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Oct 14 2017, 19:03
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(ALL_MIGHT @ Oct 14 2017, 18:53)  Could someone explain it how can willow be best for wind when damage of it is lowest. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Without proper prefix, it does have a bit of EDB but it's lower than the non-suffix/prefix EDB of Redwood. With prefix, it's good enough. Other elements don't have that little boost from the non-prefixed staff, and only get some from the prefix. But Willow shines in counter resist, which Redwood lack. That totally makes up for the lower EDB. This post has been edited by DJNoni: Oct 14 2017, 19:10
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Oct 14 2017, 19:06
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(reality_marble @ Oct 14 2017, 13:18) 
Wiki prof calculation, those 5 steps, have this: step 5: [Level 500 Prof factor] = [Prof with Perk] / 500 But prof_factor = (effective_proficiency - monsterlevel) / monsterlevel So shouldn't the [Level 500 Prof factor] calculation be = [ProfwithPerk-500]/500 (•ิ_•ิ)?
I wrote those steps. Prof factor, the way we talk about it on the forum, is like: 0.68 for cold. That means effective proficiency is 1.68 times your level. We subtract the 1 for some reason. But hey, that's how it's done here. Thus: you're right in your formula, but then you need to substract 1. And then, mathematically, you get my formula.
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Oct 14 2017, 19:37
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KitsuneAbby
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f4tal, you messed up with your quotes.
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Oct 14 2017, 19:56
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Cryosite
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Oct 14 2017, 10:06)  I wrote those steps.
Prof factor, the way we talk about it on the forum, is like: 0.68 for cold. That means effective proficiency is 1.68 times your level. We subtract the 1 for some reason. But hey, that's how it's done here.
Thus: you're right in your formula, but then you need to substract 1. And then, mathematically, you get my formula.
The -1 is, to my understanding, to match the format of the resists it is designed to counter. 0% resist vs 0% counter resist is the same as 100% vs 100%. You can call your "default" either, as long as you do it the same for both sides. Resistance is displayed as 0% base, but the formula creates counter resist formatted to 100%. It's kind of the difference between saying you have 150% damage when you crit vs +50%.
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Oct 14 2017, 20:13
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f4tal
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Oct 14 2017, 20:37)  f4tal, you messed up with your quotes.
Of course I did, because I am idiot. Sorry, decondelite, it was reality_marble's quote, not yours. No hard feelings (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Oct 14 2017, 20:17
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 18-January 07

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speaking of which, i developed a spreadsheet for prof factor calculation. just saying (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/lurk.gif)
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Oct 14 2017, 21:08
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reality_marble
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QUOTE(ALL_MIGHT @ Oct 14 2017, 13:53)  Could someone send me the link of wiki of this info. As i have been searching but failed to find it anywhere. :heh:
Why would you bother about Holy/Dark damage anyway (-_-;)・・・ You are not o(>< )o thinking of ever NOT being a Wind user, right? Σ(▼□▼メ) QUOTE(DJNoni @ Oct 14 2017, 14:06)  I wrote those steps. Prof factor, the way we talk about it on the forum, is like: 0.68 for cold. That means effective proficiency is 1.68 times your level. We subtract the 1 for some reason. But hey, that's how it's done here. Thus: you're right in your formula, but then you need to substract 1. And then, mathematically, you get my formula. Thanks :D Prof_factor = (effective_proficiency - monsterlevel) / monsterlevel = effective_proficiency/500 - 500/500 = [Step 5 result] - 1 __φ(◎◎ヘ) :D :D :D
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Oct 14 2017, 21:17
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Ass Spanker
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 25-July 12

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Oct 14 2017, 21:21
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KitsuneAbby
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(as013 @ Oct 14 2017, 21:17)  Second one, no hesitation.
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Oct 14 2017, 21:25
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Ass Spanker
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Oct 14 2017, 21:21)  Second one, no hesitation.
Why? I'm looking at the base values only. IW and forge are not considered.
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Oct 14 2017, 21:25
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Noni
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QUOTE(as013 @ Oct 14 2017, 21:17)  new one is better. But not by much, because of cast speed.
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Oct 14 2017, 22:00
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reality_marble
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Oct 14 2017, 15:17)  speaking of which, i developed a spreadsheet for prof factor calculation. just saying :lurk:
( ´ ω ` ) Will of use :D
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Oct 14 2017, 22:12
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Oct 14 2017, 21:25)  new one is better. But not by much, because of cast speed.
is 0.18 difference out of a 3.5 roll really worth worse stats in... uh... everything? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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Oct 14 2017, 23:24
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Slobber
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436 robe is strictly superior in every defensive aspect 500 robe is strictly superior in every offensive aspect
choose based on what you feel your mage strat is lacking since you must remember the best defense is a good offense. but the reverse is also true.
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Oct 15 2017, 00:20
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kukrak
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DJNon, f4tal & BlueWaterSplash I meant if the bigger block chance is worth more, after I upgrade it a little, than the a bit better stats of my current one, except the worse block (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) but I guess I'm gonna wait out until I am at the lvl to fuse it and I'll decide by then, still got plenty of time before that. Most likely gonna fuse it if I have shards to do so I guess. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Oct 15 2017, 02:10
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clarkiest
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Dude, how much credit I must prepare if I want to start playing mage So that I can blast PFUDOR DwD in ~20 minutes (2 turn per second)?
If I have some of that credit I might as well forego getting better 1H equipments & mats.
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Oct 15 2017, 04:17
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reality_marble
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QUOTE(reality_marble @ Oct 14 2017, 17:00)  ( ´ ω ` ) Will of use :D
Scremaz :D In the mage prof calculator the proof perk variable isn't being counted (〃 ̄ω ̄〃ゞ On the "Simulation" page, no difference between Yes/No This post has been edited by reality_marble: Oct 15 2017, 06:18
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Oct 15 2017, 04:31
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CPUAMD
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QUOTE(clarkiest @ Oct 15 2017, 09:10)  Dude, how much credit I must prepare if I want to start playing mage
at least 20~30M
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Oct 15 2017, 05:49
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clarkiest
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QUOTE(Goldage @ Oct 15 2017, 04:31)  at least 20~30M
30M and we can do PF DwD? Hmmm, can do. thanks!
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Oct 15 2017, 06:09
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piyin
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 4-February 09

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Question: https://ehwiki.org/wiki/File:Skill_Editor.PNGWhat does the "Special" part is for? been years since i wanted to do this question, but just until today i remebered.
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