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Mar 5 2012, 17:41
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radioactive28
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Is there some way to handle the magic attack from the legendaries, i.e., take it like a man and still live to claim the trophy?
Just got my ass handed to me by Konata. I was dual-wielding daggers with 33% parry and 8% evade, wearing a mix of leathers/kevlars/shade. Had Shadow Veil and Haste active too.
Managed to evade/parry most of her attacks, but all it took was a single Timotei which cleared 1100 of my 1300 HP.
Or did I try too early for my level?
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Mar 5 2012, 17:44
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Dynellen
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Until you get spark of life from abilities you'll need to get the effect from scrolls. Going to ring of blood without it is just asking to die since the monsters' special attacks WILL oneshot you in pretty much any difficulty.
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Mar 5 2012, 17:48
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varst
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QUOTE(radioactive28 @ Mar 5 2012, 23:41)  Is there some way to handle the magic attack from the legendaries, i.e., take it like a man and still live to claim the trophy?
Just got my ass handed to me by Konata. I was dual-wielding daggers with 33% parry and 8% evade, wearing a mix of leathers/kevlars/shade. Had Shadow Veil and Haste active too.
Managed to evade/parry most of her attacks, but all it took was a single Timotei which cleared 1100 of my 1300 HP.
Or did I try too early for my level?
ROB suggestions: 1. Get a club/axe with high damage on MH. 2. Use holy/dark infusions (except konata, which you should use wind infusion) 3. Use some scrolls to stop the SP/MP attacks from killing you. Scroll of absorption + bewilder, or scroll of life. 4. Used poison/weaken to slow down SP/MP regen rate and decrease legend's damage?
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Mar 5 2012, 17:48
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Oversoul
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@varst
I read through your user talk page, honestly, it's more useful to me than HV advise page. Hopefully, you'll complete it soon. Let this be an encouragement :3
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Mar 5 2012, 17:58
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Kaosumx
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QUOTE(radioactive28 @ Mar 5 2012, 10:41)  Is there some way to handle the magic attack from the legendaries, i.e., take it like a man and still live to claim the trophy?
Just got my ass handed to me by Konata. I was dual-wielding daggers with 33% parry and 8% evade, wearing a mix of leathers/kevlars/shade. Had Shadow Veil and Haste active too.
Managed to evade/parry most of her attacks, but all it took was a single Timotei which cleared 1100 of my 1300 HP.
Or did I try too early for my level?
Definitely need SoL. I had cleared Konata on Hard actually when I saved up 2 tokens at lvl 80, but then Mikuru owned me with a single time quake dealing over 3000 damage when I only have 1900 hp at lvl 90. Otherwise use scrolls and infusions. Luck isn't gonna cut it. EDIT - Yeah that talk page is really nice. Wish I found it sooner. This post has been edited by Kaosumx: Mar 5 2012, 18:02
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Mar 5 2012, 18:07
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radioactive28
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Ouch. I had the wind infusion active, but guess I should be putting a few APs to deprecating spells and buying some scrolls. Thanks everyone.
EDIT: That talk page is like half the advice section hidden away -.-
This post has been edited by radioactive28: Mar 5 2012, 18:12
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Mar 5 2012, 18:32
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Kaosumx
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QUOTE(radioactive28 @ Mar 5 2012, 11:07)  Ouch. I had the wind infusion active, but guess I should be putting a few APs to deprecating spells and buying some scrolls. Thanks everyone.
EDIT: That talk page is like half the advice section hidden away -.-
Well since I'm looking intro transitioning into mage, it helps alot. And the advice page doesn't explain the reasoning behind training or spells anyways. And yeah over 3k damage and it wasn't even a crit. She was almost dead too and I was rolling with a DW ethereal axe + rapier combo and had iris striked her so she hit me like 1/5 attacks.
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Mar 5 2012, 18:42
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smilejb
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Hey, when is a good time for using magic missle? I try to use it all the time when i have just one critter left on iwbth But I was thinking for more normal play. Like is it really just one aoe spell and then magic missle everything? Basically, for normal I don't want the chance for them to hit me so if there are 3 or more critters out there I'll use an aoe spell. 2 or less then I'll magic missle. Unless its taking forever because they are resistant to piercing. Then I scan and cast whatver they are weak against.
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Mar 5 2012, 18:46
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LangTuTaiHoa
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QUOTE(smilejb @ Mar 5 2012, 23:42)  Hey, when is a good time for using magic missle? I try to use it all the time when i have just one critter left on iwbth But I was thinking for more normal play. Like is it really just one aoe spell and then magic missle everything? Basically, for normal I don't want the chance for them to hit me so if there are 3 or more critters out there I'll use an aoe spell. 2 or less then I'll magic missle. Unless its taking forever because they are resistant to piercing. Then I scan and cast whatver they are weak against.
For me the only time to use magic missile is when you already AoE the whole mob and only one still stand, with less than 50% HP. If >= 2 I will use a lower tier AoE, if more than 50% HP I'll use a single target element.
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Mar 5 2012, 19:02
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smilejb
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I used to do it something like that but my staff prof is still ridiculous. 18.24.
I don't bother with magic missle during the hourlies though. Always set on iwbth and it would suck if I lost with one critter left because I got cocky.
Also does arcane focus work with magic missle? I would assume so but just want to make sure.
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Mar 5 2012, 19:12
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LangTuTaiHoa
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QUOTE(smilejb @ Mar 6 2012, 00:02)  I used to do it something like that but my staff prof is still ridiculous. 18.24.
I don't bother with magic missle during the hourlies though. Always set on iwbth and it would suck if I lost with one critter left because I got cocky.
Also does arcane focus work with magic missle? I would assume so but just want to make sure.
Yes it does, at least on the accuracy part.
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Mar 5 2012, 19:18
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varst
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Also on the damage part, nobody cares about that though.
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Mar 5 2012, 20:43
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JamesCID
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QUOTE(smilejb @ Mar 5 2012, 11:02)  I used to do it something like that but my staff prof is still ridiculous. 18.24.
I wouldn't worry about having low staff prof, once you start farming gods and go through schoolgirls arenas you'll get tons of it, specially in the later if you are being frugal on mana pots, you basically go through 52~ schoolgirls ETing like a madman
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Mar 5 2012, 22:22
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queriel
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what does spiritual proficiency do? is it affect soul magic damage or spirit mode or was it just from the old "spirit attack" thing? the wiki only says how to calculate, not its use.
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Mar 5 2012, 22:27
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Maximum_Joe
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QUOTE(queriel @ Mar 5 2012, 12:22)  is it affect soul magic damage
Yes.
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Mar 6 2012, 00:51
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queriel
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thanks
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Mar 6 2012, 02:02
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eramosat
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I am starting my exploration of maging...level 130 attained with arcane focus just recently.
I am going hunting for better gear, with a focus for now on elemental spells and MDB. MDB is still the most important stat, right?
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Mar 6 2012, 02:09
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queriel
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QUOTE(eramosat @ Mar 5 2012, 16:02)  I am starting my exploration of maging...level 130 attained with arcane focus just recently.
I am going hunting for better gear, with a focus for now on elemental spells and MDB. MDB is still the most important stat, right?
if i'm not mistaken, edb is better than mdb because it increases damage multiplicatively (quite new to english so not sure at all if that was a real word). i think mdb is to mages is like physical attack damage to melee while something like 20 wind edb increases wind spell damage 20%, making it MUCH better unless at really low levels. ...i THINK. though i may have this backwards and/or is completely wrong. just make sure to wait for expert before getting new stuff. edit: if i'm right, what i mean is just that 20 relevant edb>20 mdb. mdb still very important and applies to all kinds of spell damage This post has been edited by queriel: Mar 6 2012, 02:11
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Mar 6 2012, 02:09
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LangTuTaiHoa
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QUOTE(eramosat @ Mar 6 2012, 07:02)  I am starting my exploration of maging...level 130 attained with arcane focus just recently.
I am going hunting for better gear, with a focus for now on elemental spells and MDB. MDB is still the most important stat, right?
Recent patch shows a rising of new focus staffs. From those who used, 20-25%+ mana conservation can really help if you're constantly low on mana. But if you never have to use all your mana pots then MDB is still very important.
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Mar 6 2012, 03:00
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eramosat
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QUOTE if i'm not mistaken, edb is better than mdb because it increases damage multiplicatively (quite new to english so not sure at all if that was a real word). i think mdb is to mages is like physical attack damage to melee while something like 20 wind edb increases wind spell damage 20%, making it MUCH better unless at really low levels.
"multiplicatively" is a word in my dictionary. That is, I understand what you mean...therefor, it's a word! I too am not sure if EDB > MDB. I will await more advice and do my math research in the wiki. QUOTE Recent patch shows a rising of new focus staffs. From those who used, 20-25%+ mana conservation can really help if you're constantly low on mana. But if you never have to use all your mana pots then MDB is still very important.
I'm dumb, so saying "rise of new Focus staffs" means I have to go look at a Focus staff to see what it does best, and the patch notes for the details. :-) And of course I have no Focus staff right now to check...do they maximize MAB? As for using all the mana pots...well, I know when I am tempting running out, and when it's easy. I just don't know what stat increase improves the situation fastest... I also know that asking for the single most important staff stat is not a black & white question, just looking for the angles.
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