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post Oct 20 2017, 18:42
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Oct 20 2017, 16:45) *

Yesterday I did a quick-round down of common monsters. Updated that info from 1,770 monsters to 5,913.
We have so many Celestials... Why exactly people like them?


Because they hurt like hell at a fast rate and because people go "LOLOLOL we need physical mitigation, fuck magical mitigation".
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post Oct 20 2017, 18:47
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QUOTE(as013 @ Oct 20 2017, 19:35) *
Should we do a DieFest once in a while?

Done xD
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If you are wondering why hp/mp/sp and other things are looking that bad and what that "save" button is doing - they are leftovers from my "log-analytic" script. It is not ready yet (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
And if you are wondering why Monsterbation is telling me that I got stuff while I was actually dead - then... I don't know... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Oct 20 2017, 20:27
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The HV Chart script show some crazy charts on pre-0.82 equipments (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Oct 20 2017, 20:31
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The HV Chart script show some crazy charts on pre-0.82 equipments (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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it reminds me of Nyquist plots. however, probably a matter of buffer overflow? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Oct 20 2017, 20:37
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their stats are so low that the dots get out of the screen, and the lines connecting them do it too (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
On a different matter, does nobody buys BoD anymore?
Or they simply go to WTS?

Edit: i should have updated SmartSearch (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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post Oct 20 2017, 21:01
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their stats are so low that the dots get out of the screen, and the lines connecting them do it too (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

i was just wondering what that point mid-air was, turns out it's DEX. then buffer underflow, perhaps? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Oct 20 2017, 21:54
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it reminds me of Nyquist plots. however, probably a matter of buffer overflow? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)


No. If I follow the logic of the chart, the Holy stats is beyong -100%, which makes its dot go further than the bottom of the chart. That's the same with a few other stats.
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post Oct 20 2017, 22:14
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Oct 20 2017, 21:54) *

No. If I follow the logic of the chart, the Holy stats is beyong -100%, which makes its dot go further than the bottom of the chart. That's the same with a few other stats.

underflow then (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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post Oct 20 2017, 23:03
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Yeah just what decondelite said. One or two warding pieces can really help if you aren't high level. Also as players get more experienced they will kill the celestials first because they know they are the biggest threat.

Fatal, does your list count the monster species by number of unique names, or number of appearances? I had thought the game might balance out the monster species you encounter somewhat. (So if there are less avions, the same avions could show up more often).

Waifu Maniac, that's why try to avoid using spirit shield unless I have to. Too much sp waste. Spark is okay because in theory you should not spark too often, and I don't. So the mana cost to cast spark manually for me is okay. I can't afford IA anyway.
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post Oct 20 2017, 23:09
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Oct 21 2017, 00:03) *

Fatal, does your list count the monster species by number of unique names, or number of appearances? I had thought the game might balance out the monster species you encounter somewhat. (So if there are less avions, the same avions could show up more often).

By number of appearances only. Just pure "how many of each type you will see per xxx enemies".
Tomorrow I will do an extra run and will check appearance of monsters per rounds. Also, I will collect names too, just for an extra data (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Oct 20 2017, 23:16
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If your data is by number of appearances, then there's a good chance it is the same going by names. I guess the game doesn't balance them out after all.

But if the game doesn't balance it out, then why did I feel like, at low beginner level (50) the monster population was balanced? Because I would imagine most beginners don't make arthropod or giant, after all who like spider? I thought beginners would make celestial and human, like I did.
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post Oct 21 2017, 00:34
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Dude,
how often do you need to burn mana elixir when maging?
I feel like I'm consuming too much of them. (3 lix at 75 round nightmare)


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post Oct 21 2017, 00:52
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QUOTE(clarkiest @ Oct 21 2017, 00:34) *

Dude,
how often do you need to burn mana elixir when maging?
I feel like I'm consuming too much of them. (3 lix at 75 round nightmare)

Dark maging?
Dark and holy have very high mana cost unfortunately (and at your level is even worse).
Aether shards help.
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post Oct 21 2017, 01:18
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Oct 21 2017, 00:52) *
Dark maging?
Dark and holy have very high mana cost unfortunately (and at your level is even worse).
Aether shards help.

Aw, shuck! Forgot to consider spells' mana cost before choosing element.
It seems, the only way to for dark/holy to only spend so much mana is to aim for 1 prof factor, eh?

thanks for the answer.
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post Oct 21 2017, 01:45
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Oct 20 2017, 14:16) *

If your data is by number of appearances, then there's a good chance it is the same going by names. I guess the game doesn't balance them out after all.

But if the game doesn't balance it out, then why did I feel like, at low beginner level (50) the monster population was balanced? Because I would imagine most beginners don't make arthropod or giant, after all who like spider? I thought beginners would make celestial and human, like I did.


My first thirteen monsters were one of each species. I'll decide what to make #14 when I get to making it.

I've also noticed that there is at least one person who has several arthropods, each named after an operating system. In addition to spiders, you also have all the rest of the arthropods that exist, by the way. Some people like bugs and crabs and stuff.

There are lots of reasons why people might make one thing over another though. If they want to make all their weeaboo waifu harem, lots of humanoids, celestials, and demons sure. If they're furries, beasts, reptiles, avions, and dragons probably are more appealing. Some people like mecha and bugs and zombies and stuff due to being "cool." The undead I made was "Ghost of the English Language." You can get really creative with all the options.
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post Oct 21 2017, 02:06
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Even with prof perk, fully forged staff and level 50 prof boot, my prof factor is only 0.647. 14 more to 0.68. So it finally comes down to base prof. My base prof is currently 430, so 17 under my level. What strategy should I take to finally make my mage build playable? Wait a little more until I get everything forged to 10 then start spamming fests? Spamming IW now?
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post Oct 21 2017, 02:16
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post Oct 21 2017, 02:20
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QUOTE(as013 @ Oct 20 2017, 21:06) *

Even with prof perk, fully forged staff and level 50 prof boot, my prof factor is only 0.647. 14 more to 0.68. So it finally comes down to base prof. My base prof is currently 430, so 17 under my level. What strategy should I take to finally make my mage build playable? Wait a little more until I get everything forged to 10 then start spamming fests? Spamming IW now?

Adept Learner 300 and Cybernetic Implants?
Assimilator 25?
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QUOTE(reality_marble @ Oct 21 2017, 02:16) *

Brute
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Just the way I prefer lol. Brute force always works

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Adept Learner 300 and Cybernetic Implants?
Assimilator 25?


Maybe I should start training Adept Learner. I left it at 120. Assimilator seems much more expensive compared to AL

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Maybe I should start training Adept Learner. I left it at 120. Assimilator seems much more expensive compared to AL

Adept Learner costs, what, 30k per level at 250? Assimilator is just too damn expensive. I still put zero on it because I am (⁄ ⁄•⁄ω⁄•⁄ ⁄) was a dumbass and didn't understood that the 1% extra drop chance is based on the base amount, not actually 50% drop chance at scavenger max (*ノ▽ノ) so I didn't put anything on that saving money back then. Afterwards, 100% for AL.

I am training elemental by casting once (∩ᄑ_ᄑ)⊃━☆゚*・。*・:≡( ε: ) per round over the last week and it is 1.07 ratio already... Reaching 1.04 - 1,05 of level is kinda fast and it went growing slowly after that. if you started casting every single round (ノ°∀°)ノ⌒・*:.。. .。.:*・゜゚・*☆ every single round ╰( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° )つ──☆*:・゚ every single round you would reach 450 by the end of the week?



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