my Superior Redwood Staff of Destruction. The void damage is much higher though (177 void vs. 100 crushing) and deprecating prof is much higher (32 vs. 14).
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May 19 2012, 05:23
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Kaosumx
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QUOTE(rpgman1 @ May 18 2012, 23:16)  Okay, someone gave me a Fine Ethereal Willow Staff of Destruction, but it isn't as good as my Superior Redwood Staff of Destruction. The void damage is much higher though (177 void vs. 100 crushing) and deprecating prof is much higher (32 vs. 14).
-.- Void weapon is only for melee. If your mage, just use holy spells.
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May 19 2012, 05:26
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varst
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QUOTE(rpgman1 @ May 19 2012, 11:16)  Okay, someone gave me a Fine Ethereal Willow Staff of Destruction, but it isn't as good as my Superior Redwood Staff of Destruction. The void damage is much higher though (177 void vs. 100 crushing) and deprecating prof is much higher (32 vs. 14).
Wait, if you're a mage then it doesn't matter (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Use the one which gives you the best MDB and EDB; either use heimdall or destruction staff. Then start spamming banish on FSM, if you don't have enough mana then ET some from FSM (which also mean ET chance/duration of your staff is somewhat important). As for armor, wear full heimdall/heaven-sent. With silence, weaken, and spark, it should be pretty safe.
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