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I need some advice, everytime I encounter a legendary, they screw me... most of the time I am close to defeating them, but in the end it´s always a waste of my precious potions and scrolls.
I am a MAGE level 39 (Lightninstorm/Inferno + Weaken+ Poison + Shield + Cure) All fully upgraded.

Here my stats:
STR 14
DEX 21
AGI 33
END 36
INT 45
WIS 39

Is there a mage around, who could give me some pointers on how to beat a legendary?

This post has been edited by HybridGuardian: Apr 29 2010, 15:06

I need some advice, everytime I encounter a legendary, they screw me... most of the time I am close to defeating them, but in the end it´s always a waste of my precious potions and scrolls.
I am a MAGE level 39 (Lightninstorm/Inferno + Weaken+ Poison + Shield + Cure) All fully upgraded.

Here my stats:
STR 14
DEX 21
AGI 33
INT 45
WIS 39

Is there a high level mage around, who could give me some pointers on how to beat a legendary?

First you don't show END but it doesn't matter for mages you should balance the stats, in other words stop investing on INT, and more in STR, plus a additional info: the HP curative spells recover don't depends on the magic rating only on the curative prof and base HP, which is depend on END and STR lol.

I assume you read Wiki first.
They're a problem because you don't have higher tiers, and also that's why it's recommended to go melee character in the lower levels.
Simply weaken and poison them, cure when needed, cast magic missile to get CM, and cast the spell they're weak for.
As for items if you don't know yet, don't use HP restoratives only MP ones, since they can provide more HP with the additional casts of cure.


If you're already doing that, well you have 2 choices: (if you really hate being melee character)
-Continue your way of playing and run away when you see one boss.
-Switch to battecaster for a while until you got higher tiers of magic, using a high parry dagger on the offhand, and a high proc chance with the most turns possible of PA.
Why since you lose CM and have to hit then until PA procs? Because you have a little protection from parry, and more importantly PA+AoE spell = MASSIVE DAMAGE.
That way you can kill these guys much easier.

Edit: Almost forgot PA+Spirit Attack when the overcharge is full also = MASSIVE DAMAGE.

This post has been edited by cmdct: Apr 29 2010, 15:07

Thanks, I´ll up my STR and AGI then + switch from staff to dagger. Oh and my END is 36.

edit: and it´s Boss of course, cant battle legendaries yet... sorry I´ve mixed that up.. AHH the Bestiary THX didn´t know we have one on wiki!

This post has been edited by HybridGuardian: Apr 29 2010, 15:08

Thanks, I´ll up my STR and AGI then + switch from staff to dagger. Oh and my END is 36.

edit: and it´s Boss of course, cant battle legendaries yet... sorry I´ve mixed that up..

Sorry but it looks like I forgot to type: on the main-hand it's a rapier (with the PA)

Mmmmh , I thought about....I´ll try to stay pure MAGE and choose to run away, cmdct... I just figured that it might be useful to concentrate now and collect the reward later! Afterall I fry Mobs with an outstanding power at the moment. It usually takes me 2-3 shot´s to kill all mobs. (Especially cool when there are 10 of em!)



This post has been edited by HybridGuardian: Apr 29 2010, 15:18

@buktore:

Yes a lot of data, but for what? Just to know if we can have +10% evade at level 200? That's is just a curiosity, not really important. What is really important is know what is good or not, because what matters is to be able to clear anything without much trouble. If there's better than ok it's better, and lucky the one who got it. That's called a upgrade, and make one happier, just it.
Think about it a little, if the top evade of a pants is above 1% of pants, that makes your pants a crap? No, it just mean some guy got a piece superior to yours, but yours is still very good.

What are you talking about? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

I need some advice for higher level arenas.

I was barley able to clear fresh meat on my last potion.
Endgame has 11 more rounds and I have to do it in a few weeks.
Dunno How a sword/shield player like me could do it. Regen cant keep up with the insane damage they do and healing burns my mana way too fast.

I need some advice for higher level arenas.

I was barley able to clear fresh meat on my last potion.
Endgame has 11 more rounds and I have to do it in a few weeks.
Dunno How a sword/shield player like me could do it. Regen cant keep up with the insane damage they do and healing burns my mana way too fast.

don't worry for that, I also clear fresh meat when level 70. try cast weaken to some monster that you think has a high damage(that's for me), and in level 90, and 100, you'll get absorb, X-attack, and Cure II. that abilities will make you finish arena challenge easily.(just bring mana potion when arena challenge)

reference : see this.

Mmmmh , I thought about....I´ll try to stay pure MAGE and choose to run away, cmdct... I just figured that it might be useful to concentrate now and collect the reward later! Afterall I fry Mobs with an outstanding power at the moment. It usually takes me 2-3 shot´s to kill all mobs. (Especially cool when there are 10 of em!)

That's your call, but if ever want to take the C bonus at level 50 from RoB, you know how to do it now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
and don't worry, someday they will be easy to kill (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

What are you talking about? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

I'm talking, that it takes much effort, just for curiosity, and if Tenb decides to move the ranges again in a next HV version, it become a completely waste of effort.

I need some advice for higher level arenas.

I was barley able to clear fresh meat on my last potion.
Endgame has 11 more rounds and I have to do it in a few weeks.
Dunno How a sword/shield player like me could do it. Regen cant keep up with the insane damage they do and healing burns my mana way too fast.

Don't worry with EndGame X-Attack at level 90 will change the rules, you'll see a great improvement.
After that if you still have problems make a post again for help.
Another thing you didn't show how your primary attributes are distributed, but for melee characters raise STR/DEX/AGI/END to your level and leave INT/WIS behind, but don't worry they will catch up to your level soon.

I'm talking, that it takes much effort, just for curiosity, and if Tenb decides to move the ranges again in a next HV version, it become a completely waste of effort.

Hmm.. good point.

But the reasons I want to know were not exactly out of pure curiosity. for example, Currently I have no idea what is a good silk shoe since I don't see much of it post in here (most of them are phase) this kind of in formation is crucial when you are trying to buy things or upgrade.

Then again, I shouldn't post this kind of question in this thread (kinda slip since I saw people talking about it) so I will stop here.

Hmm.. good point.

But the reasons I want to know were not exactly out of pure curiosity. for example, Currently I have no idea what is a good silk shoe since I don't see much of it post in here (most of them are phase) this kind of in formation is crucial when you are trying to buy things or upgrade.

This are good Shoes, you can still find better of course.

cast magic missile to get CM

Magic missile can get cm?

Magic missile can get cm?

yes, the only thing that don't do is to increase Elemental proficiency, although the damage is still affected by it.

Hi. Alright I have this
Fine Ethereal Steel Dagger of the Cheetah
Weapon Damage Type Soul
Attack Damage Multiplier + 9.36 %
Attack Accuracy Bonus + 24.24 %
Attack Critical Bonus + 3.51 %
Parry Chance + 7.88 %
Primary Attribute Bonuses
Dexterity + 0.90 Agility + 5.10
Hit Proc: 20% chance for Bleeding Wound
Duration: 3 turns / Damage: 34 per tick

Level 90 / Slot: 1handed / Type: One-handed weapon

and I was wondering if there is really a point to leveling it anymore. I see that Real Life has a weakness to soul, but is that the only god that it's useful against? I don't use them against the bosses since it's unnecessary, but other then that, is there a point to an eth item?

Hi. Alright I have this
Fine Ethereal Steel Dagger of the Cheetah
Weapon Damage Type Soul
Attack Damage Multiplier + 9.36 %
Attack Accuracy Bonus + 24.24 %
Attack Critical Bonus + 3.51 %
Parry Chance + 7.88 %
Primary Attribute Bonuses
Dexterity + 0.90 Agility + 5.10
Hit Proc: 20% chance for Bleeding Wound
Duration: 3 turns / Damage: 34 per tick

Level 90 / Slot: 1handed / Type: One-handed weapon

and I was wondering if there is really a point to leveling it anymore. I see that Real Life has a weakness to soul, but is that the only god that it's useful against? I don't use them against the bosses since it's unnecessary, but other then that, is there a point to an eth item?

If Ethereal rapier, that'll more useful. even though RL weak with soul, the damage that'll be taken to RL is same like with normal equip(I guess, cuz I'm still far for challenge the Gods).

Hi. Alright I have this
Fine Ethereal Steel Dagger of the Cheetah
Weapon Damage Type Soul
Attack Damage Multiplier + 9.36 %
Attack Accuracy Bonus + 24.24 %
Attack Critical Bonus + 3.51 %
Parry Chance + 7.88 %
Primary Attribute Bonuses
Dexterity + 0.90 Agility + 5.10
Hit Proc: 20% chance for Bleeding Wound
Duration: 3 turns / Damage: 34 per tick

Level 90 / Slot: 1handed / Type: One-handed weapon

and I was wondering if there is really a point to leveling it anymore. I see that Real Life has a weakness to soul, but is that the only god that it's useful against? I don't use them against the bosses since it's unnecessary, but other then that

Not completely, if you have SP+OC maxed out, Heartseeker, and DW with a massive damage off-hand weapon (like an axe), but you become wide open without parry bonus or block.

is there a point to an eth item?

I think in the beginning normal mobs were also weak to soul, so Ethereal were efective to use in that time.
Nowadays it's more to collection, like someone can keep a old swordchucks with the -INT bonus.

If Ethereal rapier, that'll more useful. even though RL weak with soul, the damage that'll be taken to RL is same like with normal equip(I guess, cuz I'm still far for challenge the Gods).

Nope only Ethereal rapier or estoc, at level 100 without PA the damage is below ~100 points(100 OC), and a good bleeding axe can make ~270-300 damage per tick.

This post has been edited by cmdct: Apr 30 2010, 19:53

Use the same tactic Sayo described when he killed FSM (except the banish part because you don't need it) in here

I had read Sayo's post, and wonder why not use Silence instead of Bewilder, Absorb, Spark of Life to deal with Puff of Logic (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

I had read Sayo's post, and wonder why not use Silence instead of Bewilder, Absorb, Spark of Life to deal with Puff of Logic (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

I easy to talk when you have +80 holy mitigation and IA and more than 8 item slots.
You used 10 elixirs to beat IPU right?
Sayo with 66.1% holy mitigation and no IA, used 8 elixirs.
You can see here the post:

That's quite a difference?
Reason? No need to cast cure at all.

But I did try silence with FSM first, but it won't work (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
FSM gives more damage, is faster, and have more HP than IPU, and I think also crits a little more.
In other words, you're gonna cast cure a lot times since regen can't keep up at all the damage, and I think even with 80% dark mitigation is not enough.
I spent 12 mana elixirs, still ~5% HP remained, and more importantly FSM was 5 levels below mine, meaning was weakest possible to engage.

This post has been edited by cmdct: Apr 30 2010, 22:55

This are good Shoes, you can still find better of course.

Hmm.. so shoes seem to have much lower overall stats compared to caps than I thought.

Thanks, that's a good example (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I had tried IPU before lvl 110, with Sayo strategy, but not had enough mana. So I wait till getting silence (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)
And now FSM with silence, and not enough mana (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Well next time I'll try without silence then.