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is this means i should choose find some good gears not get IA III and active SP shield on it ?

Dunno, I only have two slots with Haste and Shadow Veil and never had any particular problem with mana.
Pack Rat is far more useful for a mage, IMO.

Which is better: Haste or Protection? I'm currently experimenting with using the three best spells in my 5 IA slots so I regen more mana with minimal impact to how much more I need to heal. Shadow Veil and Spirit Shield are musts. I've gotten to the point where if my total IA cost is 1.2, I actually end up regaining one mana point per turn. I'm curious to see how many mana potions need to be consumed with less IA spells active (presuming they're the top 3).

Protection is good if you got good mitigation equipment to start with, but haste has offensive advantages as well, apart from decreasing damage taken by making you faster (and thereby decreasing enemy attacks made per round), since your debuffs, including stuns, will last longer comparatively.
Haste is also somewhat cheaper in mana/turn, something that shouldn't be forgotten.

It also depends on how fast you can kill the monsters. If you can kill most of them with one hit, you need to hit faster. If it takes several rounds to kill them all, you're going to get hit multiple times anyway so you want to take as little damage as possible.

I've tried using haste instead of protection before and found myself healing more often than when using protection. But that could have been just me.

If you're a cloth user protection is going to be worthless anyway.

Dunno, I only have two slots with Haste and Shadow Veil and never had any particular problem with mana.
Pack Rat is far more useful for a mage, IMO.

woooo you 're so great >_<

we have same character level but you never worry about it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) mana problem puzzle me everyday T_T

i got fully MANA tank have 2000+ points but doing BT arena still can't get smooth play experience

using Holy/Dark combo style the mana really goes fast and the gem doesn't drop too much ... bad luck (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

about Pack Rat i already take 5 slots from trainer ( usually take all 13 GOD mana with me )

so i thought get IA III make free SP shield , it can save a channeling to make a free attack chance

on the other hand , i was trying ET the single monster but it's hard to find a good host the mobs too dangerous for me T_T



today

when i reach the final round it's only 1 mana potion left in my inventory the tree and girls still in there

first i feel despair ... but after five minutes it's gone ... i can't believe ET the trees was so easy (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

it never hit me and the sp shield protect so well i almost use ET to kill the trees

after the trees dead i got enough mana to cast soul magic and kill the girls even i not use the last mana potion

final round goes ET maybe a good idea if other player have same problem try this way out i think it's good *(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)*

When I do T&T on BT I usually use up all my potions too, I'd say it's normal for a Dark/Holy mage.
If you're really having problems with mana running out too soon, you should consider ETing during the first rounds; latter rounds is where you'll consume most of your mana, using ET at the beginning is quick, easy and usually less dangerous (less enemies = less chance to get hit = less chance to die or take too damage, To Kill a God being the notable exception).
Ballistic9 did say that IA3 can help saving a lot of mana, though.
Keep in mind that having Spirit Shield on auto-cast means that once you go below 10% mana, you're out in the cold and anything can kill you (and on BT they will kill you), unless you spend some extra Channelings to cast it yourself.

Edit: oh, and if you're having problems with taking too much damage, cast Haste and then use a Scroll of Swiftness.
I'm 90% sure they stack (meaning you get a double speed boost).

This post has been edited by (Cheater) Tiap: Dec 17 2011, 14:24

it's about "anticipation ET" right ?

like T&T the first 1-56:4 rounds it's only 4 mobs show up in battle list

i can understand it

but after the combo it's less chance to find a mob still have enough HP can endure the ET damage

i fear agitated mobs , for these days i am not using anticipation style yet , usually i wait a random mob resist my spell and i doing ET on it

the damage side i will take your advice (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) try out with Scroll of Swiftness

usually i use some shadows to buff evade chance it's not very good i got major damage from agitated mobs T_T

Is there an equipment stats template (other then having to repeatedly refer to EHWiki) readily available whereby we can easily plug in the data & compare our own equipment against its' respective class/stats maximum value?

How do we determine why some equipment of the same class/type are considered "gems", but others are considered "less than appreciated".

This post has been edited by cyberwaveIT: Dec 17 2011, 17:57

Edit: oh, and if you're having problems with taking too much damage, cast Haste and then use a Scroll of Swiftness.

I tried to avoid taking too much damage by adjusting the spell I use.
Following Ragnarok, it seems i can avoid the second wave of attacks by casting purge instead of banish.
Though purge deals less damage, avoiding the second attack means I can cast another pestilence and kill off most monsters, thus taking less damage.
I am not sure if it applies to everyone though, since it's heavily dependent on your agility.

Is there an equipment stats template (other then having to repeatedly refer to EHWiki) readily available whereby we can easily plug in the data & compare our own equipment against its' respective class/stats maximum value?

How do we determine why some equipment of the same class/type are considered "gems", but others are considered "less than appreciated".

I need to remind that all maximum values (if available) should be observed values only, unless the real values have been mentioned by Tenb.
The other problem is that some equipment's values can be inaccurate because of their rarity.

I tried to avoid taking too much damage by adjusting the spell I use.
Following Ragnarok, it seems i can avoid the second wave of attacks by casting purge instead of banish.
Though purge deals less damage, avoiding the second attack means I can cast another pestilence and kill off most monsters, thus taking less damage.
I am not sure if it applies to everyone though, since it's heavily dependent on your agility.

Ragnarok has a slower action speed than Pestilence, though; some enemies manage to double-hit me after a Ragnarok sometimes (204 Action Speed).
I usually go Pestilence → Purge [→ Pestilence] (mainly because hitting alt+1 and alt+2 is faster than using the quickbar - yes, I'm that lazy), and use Ragnarok only when necessary (truckload of enemies, no Haste/Regen/Spark of Life, need to minimize the chance of getting raped on the first round, etc).

don't you ever try casting purge then Ragnarok on coalesced mana then pick off whats left?

or cast MM to get coalesced mana then cast your attack spells?

Tried both, but the additional mana I need to cure myself after the first round(s) (apparently Blunted Attack really does help in keeping the damage down) usually negates the possible benefits
Maybe I should raise STR (level-40 right now) and try to get a little sturdier, though I doubt that will help too much

Tried both, but the additional mana I need to cure myself after the first round(s) (apparently Blunted Attack really does help in keeping the damage down) usually negates the possible benefits
Maybe I should raise STR (level-40 right now) and try to get a little sturdier, though I doubt that will help too much

your str is only at 40? mine is 340

No, I meant -40+level = 234 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
I'll bring it to 254, let's see how it goes.

Is anyone still using +10 soulstones when fighting? If so where are you fighting and what kind of damage can you do.

So, right now I am absolutely idle ingame, saving hath for the last aura (white) and IA3. I wonder if this might be the right time to reset some stats and re-roll mage spec?



This post has been edited by MiAla: Dec 18 2011, 04:32

So, right now I am absolutely idle ingame, saving hath for the last aura (white) and IA3. I wonder if this might be the right time to reset some stats and re-roll mage spec?

ok you have 39/1000 equipment slots? Just WOW

I don't think you need to move your stats around just so you can play mage, you can just add more to int/wis as you level. It wouldn't take you very long to max your Magic proficiency, but Cloth & Staff could take longer unless you want to try using a staff for melee. If you want to mage for a while you may want to take AP out of overcharge and use those points in spells.

Thought I had a question then realized it was stupid. But just to let everyone know how stupid, here it is.

Duration = base_duration * (1 + additional_AP / 4) * (1 + prof / 100)

Was wondering about the additional ap. Wasn't sure what was meant by it so I was going to ask if it was any unused additional ap. Then realized that the buffs or debuffs usually have room for 5 ap in them.

Not that I really needed to look all this up (my proficiencies aren't that high yet). Was just curious as to how my heavy armor was bringing down my buff duration. I figure for haste it brought it down about 5. If it was higher, I might have switched to light armor to save some mana.

Oh, I think I do have a question. (not that it matters again for me) but for the tree and the sisters, when they buff each other what are those durations?

Edit: Was looking up burden. Doing a search on the wiki yields action speed, but doesn't exactly say how burden affects action speed. Checked the external link though and it says every point above 20 brings it down by one. It does say its outdated and I'm in a battle right now but that doesn't sound right. Anyone?

This post has been edited by smilejb: Dec 18 2011, 06:31

Ragnarok has a slower action speed than Pestilence, though; some enemies manage to double-hit me after a Ragnarok sometimes (204 Action Speed).
I usually go Pestilence → Purge [→ Pestilence] (mainly because hitting alt+1 and alt+2 is faster than using the quickbar - yes, I'm that lazy), and use Ragnarok only when necessary (truckload of enemies, no Haste/Regen/Spark of Life, need to minimize the chance of getting raped on the first round, etc).

I only use Ragnarok when I was playing x10 difficulty. It seems to me that 100% stat proc is more important than those additional damage.

don't you ever try casting purge then Ragnarok on coalesced mana then pick off whats left?

or cast MM to get coalesced mana then cast your attack spells?

Somehow I thought casting purge first may not work because of low action speed, then I remembered I also can't wipe out anything with Ragnarok, so the sitation's the same.
Should try that later.

Oh, I think I do have a question. (not that it matters again for me) but for the tree and the sisters, when they buff each other what are those durations?

Infinite duration.

Edit: Was looking up burden. Doing a search on the wiki yields action speed, but doesn't exactly say how burden affects action speed. Checked the external link though and it says every point above 20 brings it down by one. It does say its outdated and I'm in a battle right now but that doesn't sound right. Anyone?

AFAIK that sentence's not outdated.

This post has been edited by varst: Dec 18 2011, 06:37

ok you have 39/1000 equipment slots? Just WOW

I don't think you need to move your stats around just so you can play mage, you can just add more to int/wis as you level. It wouldn't take you very long to max your Magic proficiency, but Cloth & Staff could take longer unless you want to try using a staff for melee. If you want to mage for a while you may want to take AP out of overcharge and use those points in spells.

Actually I wonder if switching to a mage at my point would be a wise idea, DPS- and farm-wise. Right now I am capable of clearing any non-legendary arena on IWBTH with ease but it takes hell of a time.