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post Dec 28 2011, 19:59
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Yes, it would. Which would unfortunately bring you back to square one. You basically need the whole set balanced.
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post Dec 28 2011, 20:03
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Not sure if you can make a universally accurate item score, too many stats to juggle. Power varies depending on player's other gear, attributes, etc which're different for everyone (which is why I use the spreadsheet). The legendary is slightly better than this for my elec damage, but not enough to be noticable (-247 base damage, +164% bonus damage, final bonus: +47). Other elements suffer more so. YMMV.

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post Dec 29 2011, 00:33
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post Dec 29 2011, 02:03
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whole lot of text that is hard to care about here
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post Dec 29 2011, 07:10
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I find the best way to deal with post-patch depression is to just take a break >_> (Or find a rare item. That usually works too.)
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post Dec 29 2011, 10:24
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Hey guys
There was a limitation of having 1000 eq which shown at equipment page, after last update I can find it nowhere, is the limitation removed?
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post Dec 29 2011, 10:26
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QUOTE(Loli connnnn @ Dec 29 2011, 08:24) *

Hey guys
There was a limitation of having 1000 eq which shown at equipment page, after last update I can find it nowhere, is the limitation removed?


nope, i hit it again the other day.
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post Dec 29 2011, 10:49
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QUOTE(4EverLost @ Dec 29 2011, 16:26) *

nope, i hit it again the other day.

Ahha.. that's mean the limitation is still there but we can't check it....
maybe we should inform Tenboro about this (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Dec 29 2011, 11:01
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I'm sure he knows, it's just one of those incomplete features that we have to deal with for a bit
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post Dec 29 2011, 11:01
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QUOTE(Loli connnnn @ Dec 29 2011, 09:49) *

Ahha.. that's mean the limitation is still there but we can't check it....
maybe we should inform Tenboro about this (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)


I think he knows, many people mentioned it in the release notes thread.
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post Dec 29 2011, 11:16
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QUOTE(skillchip @ Dec 29 2011, 17:01) *

I'm sure he knows, it's just one of those incomplete features that we have to deal with for a bit



QUOTE(wr4st3r @ Dec 29 2011, 17:01) *

I think he knows, many people mentioned it in the release notes thread.

Ahah... I see, thanks guys (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Dec 29 2011, 12:02
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seens like I will need to mage-style since melee are not happy a long time ago x_x

what suffixes are best for equips to mage, seens like phase > gossamer > cotton ?

i should choose ebony for elementals, katalox for dark/holy as I understood , right ? >.< ty
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post Dec 29 2011, 12:21
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QUOTE(~Nanodesuyo @ Dec 29 2011, 11:02) *

seens like I will need to mage-style since melee are not happy a long time ago x_x

what suffixes are best for equips to mage, seens like phase > gossamer > cotton ?

i should choose ebony for elementals, katalox for dark/holy as I understood , right ? >.< ty


Not to sound like a lazy-dick or anything, but go back just 2 pages and there's tons of info on staves and maging - I asked as well. :>

As for the equip, it's like you said, Phase is the best (also no burden/interference) and the rarest, so unless it's not that good, prepare to spend lots of credits in auctions.
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post Dec 29 2011, 12:24
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Has anyone fought FSM with melee since the latest patch? It used to take me 6-7 Infusions of Divinity, a Mana Potion or two and a load of Scrolls of Swiftness for me to whack it to death on Normal with a mace. I usually used Spirit Attack to finish it off as well. How hard is FSM now after the patch? I imagine that Shattering Strike will be useless and Spirit Mode won't last the whole fight, so can I still kill FSM in a relatively timely manner?

Also, what spells are recommended for FSM aside from Silence, which I already use? I usually just Silence him and proceed to smash face.
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post Dec 29 2011, 12:45
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QUOTE(wr4st3r @ Dec 29 2011, 08:21) *

Not to sound like a lazy-dick or anything, but go back just 2 pages and there's tons of info on staves and maging - I asked as well. :>

As for the equip, it's like you said, Phase is the best (also no burden/interference) and the rarest, so unless it's not that good, prepare to spend lots of credits in auctions.


Sorry, I don't wanted to mean like a lazy one too ;3 and don't worry, you are not a lazy-dick or anything for saying that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I've read the topics you posted, just got doubts about the suffixes, but I think it's best if I choose my best options for my game style.

Will test mage battles later, trying to up some proficiences. Any better doubts I will ask again. Thanks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Dec 29 2011, 12:56
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QUOTE(cheesey @ Dec 29 2011, 11:24) *

Has anyone fought FSM with melee since the latest patch? It used to take me 6-7 Infusions of Divinity, a Mana Potion or two and a load of Scrolls of Swiftness for me to whack it to death on Normal with a mace. I usually used Spirit Attack to finish it off as well. How hard is FSM now after the patch? I imagine that Shattering Strike will be useless and Spirit Mode won't last the whole fight, so can I still kill FSM in a relatively timely manner?

Also, what spells are recommended for FSM aside from Silence, which I already use? I usually just Silence him and proceed to smash face.


I did it yesterday on Heroic, no infusion and a ethereal mace bad base damage.

For non-endgamers like you and me I don't really think it changed that much, you still Silence+Nerf FSM and bash him to oblivion.
This because as a rule of thumb, at lower levels one'd put his extra points in Health and Magic tank first, rather than in Spirit Tank and Overcharge, so the nerf bat hits us lighter than, say, someone who's level 300 and had like Overcharge maxed.

Along those, I had Slow and Poison up 100 % of the time (FSM is pretty fast and you don't want Stun to drain twice in a turn, and Poison on Heroic hits for 310 damage for 75 turns, resulting in 23000+ damage, which is like 2 or 3 hits in Spirit Stance).
Buff wise, all I had was Heartseeker (huge help), Protection and the occasional Regen II when something channeled. You may want to use a different buffset depending on your gear though.
I did use 5-6 scrolls of Swiftness+Shadows (had to make it safe since all I had left was 2 godly Manas and 1 Elixir) though when it got exagitated, but on Normal and Hard FSM doesn't hurt that much.

What really changes is the fact that you gotta make use of your Spirit Stance or your damage output will be at least 33 % lower (previous Overcharge bonus, and this values goes up if you invested in some Overcharge), so every time your Overcharge is full, activate it because you cannot generally afford to lose that much damage.
Differently from Arenas and Grindfest (ie, scenarios with lots of mobs) Spirit Stance is also way better than Shatter Strike in a boss 1 on 1, since you won't be oneshotting jack, and Spirit Stance + Stun deals more damage than + PA + Stun (even adding the damage from Shatter itself).
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post Dec 29 2011, 13:02
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QUOTE(~Nanodesuyo @ Dec 29 2011, 02:02) *

seens like I will need to mage-style since melee are not happy a long time ago x_x

what suffixes are best for equips to mage, seens like phase > gossamer > cotton ?

i should choose ebony for elementals, katalox for dark/holy as I understood , right ? >.< ty


1) Yes. You'll want to end up wearing Phase with an EDB to your damage type of choice. Phase also has no burden and high evade. For now, just wear Gossamer with the Elementalist suffix since Phase is expensive and your proficiencies probably aren't high enough to compensate for slanting yourself completely towards one damage type. Don't bother with Cotton. You might also want to consider making a Heimdall/Heaven-sent suit just for FSM.

2) Yes. If you find that your spells are missing too often, get a staff with the Focus suffix; otherwise, go with the Destruction suffix. High MDM, Magic Accuracy, and EDB. You won't really need to worry about ET for a long time so feel free to ignore the proc stat for now.

I'd also recommend maxing out Pack Rat so you can carry as many Mana Potions as possible.

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post Dec 29 2011, 13:14
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QUOTE(cheesey @ Dec 29 2011, 05:24) *

Has anyone fought FSM with melee since the latest patch? It used to take me 6-7 Infusions of Divinity, a Mana Potion or two and a load of Scrolls of Swiftness for me to whack it to death on Normal with a mace. I usually used Spirit Attack to finish it off as well. How hard is FSM now after the patch? I imagine that Shattering Strike will be useless and Spirit Mode won't last the whole fight, so can I still kill FSM in a relatively timely manner?

Also, what spells are recommended for FSM aside from Silence, which I already use? I usually just Silence him and proceed to smash face.


Dual-Wielder here, so Shatter Strike and maces don't apply, but here's how it's been for me.

Big note here: I have Spirit Shield. You (and wr4st3r) do not.

I still cast Nerf + Weaken + Poison on it as I have before for constant incremental damage, for his regular attacks to be weaker, and for my hits to be more damaging. Should I feel that he's doing a lot through his Spirit Attack & Skill and draining my SP too much, I'll switch up Weaken for Silence, but this occurs very rarely. I don't have any AP invested in Slow... so yeah.

On my side, I cast Haste, Regen and Heartseeker. Spirit Shield is up via Innate Arcana, and since it's only 1 enemy, I don't bother waiting till I get Channelling for Heartseeker. Regen is enough for me, but there's always the occasional Cure that's cast. When Overcharge is full, I use Iris Strike... which I suppose does enough damage to offset the decrease in damage I normally did through regular attacks in the last patch. I'm careful on my use of Spirit Mode due to me being vulnerable to those AP draining attacks, but if I see a good chance to use it, I will. (This is generally when FSM still has all the debuffs + PA & Stun while I have all of my buffs on, as well FSM having low SP due to using its Spirit Attack)

Because my supply in Infusions is low, I generally only use them when it's agitated (aka, when it's most threatening) or when I'm in Spirit Mode. Overall, not that much different. Takes only a bit more time for me. Perhaps more costly in terms of MP and Infusion, though.

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post Dec 29 2011, 13:23
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QUOTE(n125 @ Dec 29 2011, 09:02) *

1) Yes. You'll want to end up wearing Phase with an EDB to your damage type of choice. Phase also has no burden and high evade. For now, just wear Gossamer with the Elementalist suffix since Phase is expensive and your proficiencies probably aren't high enough to compensate for slanting yourself completely towards one damage type. Don't bother with Cotton. You might also want to consider making a Heimdall/Heaven-sent suit just for FSM.

2) Yes. If you find that your spells are missing too often, get a staff with the Focus suffix; otherwise, go with the Destruction suffix. High MDM, Magic Accuracy, and EDB. You won't really need to worry about ET for a long time so feel free to ignore the proc stat for now.

I'd also recommend maxing out Pack Rat so you can carry as many Mana Potions as possible.


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Thank you very much about the suffix help (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) will note it.

About pack rat, not a problem xD

will only finish my arenas here, and start training prof. tyvm =3
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post Dec 29 2011, 13:28
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QUOTE(~Nanodesuyo @ Dec 29 2011, 19:23) *

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Thank you very much about the suffix help (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) will note it.

About pack rat, not a problem xD

will only finish my arenas here, and start training prof. tyvm =3


You don't need to train your prof. Just re-allocate your attributes, get suitable focus ebony staff + elementalist clothes, and start spamming spells.
Your prof. will skyrocket naturally.
Also, continue to train on adept learner/ability boost till 120/40.
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