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There have been quite a few on sale for less than 1 mil. I've seen low level ones with better stats sold for less than 300k, and I've seen good ones in the 200 range sold for 600k-1mil.

1. Only after the shards were added.
2. Non-Slaughter maces are much cheaper.

Only best ones sell for more than one mil. The problem with hito's mace imo is that it's doesn't really have any appeal. The level is uselessly high. Anyone that needs a lvl 355 mace should have a better one, or can afford to buy a better one. The damage isn't bad, but its not special either. The only thing that's good about it is the stun chance, but I wouldn't pay premium just for that because critical strikes proc stun anyways. It just doesn't have much appeal to it that makes it worth than 1 mil.

You just can't use it right or never use one.

Nobody does IW? Tell that to 4EverLost, who I swear goes through 2000+ rounds of it a day. I'm going through item world regularly for stuff I want to level too.

4EL do it for money. And you...I did IW regurarly too when I was on your level. But now I'm sick of it already, and you'll be too soon.

EDIT - Of course, in the end, if hito puts that up for auction, I bet it will sell for more than 1 mil anyways >.> people jump for ethe maces of slaughter. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Meh... I'm not so obsessed with Slaughter suffix. Some guys say my current mace is crap, but I think it's better than slaughter ones.

I have a question regarding mages and their spells. I've often seen Heimdall mage clothes as the priciest so far. Is there something special about holy magic? Also since most mages take massive damage because they wear clothes, spells like weaken, protection, shadow veil, haste and spark of life are the best choices I'm guessing?
Was wondering if there is a good way to maximize the spark of life effect. I've maxed it out, but what would be considered a good time to put it to use? I don't want to cast it at the start of every battle and recast when it expires because the amount of mana cost is pretty costly.
This last onemight be a stupid question, but I haven't been able to find anywhere. Most items I buy from players or bazaar usually have the (+) bonus next to the items. I've always wondered how those are obtained since all the items I've gotten from drops does not have any of those bonus like (+3.41) for example. Are they usually associated with bonuses you get through item world leveling or is it just something that is found later on?

1. Heimdall and fenrir are expansive because they're more useful at higher levels. Holy/dark spells are mana-intensive, but they deal more damage than elementals when used properly.
As for spells...
shadow veil (SV) and haste are the best supportive combo.(for mages) Protection's not good because it only increases mitigation from armor.
Weaken can be good at lower level, but nerf (lv.150) is a better choice.
Spark is good, and SP shield (lv.190) is also good.

2. Spark is usually casted with channeling because of the mana cost. You also get +50% duration from channeling's effect.

3. (+3.41) is called level scaling. It means the actual modifier you can have at your level.
For example, this adds 898 weapon damage to your character at lv. 304. However, since your level is lower than 304, the stat will be scaled down to your current level (around 355.) Note that burden and interference are not scaled down.
You can't find that on your drops because your drops' level will always be lower than your current level.

This post has been edited by varst: Apr 26 2012, 08:22

I have a question regarding mages and their spells. I've often seen Heimdall mage clothes as the priciest so far. Is there something special about holy magic? Also since most mages take massive damage because they wear clothes, spells like weaken, protection, shadow veil, haste and spark of life are the best choices I'm guessing?
Was wondering if there is a good way to maximize the spark of life effect. I've maxed it out, but what would be considered a good time to put it to use? I don't want to cast it at the start of every battle and recast when it expires because the amount of mana cost is pretty costly.
This last onemight be a stupid question, but I haven't been able to find anywhere. Most items I buy from players or bazaar usually have the (+) bonus next to the items. I've always wondered how those are obtained since all the items I've gotten from drops does not have any of those bonus like (+3.41) for example. Are they usually associated with bonuses you get through item world leveling or is it just something that is found later on?

Holy/Dark magic deals more damage to most monsters, but also consumes more mana.
Weaken and protection are not crucial to a mage, while the other 3 you've mentioned are pretty much important.
If you are playing in a mode that mobs can never one-shot you, you don't need SoL. If they can, then you can never know when that happens -> it's better to keep it on at all times. When you get higher supportive profs, its duration will also be longer -> less mana-costly.
That +bonus is the actual stat applied to you, due to level scaling. For example if it displays like this

Attack Accuracy Bonus + 22.54 % (+ 22.04) %

That means you only profit from 22.04 accuracy bonus, not the whole 22.54, because the equip's level is higher than you. It will be the whole stat when your level is >= the equip's level, which applies to your drops (you'll never have drops that are higher than your level)

ahhh freaking ninja'ed... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

This post has been edited by LangTuTaiHoa: Apr 26 2012, 08:26

so, I haven't gotten a single hourly battle today...anyone else having that problem?

I just finished one, haven't had problems earlier either.

Wondering whether Turtle or Slaughter Gear is worth anything at a higher level. I'm of the mind the ones I find aren't useful unless used by me. As I don't imagine there is really a market for people my level. That and I tend to view anything with less than a high WDB or Superior prefix as not useful half the time. If you aren't killing in 1-2 hits on normal you aren't doing it right. And Nightmare/Hell 2-3 hits. My Base damage output is 540-650 (Depending on gear). + that 25% damage output increase from high stamina. So I kill most things right away.

Refering to these pieces of equipment.

Fine Plate Sabatons of the Turtle
Average Power Boots of Slaughter

Power armor of slaughter worths a lot at higher level. Turtle armor doesn't worth that much.
Equips with better suffix would have better stats in general, but most of the time it still depends on a few stats to determine if an equip is really that useful.

This post has been edited by varst: Apr 26 2012, 15:23

1. Only after the shards were added.
2. Non-Slaughter maces are much cheaper.

1. The cheapest ones were all before shards were added. I've also seen only a minimum price drop in ethe weapons, mainly because voidseekers are too rare for people without a decent harem of monsters.
2. I'll give you that.

You just can't use it right or never use one.

Not sure what you mean by that. I've been using a mace for about 150 levels now? Anyways I'm just saying that mace doesn't anything special about it as an ethe mace other than its level.

4EL do it for money. And you...I did IW regurarly too when I was on your level. But now I'm sick of it already, and you'll be too soon.

Nope, because I'm already sick of it but do it anyways. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Meh... I'm not so obsessed with Slaughter suffix. Some guys say my current mace is crap, but I think it's better than slaughter ones.

Yeah, thats a nice mace, and it IS better than some of the slaughter ones out there. But why are you disagreeing with me even on this?

1. The cheapest ones were all before shards were added. I've also seen only a minimum price drop in ethe weapons, mainly because voidseekers are too rare for people without a decent harem of monsters.
2. I'll give you that.
Not sure what you mean by that. I've been using a mace for about 150 levels now? Anyways I'm just saying that mace doesn't anything special about it as an ethe mace other than its level.
Nope, because I'm already sick of it but do it anyways. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
Yeah, thats a nice mace, and it IS better than some of the slaughter ones out there. But why are you disagreeing with me even on this?

Forum Troll, special: Evil Scorpio (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Trolling aside, normal maces are just super duper slow ~_~. Too many giants and dragonkins. It can take 5-6 turns to kill a giant with a non-eth mace.

This post has been edited by ChosenUno: Apr 26 2012, 16:20

The cheapest ones were all before shards were added. I've also seen only a minimum price drop in ethe weapons, mainly because voidseekers are too rare for people without a decent harem of monsters.

You can buy Voidseeker for a price from 5k to 10k depending on the dealer (for realz, yo). So it's not that hard. And anybody (except the loonies who clear thousands of rounds everyday) need like one or two shards at max per day.

Not sure what you mean by that. I've been using a mace for about 150 levels now? Anyways I'm just saying that mace doesn't anything special about it as an ethe mace other than its level.

It's an ethereal mace of slaughter. As you could see for some people here it's special enough already. I don't give a crap about slaughter, but that's me - and I'm a "tank" type of player, so I appreciate defense boost more than attack boost.

Nope, because I'm already sick of it but do it anyways. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

That means you're not really sick of it yet. When you'll prefer to spend money buying materials to upgrade equipment level through Forge than do it yourself in IW - that's when you really sick of it.

Yeah, thats a nice mace, and it IS better than some of the slaughter ones out there. But why are you disagreeing with me even on this?

Nah, I'm agree with you on that point: slaughter sufix is overrated.

So I have gotten quite a few lvls since I was last here and I was wondering how I am doing? I can usually make it to round 13ish in a IWBTH grind now which is better then the 3-4 I could do before. Just looking for some pointers is all.

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So I have gotten quite a few lvls since I was last here and I was wondering how I am doing? I can usually make it to round 13ish in a IWBTH grind now which is better then the 3-4 I could do before. Just looking for some pointers is all.

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Abilities


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Training

You can afford to drop WIS by slight amount, but not too low, since you may not have too much mana problem, especially when mana potions are easy to get. You can increase STR and END.

Consider reallocate ability points from exp tank and into somewhere else, such as spirit tank. Get Haste, it makes a difference between the monsters gang-rape you twice every round and occasionally twice per round, especially at higher level.

Try to keep upgrade into better Power Armors, your current equipment may be fine, but will soon become obsolete if you level too quickly.

As for trainer, Refined Aura, Pack Rat, and Adept Learner (around ~100) are quite good for the value. You may also consider Ability Boost, but you might not need it until 150 or so.

Pretty much it is obvious you already knew what you are doing, just stay that way.

How would haste help a bleeding strategy? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

How would haste help a bleeding strategy? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

It depends, if monsters can gang-rape him twice before he could land a hit, then haste may or may not help a bit.

At his current level and weapon prof, bleeding damage dont do any higher damage than a bare hand damage. Survival is top priority until at least he get SoL or SS, then he can drop Haste into the oblivion

Survival is top priority until at least he get SoL or SS, then he can drop Haste into the oblivion

Haste becomes increasingly more important the higher level you get, SoL and SS notwithstanding.

Haste doesn't hurt a bleeding strategy, you get more normal hits per monster hits, with the same amount of bleed damage. Just more mana drain from buffs

Haste doesn't hurt a bleeding strategy, you get more normal hits per monster hits, with the same amount of bleed damage. Just more mana drain from buffs

Not to mention you can apply BW on more monsters per monster turn.

Do Exp modifers hurt you in HV? Because I thought about it and it seems to me it just in the end stabs you in the back giving you less chance to raise proficiencies. If I count all my exp tanks and training I have an exp rate of 110%+ or so. Not directly but still a decent bonus and it seems counter productive if proficiency is at all important. The less things you gotta kill sure but that also just seems kinda bad from a lot of different viewpoints. Drops, proficiency training, etc. The less of X you do the less you would be getting out of it.

Leveling too fast is only a problem if you can't compensate for 2 things:

1. gear - if your just using your drops, reaching level 100 will become a problem when the monster HP scaling kicks in.
2. prof - if you don't have a high enough prof in certain things, you will instantly be deprived of special skills or damage.

Why don't I EVER get tokens of Blood? No matter what difficulty I do my daily arenas, I NEVER get get them... I have gone 5 whole levels without getting a single 1 which is really annoying since I can't even a can't even attempt the lvl 75 ROB stuff that i have unlocked 5 levels ago =.= Is there an easier war to get the tokens?